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PrintableHarlepolis said: ThreadBare said: I'm laughing at this thread's predominantly negative vibe. "She's too happy!!!"
I think India's a welcome change from the barrage of negative, determined-to-be-as-hard-as-a-man-while-being-a-tramp offerings we typically get from black songstresses topping the charts. She's got great singing skills, and really connects well with her "look on the bright side" routine. "Private Party" isn't a masturbation song. It's about self-esteem, taking an inventory of your state of mind and direction. As for not seeming able to connect well with people's everyday experiences or being unable to express herself honestly, I find that curious. I don't see that in her work, and ... well... we're on a site dedicated to a man who refused to publically acknowledge the death of his newborn son. I wouldn't call her a contender to the throne, in that category. Hel-lo! 
People are getting cold thats what happend. Imagine Earth Wind & Fire emerging in this day of time(with the same message they delievered) I could see how everybody hammer their craft as too "campy" or too "SUNSHINE"(funny use of term btw  ).
Not comparing the 2 by any means, but India is from that school(esp Stevie Wonder), their whole craft is based upon spirituality and positive energy, its not on their blood to take a habbit of dwelling. India is anything but SAFE. If she did want to be approved by the masses(she would've done the same shit ya'll asking - which is what basicaly 90% of what these fatherfuckers are doing to be on heavy rotation). and i repeat, then india herself shouldnt have sold the album the way she did...she set up expectations which she was not able to keep. furthermore, EWF has grit in their music...yes, they may sing about positive things but their music is so much more complex...the arragments...the melodies...theres darkness in a song like "lets groove"...theres nothing as honest as "after the love is gone" or "reasons" on india's album. to be honest, when i hear all her "dont worry/be happy" lyrics i feel like she is hiding behind all that...thats its fake. sorry, but thats who i feel. and i dont want to take away your appreciation for her...but i just cant see the similiarities with EWF... and furthermore, if the woman sings another lyric about Stevie Wonder im going to pull my own hair out...and i guess that really gets to my biggest beef with her...its the "sameness" in her lyric subject. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Harlepolis said: Hel-lo!
People are getting cold thats what happend. Imagine Earth Wind & Fire emerging in this day of time(with the same message they delievered) I could see how everybody hammer their craft as too "campy" or too "SUNSHINE"(funny use of term btw ).
Not comparing the 2 by any means, but India is from that school(esp Stevie Wonder), their whole craft is based upon spirituality and positive energy, its not on their blood to take a habbit of dwelling. India is anything but SAFE. If she did want to be approved by the masses(she would've done the same shit ya'll asking - which is what basicaly 90% of what these fatherfuckers are doing to be on heavy rotation). and i repeat, then india herself shouldnt have sold the album the way she did...she set up expectations which she was not able to keep. furthermore, EWF has grit in their music...yes, they may sing about positive things but their music is so much more complex...the arragments...the melodies...theres darkness in a song like "lets groove"...theres nothing as honest as "after the love is gone" or "reasons" on india's album. to be honest, when i hear all her "dont worry/be happy" lyrics i feel like she is hiding behind all that...thats its fake. sorry, but thats who i feel. and i dont want to take away your appreciation for her...but i just cant see the similiarities with EWF... and furthermore, if the woman sings another lyric about Stevie Wonder im going to pull my own hair out...and i guess that really gets to my biggest beef with her...its the "sameness" in her lyric subject. Neither do I I just threw their name to put an example of what I'm talking about, not comparing her to them(like I said earlier).
I guess I could see where you coming from,,,,,but good god almighty, man  We're on Prince's site, the man who's famous for hiding behind sexual songs in order to cover his pain, we're talking about a man who feels thats indecent to show your pain(The whole incident of him ripping the original 'Empty Room' apart and many other incidents being mentioned in DMSR).
So, we're not really entitled to address other artists for hiding behind their songs,,,or being fake. Becoz we support the biggest of them all. | |
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sosgemini said: Harlepolis said: Hel-lo!
People are getting cold thats what happend. Imagine Earth Wind & Fire emerging in this day of time(with the same message they delievered) I could see how everybody hammer their craft as too "campy" or too "SUNSHINE"(funny use of term btw ).
