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Printablepurplecam said: Another thing that bothered me was that Outkast did songs off of Speakerboxx/Love Below in this film
 . What's the point of having a soundtrack of new music if your are going to go back and play songs off of your last CD? Since the Prince argument has come into this, we didn't hear any songs off of 1999 in Purple Rain or Around the World in a Day in Under the Cherry Moon. And the songs that were done from S/TLB were unecessary IMHO. That rubbed me the wrong way.I guess you didn't know that this movie was made in 2004. I think its a sad but safe realization that Outkast is done as a duo. http://www.ew.com/ew/repo...1_,00.html | |
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purplecam said:[quote] BananaCologne said: From Aint-It-Cool News:
Hola all. Massawyrm here. What a God damned waste of potential. No really. A God damned waste of potential. Here we have Idlewild, a film I’ve been looking forward to for quite some time now – a film so laden with talent and an intriguing premise that it got me all sorts of excited. But it’s a mess, a complete mess that fails to live up even remotely to any expectations you might have for this film. It’s not that it’s entirely terrible, but enough of it is to ruin any hopes of this being anything resembling a truly entertaining piece of film. The list of flaws in this film are great and many – but it all boils down to one core problem. The script. Easily the laziest writing I’ve seen in quite some time, Idlewild steals virtually every cliché prevalent in this kind of film and then quite literally has no clue what to do with them. The film opens up with a flashback reminiscence establishing the lifelong friendship of our two main characters Percival (Andre Benjamin – AKA Andre 3000) and Rooster (Antwan A. Patton – AKA Big Boi.) Must be important, right? Nope. Not a bit of it. Because from that point on, the two characters share about 5 minutes of screentime together. Idlewild is two separate stories that happen to take place at the same time, and have little, if anything, to do with one another. And neither of those stories is particularly new or interesting. Story one is about a talented musician who is being held back in his small town by an overbearing father that believes his son’s place is the family business. And story two is about…a talented musician…who inherits a nightclub and all the gangster trouble that comes with it. The only thing more been there/done that than the story ideas is their execution, each story beat being telegraphed long before it comes to fruition. But that’s not all – because the elements you don’t see coming, well, they’re just fucking nonsensical. Complete and total where the fuck did that come from? moments, followed by half assed implementation that almost begins to lead in an interesting direction only to veer directly back into cliché for resolution. There are entire elements to the story that end up unexplained and utterly irrelevant, no matter how important they really should be. In one case, a character is revealed to not be who they claim…only to have it turn out that another character knew all along and simply kept their mouth shut. Okay, that can be interesting. It’s even more interesting when that story comes to a head and the character who knew is confronted and claims “I can explain!” But they never do. And you’re left to scratch your head asking What the Fuck? Are you kidding me? It’s just left hanging, as if that characters motivation doesn’t actually matter. DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT’S THE THRUST OF THE WHOLE FUCKING STORY! At least it is when that little factoid is revealed. That entire plot twist hinges on that explanation. An explanation that never comes. Idlewild is chock full of bullshit like this. Dangling plot threads, cardboard characters, plot holes you could drive the Porkchop Express through, and oh yeah, Deus ex Machina. Yeah, that’s right. God even shows up. And when he does, it’s to hand a character one of the single most overused movie clichés in the history of overused movie clichés. Gee, I wonder what’s so important about a character being handed a Bible before he goes into a gunfight? You feelin’ me? Six-year-olds reading this review are smacking their foreheads over that one. Making it more bizarre is that the character in question has this incomprehensible story arc involving a flask. That he keeps on him at all times. In his breast pocket. Naw. That would be too fucking silly. But it’s a musical, right? Who needs a real, involving story when you’re making a musical? You just need thin plot threads to take you from number to number? Right? Wrong. Because for the most part, Idlewild doesn’t seem to think it’s a musical. There are several songs, but they’re all numbers performed at the club. Or at least most of them are. Despite the reality Idlewild tries to set up, it breaks its own rules by having two musical numbers that seem entirely