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Thread started 08/19/06 11:38pm

bobsteezy

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Isn't bad 80's worse than disco?

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.
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Reply #1 posted 08/20/06 2:35am

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bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.

shrug I'll take either over some of the crap currently being created..
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Reply #2 posted 08/20/06 3:23am

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bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.

ill That song is crap.

I really love most good disco music, (and not the overplayed I Will Survive, It's Raining Men, and the damn Village People that if I hear one more time I'll turn violent) but I'm sort of burnt out on it now. But there are some really great underrated or just unheard of disco songs that make me love the genre again when I hear them. nod

And yeah, the 80s had some REALLY bad and cheesy songs, but I think comparing that to disco is apples and oranges.
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Reply #3 posted 08/20/06 5:10am

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bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.

There was bad stuff in the '80s? Where? confuse lol I love "The Neutron Dance." dancing jig I also like a lot of disco, but I'll give the nod to the '80s.

no no no! "Cheesy" != "Bad" no no no!
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Reply #4 posted 08/20/06 10:37am

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bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.

Give some more examples.
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Reply #5 posted 08/20/06 1:57pm

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bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.


I love that song! I love that whole LP. BAD 80s is an oxymoron. 80s rule.
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Reply #6 posted 08/20/06 2:02pm

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badujunkie said:

bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.


I love that song! I love that whole LP. BAD 80s is an oxymoron. 80s rule.

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Reply #7 posted 08/20/06 2:20pm

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bobsteezy said:


For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.


Why? confused There's no "correct" answer to these questions. But all my favorite music came out of the 80s. The rock, the pop, the funk, the metal...
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Reply #8 posted 08/20/06 3:07pm

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bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.



homophobia and racism are behind the dislike of disco by rock critcs. Why would middle aged white men from the 70s have any disire to saying anything good about the music listened to by gays, blacks and latinos?
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Reply #9 posted 08/20/06 3:11pm

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ehuffnsd said:

bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.



homophobia and racism is behind the dislike of disco by rock critcs. Why would middle aged white men from the 70s have any disire to saying anything about the music listened to by gays, blacks and latinos?


Amen
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Reply #10 posted 08/20/06 5:29pm

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ehuffnsd said:

bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.



homophobia and racism are behind the dislike of disco by rock critcs. Why would middle aged white men from the 70s have any disire to saying anything good about the music listened to by gays, blacks and latinos?
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Good point.
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Reply #11 posted 08/20/06 5:32pm

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whoknows said:

bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.

Give some more examples.



Dancing on the Ceiling - Lionel Richie, I Wanna Dance with Somebody - Whitney Houston, Ghostbusters razz
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Reply #12 posted 08/20/06 5:46pm

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bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.



I thought disco was loved? At least in europe it is? Even Kylie's stuff has huge disco influences

Bad 80's is still great though. Like Starship "we built this city". Awesomely bad song as VH1 would say.

"Marconi plays the mamba, listen to the radio, don't you remember
We built this city, we built this city on rock an' roll"



I sing those 2 lines all the time, and people find it hilairious.

"Marconi plays the mumba..."? WTF, but its awesome anyway lol



The worst 80's songs are usually songs that have that harsh digital early cd sound, with synth pads for drums and icky keyboards. In other words, the most dated songs always get bad raps, and the 80's is full of them.
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Reply #13 posted 08/20/06 6:00pm

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thesexofit said:


"Marconi plays the mumba..."? WTF, but its awesome anyway lol

You do know who Marconi was, right? That at least makes it point in the direction of making sense (although it doesn't quite get there).
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Reply #14 posted 08/20/06 6:11pm

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AlexdeParis said:

thesexofit said:


"Marconi plays the mumba..."? WTF, but its awesome anyway lol

You do know who Marconi was, right? That at least makes it point in the direction of making sense (although it doesn't quite get there).



My dad told me once, that he had something to do with radio? So yes i got that bit, but playing the mumba? Its a pretty random line in a song so commercial.

Me and my brother and sister use to love that song as a kid. I still do love it actually
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Reply #15 posted 08/20/06 6:25pm

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thesexofit said:

AlexdeParis said:


You do know who Marconi was, right? That at least makes it point in the direction of making sense (although it doesn't quite get there).



My dad told me once, that he had something to do with radio? So yes i got that bit, but playing the mumba? Its a pretty random line in a song so commercial.

Yes, he's credited with inventing the radio. The mamba is a snake. I think Bernie Taupin (yes, Elton John's co-writer wrote the lyrics) meant "mambo" (which actually rhymes) or "samba."
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Reply #16 posted 08/20/06 6:31pm

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AlexdeParis said:

thesexofit said:




My dad told me once, that he had something to do with radio? So yes i got that bit, but playing the mumba? Its a pretty random line in a song so commercial.