Not comparing the 2 by any means, but India is from that school(esp Stevie Wonder), their whole craft is based upon spirituality and positive energy, its not on their blood to take a habbit of dwelling. India is anything but SAFE. If she did want to be approved by the masses(she would've done the same shit ya'll asking - which is what basicaly 90% of what these fatherfuckers are doing to be on heavy rotation). and i repeat, then india herself shouldnt have sold the album the way she did...she set up expectations which she was not able to keep. furthermore, EWF has grit in their music...yes, they may sing about positive things but their music is so much more complex...the arragments...the melodies...theres darkness in a song like "lets groove"...theres nothing as honest as "after the love is gone" or "reasons" on india's album. to be honest, when i hear all her "dont worry/be happy" lyrics i feel like she is hiding behind all that...thats its fake. sorry, but thats who i feel. and i dont want to take away your appreciation for her...but i just cant see the similiarities with EWF... and furthermore, if the woman sings another lyric about Stevie Wonder im going to pull my own hair out...and i guess that really gets to my biggest beef with her...its the "sameness" in her lyric subject. When I listen to EWF or Meshell or even Prince... there’s an experience that takes place that I don’t know if I can articulate. There are textures to their music. It can be happy music but within that happiness there are layers and levels and if it’s a whole cohesive album, that’s when it truly feels like stepping into an atmosphere. It is rare but beautiful when achieved. With India, who I enjoy, I don’t always get that. And that’s okay I guess but on this album in particular, I don’t feel enough depth and range. And again, I need some bass and a good groove from time to time even if it’s a slow one. But we could use more artists like her. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Rhondab said: shorttrini said: Isn't that what masturbation is?? A celebration of self??? oh good grief. 
self.... not meaning her damn coochie.....not (a celebration of the coochie.)....that should be the title of somebody's album  ... .what's up?.i'm just being sily is all.
can ya'll think a little deeper than some nasty stuff... [Edited 8/26/06 13:48pm] | |
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Celebration of the Coochie
I could see Pink doing that ... heyyyyy Avatar | |
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Rhondab said: shorttrini said: Isn't that what masturbation is?? A celebration of self??? oh good grief.
self.... not meaning her damn coochie.....not a celebration of the coochie. can ya'll think a little deeper than some nasty stuff... | |
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SoulAlive said: Rhondab said: oh good grief.
self.... not meaning her damn coochie.....not a celebration of the coochie. can ya'll think a little deeper than some nasty stuff... I was thinking deeper. What better love is there, than the love of one's self and all of the parts that go along with it. I was not trying to be nasty. Before we can ever love anyone, we must first learn to love ourselves. This is what I think she is trying to convey in the song. Also, at the end of the day, all we have is ourselves. If talking about our genitals is nasty and taboo, could loving ourselves be considered taboo and nasty... Just a deep thought. [Edited 8/28/06 6:44am] "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: SoulAlive said: I was thinking deeper. What better love is there, than the love of one's self and all of the parts that go along with it. I was not trying to be nasty. Before we can ever love anyone, we must first learn to love ourselves. This is what I think she is trying to convey in the song. Also, at the end of the day, all we have is ourselves. If talking about our genitals is nasty and taboo, could loving ourselves be considered taboo and nasty... Just a deep thought. [Edited 8/28/06 6:44am] and a little bit too deep for me today....I know that I mentioned that she was speaking of a celebration of self and you said that "is that what masturbation is? I'm speaking of completion and you're talking about parts of the whole. I am not my gentials but they are a part of me. | |
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Rhondab said: I am not my gentials but they are a part of me. Remix! I am not my crotch I am not these lips "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Rhondab said: I am not my gentials but they are a part of me. Remix! I am not my crotch I am not these lips only if lil Jon can do the remix... | |
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SoulAlive said: 
There's Hope it doesn't cost a thing to smile you don't have to pay to laugh You better thank God for that  this is a very good song! I like it.Anyone else like it too?Yeah, I'm diggin the song, it's a good one.  RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Rhondab said: Celebration of the Coochie
I could see Pink doing that ... heyyyyy Avatar Actually they did do a remix to I Am Not My Hair even though few people have heard it... | |
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her remake of the song HEART OF THE MATTER is pretty good ... sounded really nice driving down the highway at night  [Edited 8/30/06 1:59am] | |
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utopia7 said: her remake of the song HEART OF THE MATTER is pretty good ... sounded really nice driving down the highway at night
[Edited 8/30/06 1:59am] It's good because she really did not do anything to the original. That song was a good song from the start. She just sang it like it was. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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ABeautifulOne said: Rhondab said: Celebration of the Coochie
I could see Pink doing that ... heyyyyy Avatar Actually they did do a remix to I Am Not My Hair even though few people have heard it... it was called the "celebration of the coochie"  | |
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so,what's the deal with the song "I Am Not My Hair"? I heard that the song was remixed several times,and that the version on the CD is different from the previously released single version?  why was the song reworked so many times? Did Pink really appear on an earlier version? | |
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SoulAlive said: so,what's the deal with the song "I Am Not My Hair"? I heard that the song was remixed several times,and that the version on the CD is different from the previously released single version?