out of place. They just happen, out of nowhere, and serve zero purpose. And to make matters worse – both sequences look like you could chop them out of the movie and put them immediately on Mtv. You know, there’s a longtime movie reviewer cliché that This movie looks exactly like a two hour music video. Most times it’s unwarranted – just a slam at the style over substance approach many filmmakers take with their films. Here, this comment is actually the case. It IS a two-hour music video. Entire sequences in this film point directly to a music video director helming it. And sure enough, that’s exactly what this is. It’s a first time feature by a guy who has been directing Outkast music videos for 10 years. Someone who got the resources to make a two-hour version. So what, right? At least the music looks like it’s going to be an original blend of modern Hip Hop with thirties era jazz. Nope. The music is almost entirely modern Hip Hop. Only the last song in the film, the one played during the credits (that you may be familiar with from the trailer) sounds like this. The rest sounds exactly like every other Outkast album ever made. Which is fine, except that when juxtaposed with a story set in the thirties it simply feels wrong. From the looks of it, this appears to be something akin to Moulin Rouge, a film out of time that blends different styles together to create a single, unique universe. But that’s not what this is. It’s a film set in the thirties with musical acts that rap. There’s no creative use of Jazz or Blues mixed into a majority of the music. Just standard, by the numbers, Outkast. And the cast, oh God, the cast. It’s amazing. And a total fucking waste. Faizon Love and Ving Rhames, two of my favorite actors working today, both do fantastic jobs…in the first fifteen minutes of the movie. Then they’re gone. Ben Vereen, a perfect choice for a musical like this if ever there was one – a man that can sing, dance and knows how to act – gets a few scenes as the drunken, overbearing father. And his performance is great, for how little they use him. How about screen legend Cicely Tyson? She appears in exactly one scene. Patty LaBelle? Half of a scene. Comedian Bruce Bruce? Half of Patty LaBelle’s half-a-scene. Bill Nunn? About thirty seconds spread out through the film. Macy Gray? One of the few characters actually around for most of the film that serves virtually no purpose at all but cackle from the background. Pretty much every actor of note or name presented in the trailer is either vastly underused or a glorified cameo. The only big name in the film that gets any love whatsoever is Terrence Howard, who turns in one really great scene before his character is transformed into a mustache-twirling villain with zero depth. And when you begin to think about how lame this film is compared to what it could have been with this concept, this cast and the musical talent behind it – well, it doesn’t live up to anything it promises to be. I mean, come on, you get Patty LaBelle in your film…as a singer…and we can’t even get a Patty LaBelle version of an old Jazz classic, or at least something that sounds like one? But the movie isn’t a complete wasteland. Both Andre Benjamin and Paula Patton turn in believable performances, despite just how clichéd and predictable their story and dialog is. And while each of the above named cameos doesn’t garner the screentime or role they deserve, each and every one of them turns in a performance of note. There isn’t a weak link in that bunch. And each of them manages to elevate their poorly drawn characters into memorable roles through the force of their talent alone. I mean, Jesus, Cicely Tyson alone delivers a performance that feels as if she’s been enduring an entire films worth of pathos, and makes you feel it in a few short lines. And while Writer/Director Bryan Barber may have no sense of story whatsoever, the guy sure knows what to do with a camera. Sections of this film are absolutely gorgeous, and often quite inventive. His camera work alone makes me want to go back and check out his music videos. Which of course only adds to further frustration with the film. The guy clearly isn’t a worthless director. He got great performances and stunning shots. If only he knew how to tell a story. Then he’d be someone to watch. Give this guy a great script and a producer that makes him stick to it, and he could make for one hell of a director. Just keep him the hell away from the editing room – because when the story isn’t being nonsensical, the editing sure is. All in all, I cannot recommend this film at all. If you’re into Outkast, check out the soundtrack. But only check this out if you set your expectations incredibly low. Probably the biggest waste of two hours I’ve spent this week, and frankly, I haven’t done shit this week. At all. Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em. I know I will. - Massawyrm Ya gotta admit that's a pretty damned scathing review.  "TELL IT LIKE IT IS MAN! DON'T HOLD BACK!" 
