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Thread started 08/21/06 5:36pm

GaryTheNoTrash
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When and why did "ugly" music artists disappear from the airwaves?

I blame MTV, August 1, 1981 when they started to broadcast, that was probably the decline of "unattractive" performers. Despite excellent vocal abilities, image seems to be everything. If Beyonce didn't look the way she was, she'd probably be that fat girl in the bar that takes kareoke a little to seriously. We are being deprived of amazing singers simply because they don't look that part sigh
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Reply #1 posted 08/21/06 5:37pm

k7i2m3

the males really aren't that attractive. i have noticed that with the women although most of them probably look average without the make-up and weave.
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Reply #2 posted 08/21/06 5:39pm

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k7i2m3 said:

the males really aren't that attractive....


Except for MJ

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Reply #3 posted 08/21/06 5:49pm

k7i2m3

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

k7i2m3 said:

the males really aren't that attractive....


Except for MJ




sad hey leave my mj alone. he's "special" lol
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Reply #4 posted 08/21/06 5:54pm

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GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

I blame MTV, August 1, 1981 when they started to broadcast, that was probably the decline of "unattractive" performers. Despite excellent vocal abilities, image seems to be everything. If Beyonce didn't look the way she was, she'd probably be that fat girl in the bar that takes kareoke a little to seriously. We are being deprived of amazing singers simply because they don't look that part sigh
Good point Gary. I was watching a documentary about Janis Joplin this afternoon. Janis was one of the best singers ever.She was sooooo energetic in concert (Even if it was drug fueled) She gave 150% in her performances. Sadly no one would sign her in todays industry because.... Well I hate to be mean but let's just say she was'nt the most attractive woman around. This industry has got to change man. And soon.
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Reply #5 posted 08/21/06 6:02pm

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GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

k7i2m3 said:

the males really aren't that attractive....


Except for MJ

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Reply #6 posted 08/21/06 7:01pm

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k7i2m3 said:

the males really aren't that attractive. i have noticed that with the women although most of them probably look average without the make-up and weave.


It's a double standard dudes can get away with looking average or just plain busted. But women need to have a look.

Don't really see the problem with this by the way.
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Reply #7 posted 08/21/06 7:06pm

PurpleCharm

Video killed the radio star.
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Reply #8 posted 08/21/06 8:10pm

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I donno, but God bless Todd Rundgren.
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Reply #9 posted 08/22/06 5:06am

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Ne-Yo is ugly, Avant is ugly, Chris Brown is average, Keisha Cole isn't cute, Lil Jon is far from handsome, etc.
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Reply #10 posted 08/22/06 5:44am

Rhondab

missfee said:

Ne-Yo is ugly, Avant is ugly, Chris Brown is average, Keisha Cole isn't cute, Lil Jon is far from handsome, etc.



keisha MAKES herself uncute.


But this is why Cassie has a record deal....she's cute.
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Reply #11 posted 08/22/06 6:31am

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Good points though, if your going to be a rapper you need to look like a broke down gangsta, no one would take a clean cut suit wearing rapper seriously, Britney, Beyonce yada yada, they all try to look the part.

Things have changed
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Reply #12 posted 08/22/06 8:18am

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righteous1 said:

Good points though, if your going to be a rapper you need to look like a broke down gangsta, no one would take a clean cut suit wearing rapper seriously, Britney, Beyonce yada yada, they all try to look the part.

Things have changed


Jay-Z wears suits nowadays
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Reply #13 posted 08/22/06 8:30am

sallysassalot

i can see ugly every day. i want my entertainment to be attractive. is that too much to ask?















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Reply #14 posted 08/22/06 8:36am

ThreadBare

This thread's premise is interesting. Beauty still is in the eye of the beholder.

This beholder isn't moved by Madonna, Paris Hilton, Alicia Keys or Fergie -- and they all have contracts.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for industry love for such beauties as Lalah Hathaway, Meshell Ndegeocello and Oleta Adams -- who all are as fine as can be.

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Reply #15 posted 08/22/06 8:46am

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ThreadBare said:

This thread's premise is interesting. Beauty still is in the eye of the beholder.

This beholder isn't moved by Madonna, Paris Hilton, Alicia Keys or Fergie -- and they all have contracts.


You may not find them attractive, but they're all conforming to "the look" - the hair, the makeup, the body, the clothes, etc.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for industry love for such beauties as Lalah Hathaway, Meshell Ndegeocello and Oleta Adams -- who all are as fine as can be.

confuse


love

I was watching Meshell clips on Youtube the other day for hours. She has that huge, undefinable sex appeal that brings me to my knees. worship
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Reply #16 posted 08/22/06 8:51am

ThreadBare

FunkMistress said:

ThreadBare said:

This thread's premise is interesting. Beauty still is in the eye of the beholder.

This beholder isn't moved by Madonna, Paris Hilton, Alicia Keys or Fergie -- and they all have contracts.