why was the song reworked so many times? Did Pink really appear on an earlier version?It was orginally recorded as a duet between her and Pink.Here are some of the details behind it. The following was taken from an interview that she did with Vibe magazine: The first single from Testimony is “I Am Not My Hair”, a song that actually began as a duet with Pink and was ultimately released with India singing solo and later remixed to feature Akon who won the guest appearance over rapper Shawnna of Disturbing Tha Peace. “I actually recorded 'I Am Not My Hair' with Pink and that was the original version. It wasn’t up to me so I had to let it go. Then I did this remix with Shawnna. What she did was ridiculously dope,” remembers India. http://www.vibe.com/news/...testimony/ "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: SoulAlive said: so,what's the deal with the song "I Am Not My Hair"? I heard that the song was remixed several times,and that the version on the CD is different from the previously released single version?
why was the song reworked so many times? Did Pink really appear on an earlier version?It was orginally recorded as a duet between her and Pink.Here are some of the details behind it. The following was taken from an interview that she did with Vibe magazine: The first single from Testimony is “I Am Not My Hair”, a song that actually began as a duet with Pink and was ultimately released with India singing solo and later remixed to feature Akon who won the guest appearance over rapper Shawnna of Disturbing Tha Peace. “I actually recorded 'I Am Not My Hair' with Pink and that was the original version. It wasn’t up to me so I had to let it go. Then I did this remix with Shawnna. What she did was ridiculously dope,” remembers India. http://www.vibe.com/news/...testimony/ thanks for the info.I would have liked to have heard the version with Pink...perhaps Pink's label didn't want it released? | |
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I like the version with Pink much better. Labels always butting in. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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shorttrini said: ridiculously dope,"” remembers India.
ya know, grown folk should never use those two words together... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: shorttrini said: ridiculously dope,"” remembers India.
ya know, grown folk should never use those two words together... I know....lol, isn't that a double negative? If it is, this would be the first time that she is negative about anything.....just joking, people....just joking... "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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i'm putting "ridiculous dope" in my sig
along with "skeezer"....we should have kept that one too. | |
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AlexdeParis said: Hobbitch said: I love her to pieces and will take her 'too happy' music over 99% of the crap on the airwaves right now.
Agreed. This is a very good album. I don't think it can touch Voyage to India, but I think it's as good as her debut. Nothing she does can touch VTI, that was better than her debut and a damn shame it didn't get the proper airplay, but what else is new about the treatment of Neo Soul artists? ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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shorttrini said: Rhondab said: I didn't think that was about masturbation. its more like a celebration of self.  Isn't that what masturbation is?? A celebration of self??? Try SATISFACTION ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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Rhondab said: shorttrini said: Isn't that what masturbation is?? A celebration of self??? oh good grief.
self.... not meaning her damn coochie.....not a celebration of the coochie. can ya'll think a little deeper than some nasty stuff... However, I DO celebrate the coochie whenever one's available for a celebration.  ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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LuxuryBrown said: Rhondab said: oh good grief.
self.... not meaning her damn coochie.....not a celebration of the coochie. can ya'll think a little deeper than some nasty stuff... However, I DO celebrate the coochie whenever one's available for a celebration. That's a whole other thread "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: LuxuryBrown said: However, I DO celebrate the coochie whenever one's available for a celebration. That's a whole other thread  ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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LuxuryBrown said: AlexdeParis said: Agreed. This is a very good album. I don't think it can touch Voyage to India, but I think it's as good as her debut. Nothing she does can touch VTI, that was better than her debut and a damn shame it didn't get the proper airplay, but what else is new about the treatment of Neo Soul artists? I happen to like her debut, most of all. It was fresh sounding and not as "intentionally formulated" as the rest of her stuff. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: LuxuryBrown said: However, I DO celebrate the coochie whenever one's available for a celebration. That's a whole other thread may i have the link to that thread? | |
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