Still, it ain't all doom 'n' gloom - Harry Knowles apparently liked it, although even he thought it was a mess but "loved the mess" regardless. Not sure what that says about the movie, but hey:  this sounds familiar... Review by Robert Firsching What doesn't matter about this semi-autobiographical musical drama is that it is pretentious, misogynistic, ludicrous, and dumb. What does matter is that it is very entertaining and features an absolutely terrific musical score, one of the few to cop both an Oscar and a Grammy. Prince is the star and performs most of the songs, but the film's highlight is a delightful comic performance by Morris Day (whose group, The Time, does "Jungle Love" and "The Bird") as Prince's rival. Day steals every scene in which he appears with a cackling, tongue-in-cheek hubris that is a perfect antidote to Prince's pompous self-importance. Basically a fast-moving, carefully crafted music video, Purple Rain is fun despite its flaws. - allmovie.com So why is Prince getting four stars for Purple Rain when the critics are saying similar things about both films? Good musical numbers, weak plot. I take it is because the music in Purple Rain is so good. I have not seen the film yet, however based on the mixed reviews I am reading, this film has "cult classic" written all over it. Like The Wiz, it may have a modest opening at the box office, but may develop its own cult following on video in the years to come. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: purplecam said: Another thing that bothered me was that Outkast did songs off of Speakerboxx/Love Below in this film
. What's the point of having a soundtrack of new music if your are going to go back and play songs off of your last CD? Since the Prince argument has come into this, we didn't hear any songs off of 1999 in Purple Rain or Around the World in a Day in Under the Cherry Moon. And the songs that were done from S/TLB were unecessary IMHO. That rubbed me the wrong way.I guess you didn't know that this movie was made in 2004. I think its a sad but safe realization that Outkast is done as a duo. http://www.ew.com/ew/repo...1_,00.html I had no idea it was done in 2004. And you're right, I think the end is hear for Outkast.  .I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Meloh9 said:[quote] purplecam said: BananaCologne said: From Aint-It-Cool News:
Hola all. Massawyrm here. What a God damned waste of potential. No really. A God damned waste of potential. Here we have Idlewild, a film I’ve been looking forward to for quite some time now – a film so laden with talent and an intriguing premise that it got me all sorts of excited. But it’s a mess, a complete mess that fails to live up even remotely to any expectations you might have for this film. It’s not that it’s entirely terrible, but enough of it is to ruin any hopes of this being anything resembling a truly entertaining piece of film. The list of flaws in this film are great and many – but it all boils down to one core problem. The script. Easily the laziest writing I’ve seen in quite some time, Idlewild steals virtually every cliché prevalent in this kind of film and then quite literally has no clue what to do with them. The film opens up with a flashback reminiscence establishing the lifelong friendship of our two main characters Percival (Andre Benjamin – AKA Andre 3000) and Rooster (Antwan A. Patton – AKA Big Boi.) Must be important, right? Nope. Not a bit of it. Because from that point on, the two characters share about 5 minutes of screentime together. Idlewild is two separate stories that happen to take place at the same time, and have little, if anything, to do with one another. And neither of those stories is particularly new or interesting. Story one is about a talented musician who is being held back in his small town by an overbearing father that believes his son’s place is the family business. And story two is about…a talented musician…who inherits a nightclub and all the gangster trouble that comes with it. The only thing more been there/done that than the story ideas is their execution, each story beat being telegraphed long before it comes to fruition. But that’s not all – because the elements you don’t see coming, well, they’re just fucking nonsensical. Complete and total where the fuck did that come from? moments, followed by half assed implementation that almost begins to lead in an interesting direction only to veer directly back into cliché for resolution. There are entire elements to the story that end up unexplained and utterly irrelevant, no matter how important they really should be. In one case, a character is revealed to not be who they claim…only to have it turn out that another character knew all along and simply kept their mouth shut. Okay, that can be interesting. It’s even more interesting when that story comes to a head and the character who knew is confronted and claims “I can explain!” But they never do. And you’re left to scratch your head asking What the Fuck? Are you kidding me? It’s just left hanging, as if that characters motivation doesn’t actually matter. DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT’S THE THRUST OF THE WHOLE FUCKING STORY! At least it is when that little factoid is revealed. That entire plot twist hinges on that explanation. An explanation that never comes. Idlewild is chock full of bullshit like this. Dangling plot threads, cardboard characters, plot holes you could drive the Porkchop Express through, and oh yeah, Deus ex Machina. Yeah, that’s right. God even shows up. And when he does, it’s to hand a character one of the single most overused movie clichés in the history of overused movie clichés. Gee, I wonder what’s so important about a character being handed a Bible before he goes into a