carlcranshaw said:

I don't think that's Noel Redding in the top pic - it looks a lot more like Steve Winwood



I've got to say I'm confused by the criticism of Noel here, for several reasons:

1) He was selected by Jimi Hendrix to play bass in his band. He was one third of one of the most influential bands of all time. I think he did pretty well, and people seem to enjoy the music. No-one's returning their copies of Are You Experienced?, Axis: Bold as Love or Electric Ladyland - 'can I get a refund? the bass playing's too fearful'. Show some respect to the classics, and the artistry that went into them. They are what they are because of who played on them.

2) Sure, Noel wasn't a bassist by trade, and yes, it showed. It showed for the better - the Experience broke the rules of the guitar/bass/drums combo - fuck 'in the pocket' - let's go freeform at 100mph. He was the rhythm section of that band on his own, between Mitch and Jimi's duelling. Being different and challenging is the essence of rock'n'roll.

3) What guitarist isn't jealous of Jimi Hendrix?

Anyway, a few more bass players of varying styles and ability for the list:

Billy Cox - a different style for a different Jimi

Norman Watt Roy - the Blockheads

Paul Simonon - the Clash - purely on the strength of the Guns of Brixton, and for making the bass look really fucking cool

Carole Kaye - Phil Spector, the Beach Boys, Ray Charles

Aston 'Family Man' Barrett - Bob Marley, Augustus Pablo etc etc

Cliff Burton - Metallica

theAudience said:

Whoever played bass on a lot of those Motown classics should get their props too. Those early Jackson 5, Marvin Gaye, Gladys Knight & The Pips and Temptations hits all had killer bass lines to them. Listen sometime, You'll see.

funkpill said:

Cool.

I was hoping not to have to resort to a vidcap (which I was about to do) but you saved me the trouble.

Something is better than nothing.
It is rather odd that there aren't any higher quality shots of him around.


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Rowdy said:

Nice additions! Can't believe I forgot Cox! I think Carl Cranshaw posted a picture of Carol Kaye, earlier in the thread.

Regarding the criticisms on Noel...

I realize that's subjective. I know a lot of people that liked Redding's playing. And those records are undeniable classics. But I was never crazy about his style, and a few of us were agreeing that for us, his playing wasn't the greatest. It's certainly not going out on a limb to say he wasn't a particularly gifted bass player. I think his playing was kinda stiff, which is understandble since he wasn't a bass player by trade. He certainly wasn't horrible, It added a certain sound to the proceedings, but it's also no secret that Hendrix himself was growing increasingly dissatisfied with the basslines, often overdubbing the bass himself in some cases. This was especially true by the time they were recording Electric Ladyland, and Jimi began seeking out other players like Jack Casady and Jack Bruce. It is also telling that after the Band of Gypsies dissolved, Hendrix brought back Mitch, but nixed Noel.




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theAudience said:

Didn't Robert change his name in Aamir Bayaan ?
He appeared with that name as producer on a lot of 80's albums .

paligap said:

Very true.

On Electric Ladyland he's playing bass all over the record...

Have You Ever Been (To Elecric Ladyland)
Jimi - bass

Long Hot Summer Night
Jimi - bass

Gypsy Eyes
Jimi - bass

1983 . . . (A Merman I Should Turn To Be)
Jimi - bass, percussion

House Burning Down
Jimi - bass

... (lefty)

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this is sweet.. much love for the bass player

What about this dude.....






Learned from two of Motowns great bass players BABBITT & JAMERSON.
this cat gets overlooked at times probably because of his ballads
....and lost for his work as a bass player.

StarMon said:

Michael Henderson!!!!! Koooolllll!!!!! Thanks!!!






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OHYEAH! good catch indeedz!
And dude had a great voice too .
He sang a fantatstic version of You Are My Starship on the same-titled album from Norman Connors .


( Heehaw ... did we have a hilarious thread sometime ago about the "receiver" )



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100MPH said:

Yup, he sure did!!



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paligap said:

Thanx!

Gene Simmons

ThePunisher said:

That was James Jamerson, he's up there in the first post, along with others like Bob Babbit, Carol Kaye, and Chuck Rainey, and even Michael Henderson (thanx, StarMon)...they're all present, throughout the thread...Motown is In Tha House!!!!



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Though I got Bootsy and Rodney "Skeet" Curtis, I was tryin' to find pics of other P-funk bassists like Billy "Bass" Nelson and Cordell "Boogie" Mosson...anybody got pics in their archives?




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This guy doesn't get much play.

But in terms of the 60s Rock era (on the American side of things) he led the charge for "lead bassists"...



...Tim Bogert

Both bands he most closely associated with, Vanilla Fudge & Cactus, have reformed and are currently gigging again.
(For those wondering, Beck, Bogert & Appice doesn't count. )


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theAudience said:[quote]This guy doesn't get much play.

But in terms of the 60s Rock era (on the American side of things) he led the charge for "lead bassists"...



...Tim Bogert

Both bands he most closely associated with, Vanilla Fudge & Cactus, have reformed and are currently gigging again.
(For those wondering, Beck, Bogert & Appice doesn't count. )

Aw man. Just he because was soloing just as much as Jeff pissing him off.

Don't laugh but I liked Vanilla Fudge's remake of "My World Is Empty Without You." with Jeff guesting on guitar. (This was on an 80's release.)

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I don't think that's Noel Redding in the top pic - it looks a lot more like Steve Winwood

Hi Rowdy,

That's Noel. It was at one of The Experience's first or early shows.

carlcranshaw said:

The weird thing about that pic is whoever that is...



...is holding a Danelectro Longhorn guitarlin. (check the headstock)

If it's Noel, why isn't it at least a Danelectro Longhorn bass?


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carlcranshaw said:

BB&A was soooo disappointing and was pretty much doomed from the start.

There's a footnote to this story. Two sets were played that night. The first was recorded for possible release. Before the second set began, Tim Bogert got into a fight with Jeff Beck and according to Carmine Appice, you can hear the anger when Beck played the second set. Appice also got the stage engineer to record the first four songs from the second show and he claims Beck played even better. Tim Bogert left London the next day and headed back to America.

http://www.bigozine2.com/...odbye.html
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I saw Vanilla Fudge at The Fillmore East...



...They put on a very good show.


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Don't sleep on the greatest bass players of all time.

2freaky4church1 said:

check out page one of this thread.

2freaky4church1 said:

Church??? You're A FOOL!(Funny)

theAudience said:

Dang Aud.!!!!


Very impressive

funkpill said:

See what age will get ya.


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Michael "Flea" Balzary has to be one of the (is not, the) greatest bass player of all time. I love his ultra-fast punk/funk style of playing bass. He's so damn fast and plays with such precision. He's a great bass player.



He's also an outrageously awesome show man (as you can see from the pics). Flea's awesome.

DarlingDiana said:

Ever heard of cats like James Jamerson, Stanley Clarke, Jaco Pastorius, Larry Graham, [i]Bootsy Collins[i]... ?

I'll take Bootsy, Raphael Saadiq and Lenny Kravitz.

It's all about The Bruce! Most people played, and still do play the bass as a background and standard rhythm section instrument. But Jack Bruce solos at some point in almost every song. And in Cream he used to play solos that were on par, and often better than Claptons on the guitar.