You may not find them attractive, but they're all conforming to "the look" - the hair, the makeup, the body, the clothes, etc.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for industry love for such beauties as Lalah Hathaway, Meshell Ndegeocello and Oleta Adams -- who all are as fine as can be.

confuse


love


I was watching Meshell clips on Youtube the other day for hours. She has that huge, undefinable sex appeal that brings me to my knees. worship


Yeah, Meshell's dreamy. mushy

And, I know how that "look" thing goes. I just wanted to represent the margins. lol
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Reply #17 posted 08/22/06 8:54am

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ThreadBare said:

FunkMistress said:



love


I was watching Meshell clips on Youtube the other day for hours. She has that huge, undefinable sex appeal that brings me to my knees. worship


Yeah, Meshell's dreamy. mushy

And, I know how that "look" thing goes. I just wanted to represent the margins. lol


hug

When she rocks that suit and tie in the video for Leviticus:Faggot it's almost more than I can stand.
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Reply #18 posted 08/22/06 8:55am

ThreadBare

FunkMistress said:

ThreadBare said:



Yeah, Meshell's dreamy. mushy

And, I know how that "look" thing goes. I just wanted to represent the margins. lol


hug

When she rocks that suit and tie in the video for Leviticus:Faggot it's almost more than I can stand.


doh! Don't take us there, FM!!! Don't take us there!!! shake



hug backatcha



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Reply #19 posted 08/22/06 9:15am

Tom

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Remember the good old days when we had Rick Ocasek and Steve Perry? LOL...
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Reply #20 posted 08/22/06 9:15am

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Officially the first casualty of this crisis:

Space for sale...
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Reply #21 posted 08/22/06 9:29am

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ElCapitan said:

k7i2m3 said:

the males really aren't that attractive. i have noticed that with the women although most of them probably look average without the make-up and weave.


It's a double standard dudes can get away with looking average or just plain busted. But women need to have a look.

Don't really see the problem with this by the way.


How do U not see a problem with this? There aren't any real singers anymore... THAT's a problem.

The males have actually gotten uglier in the last 7-10 years. and yeah, true... the females are generally average, but dolled up. The lack of talent is based on the system of things... like, record label economics, 21st Century Style.
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Reply #22 posted 08/22/06 9:34am

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FunkMistress said:

ThreadBare said:

This thread's premise is interesting. Beauty still is in the eye of the beholder.

This beholder isn't moved by Madonna, Paris Hilton, Alicia Keys or Fergie -- and they all have contracts.


You may not find them attractive, but they're all conforming to "the look" - the hair, the makeup, the body, the clothes, etc.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for industry love for such beauties as Lalah Hathaway, Meshell Ndegeocello and Oleta Adams -- who all are as fine as can be.

confuse


love

I was watching Meshell clips on Youtube the other day for hours. She has that huge, undefinable sex appeal that brings me to my knees. worship


Meshell is the BOMB. I haven't ever played with her, but I did hang out with her once in D.C. 2 cool. Most of her band is from D.C., and I used 2 hang with then on the regular. Freddie Peña is one of the baddest living keyboard players.

Easy,

G.
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Reply #23 posted 08/22/06 9:49am

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Giovanni777 said:

FunkMistress said:



love

I was watching Meshell clips on Youtube the other day for hours. She has that huge, undefinable sex appeal that brings me to my knees. worship


Meshell is the BOMB. I haven't ever played with her, but I did hang out with her once in D.C. 2 cool. Most of her band is from D.C., and I used 2 hang with then on the regular. Freddie Peña is one of the baddest living keyboard players.

Easy,

G.



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Reply #24 posted 08/22/06 10:25am

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OH Dag.

R U in D.C.?

I moved back 2 the NE in '99 (NY), but I visit D.C> occaisionally. I was there from '94 to '99.
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Reply #25 posted 08/22/06 10:30am

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CinisterCee said:

I donno, but God bless Todd Rundgren.





Sometimes I think he looks/looked better with the make-up on. razz
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Reply #26 posted 08/22/06 10:43am

ThreadBare

Giovanni777 said:

OH Dag.

R U in D.C.?

I moved back 2 the NE in '99 (NY), but I visit D.C> occaisionally. I was there from '94 to '99.



Yeah, not anymore. But, I feel all kinds of hometown pride for Meshell. She was holdin' it down with go-go groups, back in the day. touched
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Reply #27 posted 08/22/06 11:21am

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ThreadBare said:

Giovanni777 said:

OH Dag.

R U in D.C.?

I moved back 2 the NE in '99 (NY), but I visit D.C> occaisionally. I was there from '94 to '99.



Yeah, not anymore. But, I feel all kinds of hometown pride for Meshell. She was holdin' it down with go-go groups, back in the day. touched


Yeah, I've been in NY since '99.

When were U there? I wonder if we hung at the same spots.
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Reply #28 posted 08/22/06 11:55am

ThreadBare

Giovanni777 said:

ThreadBare said:




Yeah, not anymore. But, I feel all kinds of hometown pride for Meshell. She was holdin' it down with go-go groups, back in the day. touched


Yeah, I've been in NY since '99.

When were U there? I wonder if we hung at the same spots.



In the early 90s, I usually hung at church and the big library near the old convention center. When you were there, I was in VA. So, no overlap, I'm afraid.

I finally got to Blues Alley, couple of years ago, to catch Jonathan Butler.

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Reply #29 posted 08/22/06 2:03pm

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ThreadBare said:

Giovanni777 said:



Yeah, I've been in NY since '99.

When were U there? I wonder if we hung at the same spots.



In the early 90s, I usually hung at church and the big library near the old convention center. When you were there, I was in VA. So, no overlap, I'm afraid.

I finally got to Blues Alley, couple of years ago, to catch Jonathan Butler.

"My name is Fruit Punch. I don't get out much." geek


Oh.

Waitaminnit... Jonathan Butler? U know, I was very close 2 the new, Nelson Mandela appointed, South African ambassador and his family. Man, they LOVE Jonathan Butler in South Africa! (he is South African) I had his double album with the classic "Lies" on it.

Blues Alley was a cool spot. Slightly pretentious, big money, but cool, nonetheless.

I guess we're kind of jackin' this thread, but oh well... FUNKMISTRESS has disappeared, so we won't get it, so 2 speak...
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