gunfight? You feelin’ me? Six-year-olds reading this review are smacking their foreheads over that one. Making it more bizarre is that the character in question has this incomprehensible story arc involving a flask. That he keeps on him at all times. In his breast pocket. Naw. That would be too fucking silly. But it’s a musical, right? Who needs a real, involving story when you’re making a musical? You just need thin plot threads to take you from number to number? Right? Wrong. Because for the most part, Idlewild doesn’t seem to think it’s a musical. There are several songs, but they’re all numbers performed at the club. Or at least most of them are. Despite the reality Idlewild tries to set up, it breaks its own rules by having two musical numbers that seem entirely out of place. They just happen, out of nowhere, and serve zero purpose. And to make matters worse – both sequences look like you could chop them out of the movie and put them immediately on Mtv. You know, there’s a longtime movie reviewer cliché that This movie looks exactly like a two hour music video. Most times it’s unwarranted – just a slam at the style over substance approach many filmmakers take with their films. Here, this comment is actually the case. It IS a two-hour music video. Entire sequences in this film point directly to a music video director helming it. And sure enough, that’s exactly what this is. It’s a first time feature by a guy who has been directing Outkast music videos for 10 years. Someone who got the resources to make a two-hour version. So what, right? At least the music looks like it’s going to be an original blend of modern Hip Hop with thirties era jazz. Nope. The music is almost entirely modern Hip Hop. Only the last song in the film, the one played during the credits (that you may be familiar with from the trailer) sounds like this. The rest sounds exactly like every other Outkast album ever made. Which is fine, except that when juxtaposed with a story set in the thirties it simply feels wrong. From the looks of it, this appears to be something akin to Moulin Rouge, a film out of time that blends different styles together to create a single, unique universe. But that’s not what this is. It’s a film set in the thirties with musical acts that rap. There’s no creative use of Jazz or Blues mixed into a majority of the music. Just standard, by the numbers, Outkast. And the cast, oh God, the cast. It’s amazing. And a total fucking waste. Faizon Love and Ving Rhames, two of my favorite actors working today, both do fantastic jobs…in the first fifteen minutes of the movie. Then they’re gone. Ben Vereen, a perfect choice for a musical like this if ever there was one – a man that can sing, dance and knows how to act – gets a few scenes as the drunken, overbearing father. And his performance is great, for how little they use him. How about screen legend Cicely Tyson? She appears in exactly one scene. Patty LaBelle? Half of a scene. Comedian Bruce Bruce? Half of Patty LaBelle’s half-a-scene. Bill Nunn? About thirty seconds spread out through the film. Macy Gray? One of the few characters actually around for most of the film that serves virtually no purpose at all but cackle from the background. Pretty much every actor of note or name presented in the trailer is either vastly underused or a glorified cameo. The only big name in the film that gets any love whatsoever is Terrence Howard, who turns in one really great scene before his character is transformed into a mustache-twirling villain with zero depth. And when you begin to think about how lame this film is compared to what it could have been with this concept, this cast and the musical talent behind it – well, it doesn’t live up to anything it promises to be. I mean, come on, you get Patty LaBelle in your film…as a singer…and we can’t even get a Patty LaBelle version of an old Jazz classic, or at least something that sounds like one? But the movie isn’t a complete wasteland. Both Andre Benjamin and Paula Patton turn in believable performances, despite just how clichéd and predictable their story and dialog is. And while each of the above named cameos doesn’t garner the screentime or role they deserve, each and every one of them turns in a performance of note. There isn’t a weak link in that bunch. And each of them manages to elevate their poorly drawn characters into memorable roles through the force of their talent alone. I mean, Jesus, Cicely Tyson alone delivers a performance that feels as if she’s been enduring an entire films worth of pathos, and makes you feel it in a few short lines. And while Writer/Director Bryan Barber may have no sense of story whatsoever, the guy sure knows what to do with a camera. Sections of this film are absolutely gorgeous, and often quite inventive. His camera work alone makes me want to go back and check out his music videos. Which of course only adds to further frustration with the film. The guy clearly isn’t a worthless director. He got great performances and stunning shots. If only he knew how to tell a story. Then he’d be someone to watch. Give this guy a great script and a producer that makes him stick to it, and he could make for one hell of a director. Just keep him the hell away from the editing room – because when the story isn’t being nonsensical, the editing sure is. All in all, I cannot recommend this film at all. If you’re into Outkast, check out the soundtrack. But only check this out if you set your expectations incredibly low. Probably the biggest waste of two hours I’ve spent this week, and frankly, I haven’t done shit this week. At all. Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em. I know I will. - Massawyrm Ya gotta admit that's a pretty damned scathing review. "TELL IT LIKE IT IS MAN! DON'T HOLD BACK!"
Still, it ain't all doom 'n' gloom - Harry Knowles apparently liked it, although even he thought it was a mess but "loved the mess" regardless. Not sure what that says about the movie, but hey: this sounds familiar... Review by Robert Firsching What doesn't matter about this semi-autobiographical musical drama is that it is pretentious, misogynistic, ludicrous, and dumb. What does matter is that it is very entertaining and features an absolutely terrific musical score, one of the few to cop both an Oscar and a Grammy. Prince is the star and performs most of the songs, but the film's highlight is a delightful comic performance by Morris Day (whose group, The Time, does "Jungle Love" and "The Bird") as Prince's rival. Day steals every scene in which he appears with a cackling, tongue-in-cheek hubris that is a perfect antidote to Prince's pompous self-importance. Basically a fast-moving, carefully crafted music video, Purple Rain is fun despite its flaws. - allmovie.com So why is Prince getting four stars for Purple Rain when the critics are saying similar things about both films? Good musical numbers, weak plot. I take it is because the music in Purple Rain is so good. I have not seen the film yet, however based on the mixed reviews I am reading, this film has "cult classic" written all over it. Like The Wiz, it may have a modest opening at the box office, but may develop its own cult following on video in the years to come. Well for one Purple Rain did not have any big name actors in it -- zip, zero, nada. Clarence Williams III btw, does not count as a big name star. Idewild in comparison, has oscar nominees, and acting legends in it. Even if these people only had minor roles or cameos it still brought people to the theater that probably wouldn't have bothered if it was just a bunch of no name c-list actors and Outkast. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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purplecam said: BlaqueKnight said: I guess you didn't know that this movie was made in 2004. I think its a sad but safe realization that Outkast is done as a duo. http://www.ew.com/ew/repo...1_,00.html I had no idea it was done in 2004. And you're right, I think the end is hear for Outkast. .If this all flops this may be just what the group needs. The only thing outkast does not know so far as a group is failure. Each record out sold the last until they eventually had a cross over smash reaching the 11 million mark in sales Sometimes there is no place to go but down. so if this flops it can give them something to think about, a reason to make a comeback. Something to strive for again. However I would rather they split than continue to do the separate but together thing, the album continuity would eventually start to suffer from that. Maybe because this is a hip hop group people think they will automatically break up if idlewild is not a success, I don't know, either way they made their mark in music ok I’m done giving my three cents about Outkast, I just love the group to death [Edited 8/27/06 16:44pm] | |
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Ifsixwuz9 said: Meloh9 said: this sounds familiar... Review by Robert Firsching What doesn't matter about this semi-autobiographical musical drama is that it is pretentious, misogynistic, ludicrous, and dumb. What does matter is that it is very entertaining and features an absolutely terrific musical score, one of the few to cop both an Oscar and a Grammy. Prince is the star and performs most of the songs, but the film's highlight is a delightful comic performance by Morris Day (whose group, The Time, does "Jungle Love" and "The Bird") as Prince's rival. Day steals every scene in which he appears with a cackling, tongue-in-cheek hubris that is a perfect antidote to Prince's pompous self-importance. Basically a fast-moving, carefully crafted music video, Purple Rain is fun despite its flaws. - allmovie.com So why is Prince getting four stars for Purple Rain when the critics are saying similar things about both films? Good musical numbers, weak plot. I take it is because the music in Purple Rain is so good. I have not seen the film yet, however based on the mixed reviews I am reading, this film has "cult classic" written all over it. Like The Wiz, it may have a modest opening at the box office, but may develop its own cult following on video in the years to come. Well for one Purple Rain did not have any big name actors in it -- zip, zero, nada. Clarence Williams III btw, does not count as a big name star. Idewild in comparison, has oscar nominees, and acting legends in it. Even if these people only had minor roles or cameos it still brought people to the theater that probably wouldn't have bothered if it was just a bunch of no name c-list actors and Outkast. thats a good point | |
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Meloh9 said: purplecam said: I had no idea it was done in 2004. And you're right, I think the end is hear for Outkast. .If this all flops this may be just what the group needs. The only thing outkast does not know so far as a group is failure. Each record out sold the last until they eventually had a cross over smash reaching the 11 million mark in sales Sometimes there is no place to go but down. so if this flops it can give them something to think about, a reason to make a comeback. Something to strive for again. However I would rather they split than continue to do the separate but together thing, the album continuity would eventually start to suffer from that. Maybe because this is a hip hop group people think they will automatically break up if idlewild is not a success, I don't know, either way they made their mark in music ok I’m done giving my three cents about Outkast, I just love the group to death [Edited 8/27/06 16:44pm] I agree with you alot. The numbers are in from the movie and it came in #8 or 9 with a total of 5.9 million. It doesn't sound like a lot and people may see that as a failure but they averaged more than the number 1 movie since Idlewild was only in 973 theatres. It just depends on how everyone looks at it. Also Danity Kane has a possibility of topping them on the charts so we'll see. If they break up after this then I will be a little upset. Granted, they do build you up to tear you down, but you have to remember why you first got into the game, and it always seemed like it was out of love with Outkast. So if you still love it, why make it stop? Idk. Studiotraffic-One of the fastest ways to get payed on the net! | |
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Meloh9 said: purplecam said: I had no idea it was done in 2004. And you're right, I think the end is hear for Outkast. .If this all flops this may be just what the group needs. The only thing outkast does not know so far as a group is failure. Each record out sold the last until they eventually had a cross over smash reaching the 11 million mark in sales Sometimes there is no place to go but down. so if this flops it can give them something to think about, a reason to make a comeback. Something to strive for again. However I would rather they split than continue to do the separate but together thing, the album continuity would eventually start to suffer from that. Maybe because this is a hip hop group people think they will automatically break up if idlewild is not a success, I don't know, either way they made their mark in music ok I’m done giving my three cents about Outkast, I just love the group to death [Edited 8/27/06 16:44pm] Great points. And I agree, the whole separate thing is getting old. I hope they can find a way to keep it together cause they are an incredible group and the only group that can keep me even a little bit interested in hip hop. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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This movie had its moments but seemed all over the place. It seemed like they were trying to use a lot of crazy slo-mo shots of the dancing and stuff to mask that the performance scenes were really dull. Hip-hop just didn't really work in the time period depicted. Purple Rain's performance scenes were what made the movie tick, but I didn't feel that was true at all here.
I also felt Big Boi seemed much more natural and at ease than Dre. I didn't really get Dre at all....he jusy dragged along. I did like his love interest, though, but wondered what she saw in his character. He was like a sack of potatoes..... Overall, I didn't think it was that bad, but nothing I'd want to sit through again. It was missing sparks, sexiness, etc...Terrence Howard is a wonder, but he didn't have enough scenes for me. I guess I give them credit for trying;I'm curious to see what happens to them from here. [Edited 8/27/06 22:42pm] | |
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BlaqueKnight said: purplecam said: Another thing that bothered me was that Outkast did songs off of Speakerboxx/Love Below in this film
. What's the point of having a soundtrack of new music if your are going to go back and play songs off of your last CD? Since the Prince argument has come into this, we didn't hear any songs off of 1999 in Purple Rain or Around the World in a Day in Under the Cherry Moon. And the songs that were done from S/TLB were unecessary IMHO. That rubbed me the wrong way.[color=blue][b]I guess you didn't know that this movie was made in 2004. Yeah,and they have said that,when filming started,they didn't even have all the new songs recorded.They recorded the soundtrack during the same time that the movie was being filmed.So,that's why they had to use some of the 'Love Below/Speakerboxx' songs in a few scenes. | |
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the thing that confused me is to my knowledge The Love Below ws supposed to be a movie.
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This is the funniest review of the movie I have read so far:
 Idlewild review | |
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BlaqueKnight said: This is the funniest review of the movie I have read so far:
Idlewild review  Ok, that was cold...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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***SPOILERS***
Regarding Dre's performance, he was playing the role of a guy who is very introverted and inhibited. I think he did a decent job. The scene toward the end with the corpse really got to me. He did a good love scene too. 
BK edit. [Edited 8/28/06 18:55pm] Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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BabyNoz, you could have just said the scene with him and the corpse at the end. Edit that post! Let's not bust up the end for those that haven't seen it yet. | |
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well babynoiz did warn me **spoilerz** so I didn't have to read it
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exactly, it says *spoilers*
and technically, that isn't the end. but, as you wish... Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: This is the funniest review of the movie I have read so far:
Idlewild review  That was the funniest and most honest review of Idlewild I've seen yet! On point in everyway. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Idlewild came in at #9 with 5.9 million. | |
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babynoz said: exactly, it says *spoilers*
and technically, that isn't the end. but, as you wish...  @ "BK edit" | |
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hmm...don't get how people are comparing "Idlewild" to "Purple Rain", they are two completely different movies, and one doesn't have to do with the other. Nor does it compare with UTCM....but anyway
I saw the movie this weekend and I have to say that for one it was entirely too long. Some performances were very good (Big Boi, Andre, Terrence Howard, Ving Rhames, Ben Vereen) while the rest of the performances sought of made the vibe of the movie kind of weird IMO, especially with that girl that played Sally (by the way is she Big Boi's wife in real life or something??? I haven't had a chance to read this entire thread yet) and Faizon Love's character got on my nerves with all of that unneccessary laughing. The movie didn't convince me to go out and listen to the new Idlewild cd, but instead made me pull out the Speakerboxx/The Love Below album. I really liked the musical performances in the movie, but the story line was slow and very predictable. It was still good seeing the movie. I thought that Andre 3000's sex scene was way better than Big Boi's.....  I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: babynoz said: exactly, it says *spoilers*
and technically, that isn't the end. but, as you wish... @ "BK edit" you too, sugar!Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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missfee said: (by the way is she Big Boi's wife in real life or something???
Actually, she's Robin Thicke's wife. | |
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missfee said: hmm...don't get how people are comparing "Idlewild" to "Purple Rain", they are two completely different movies, and one doesn't have to do with the other. Nor does it compare with UTCM....but anyway
I saw the movie this weekend and I have to say that for one it was entirely too long. Some performances were very good (Big Boi, Andre, Terrence Howard, Ving Rhames, Ben Vereen) while the rest of the performances sought of made the vibe of the movie kind of weird IMO, especially with that girl that played Sally (by the way is she Big Boi's wife in real life or something??? I haven't had a chance to read this entire thread yet) and Faizon Love's character got on my nerves with all of that unneccessary laughing. The movie didn't convince me to go out and listen to the new Idlewild cd, but instead made me pull out the Speakerboxx/The Love Below album. I really liked the musical performances in the movie, but the story line was slow and very predictable. It was still good seeing the movie. I thought that Andre 3000's sex scene was way better than Big Boi's..... I agree, Dre's love scene was the best. 
Since it's Andre3000 I guess the comparisons to Prince are inevitable. In some ways it's complimentary, but at some point it becomes baggage that Andre doesn't need. I thoroughly enjoyed it for the reasons I stated above. Love the soundtrack too. I'm surprised that it only reached number 9. Why isn't this movie being supported more? I thought it would at least be in the top 5. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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babynoz said: I'm surprised that it only reached number 9. Why isn't this movie being supported more? I thought it would at least be in the top 5. all black cast + musical fantasy + period piece = low opening $$$ | |
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BlaqueKnight said: babynoz said: I'm surprised that it only reached number 9. Why isn't this movie being supported more? I thought it would at least be in the top 5. all black cast + musical fantasy + period piece = low opening $$$ I read an interview where Andre says he was given these very same reasons you mention when he was shopping this film around Hollywood. I thought more people would appreciate something different. Maybe they might have been better off doing a Bad Boys III type movie. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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PurpleCharm said: Idlewild came in at #9 with 5.9 million.
That's a shame,but musicals are always a hard sell.Even the much-hyped "Rent" didn't do spectacular box office.I wonder how the upcoming "Dreamgirls" is gonna do? | |
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I've yet to see Idlewild but... SPOILER: A friend of mine went to see it and just went on and on about how bad this movie was. I tried to defend the movie (without having seen it yet) but I just had to agree with him when he told me about the scene where he just couldn't take it any more and walked out of the theater. My friend said "Andre starts singing "She lives in my lap" to a corpse. I just had to walk out at that point." That sounds pretty bad to me. There's no way that "She lives in my lap" could ever be sorrowful or appropriately used during a death scene. But; I'll find out for myself today or tomorrow. Not A Newbie, Just Reinvented | |
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DaisyHall said: I've yet to see Idlewild but... SPOILER: A friend of mine went to see it and just went on and on about how bad this movie was. I tried to defend the movie (without having seen it yet) but I just had to agree with him when he told me about the scene where he just couldn't take it any more and walked out of the theater. My friend said "Andre starts singing "She lives in my lap" to a corpse. I just had to walk out at that point." That sounds pretty bad to me. There's no way that "She lives in my lap" could ever be sorrowful or appropriately used during a death scene. But; I'll find out for myself today or tomorrow.
Your friend didn't get it. | |
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