Yes, he's credited with inventing the radio. The mamba is a snake. I think Bernie Taupin (yes, Elton John's co-writer wrote the lyrics) meant "mambo" (which actually rhymes) or "samba."



Deep analysis of these lyrics is priceless lol


"Someone's always playing corporation games
Who cares they're always changing corporation names
We just want to dance here, someone stole the stage
They call us irresponsible, write us off the page"



Hmmm. Maybe some club they go to keeps changing names but the actual club is the same (i know that feeling). And maybe "someone stole the stage" is reference to maybe the club getting damaged by their dancing so "they call us irresponsible.....". Yep, i got it!
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Reply #17 posted 08/20/06 7:00pm

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HELL NO!


I love bad 80's!

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Reply #18 posted 08/20/06 7:54pm

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I like some disco stuff boxed

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Reply #19 posted 08/20/06 10:23pm

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I love crappy eighties songs! lol
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Reply #20 posted 08/21/06 1:35am

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Crappy 80's or Disco..humm...let me think about it while I listen to Evelyn King.
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Reply #21 posted 08/21/06 1:44am

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Rogue588 said:

bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.

For instance - I would rank the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance", and stuff like that as the worst ever.

shrug I'll take either over some of the crap currently being created..
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Reply #22 posted 08/21/06 5:30am

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bobsteezy said:

Disco is pretty much universally trashed by critics but I must say I find way more basslines, and crafty horn arrangements in disco from the 70's than I do in bad 80's crap.



70s disco music is waaaayyyy more interesting and exciting than the bland,over-produced,synth-heavy,drum-machined crap that dominated in the late 80s.At least in the disco era,they were still using real instruments,for the most part.You had horns,trumphets,violins,etc.Listen to a Chic or Barry White album from that period....it sounded like an entire orchestra was playing!

Here's something to think about: in 1979,Donna Summer released the song "Bad Girls".In 1989,she released "This Time I Know It's For Real".You tell me,what song is better?
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Reply #23 posted 08/22/06 6:51am

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Disco was the absolute best. It was my first love and it influenced absolutely everything I listened to my entire life.

It was because of disco that I got into funk. Disco itself was very funky. It took funk, got rid of the jazz, sped up the tempo, and made it more danceable. Disco was univeral and crossed all racial lines. When it "died" in 1979, rock and new wave (which sounded nothing like disco) was taking over pop radio. I started exploring R&B radio and the funk in 1980 was very disco-like. I converted over to R&B radio completely and, until 1985, funk continued to be uptempo, funky, fun, and danceable.

When Shitney came on the scene and opened the doors for the dead asses, I got into house music which was nothing more than disco reincarnated. Even the rap of the 1980s was fast paced and danceable, just like disco was.

It wasn't until house music went underground and rap took over that I got completely disgusted with music as a whole. By this time, rap was totally different than before. There was nothing disco-like about the rap of the 1990s. Rap songs stripped off most of the music and slowed the tempo way down. It wasn't until then, that disco really died because all the music before then had that disco tempo and danceable energy even if it wasn't officially known as "disco". When all the disco influence was finally gone, that's when I really started bitching and will continue to bitch.
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Reply #24 posted 08/22/06 7:30am

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vainandy said:

Disco was the absolute best. It was my first love and it influenced absolutely everything I listened to my entire life.

It was because of disco that I got into funk. Disco itself was very funky. It took funk, got rid of the jazz, sped up the tempo, and made it more danceable. Disco was univeral and crossed all racial lines. When it "died" in 1979, rock and new wave (which sounded nothing like disco) was taking over pop radio. I started exploring R&B radio and the funk in 1980 was very disco-like. I converted over to R&B radio completely and, until 1985, funk continued to be uptempo, funky, fun, and danceable.

When Shitney came on the scene and opened the doors for the dead asses, I got into house music which was nothing more than disco reincarnated. Even the rap of the 1980s was fast paced and danceable, just like disco was.

It wasn't until house music went underground and rap took over that I got completely disgusted with music as a whole. By this time, rap was totally different than before. There was nothing disco-like about the rap of the 1990s. Rap songs stripped off most of the music and slowed the tempo way down. It wasn't until then, that disco really died because all the music before then had that disco tempo and danceable energy even if it wasn't officially known as "disco". When all the disco influence was finally gone, that's when I really started bitching and will continue to bitch.
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Excellent analysis. This echo’s my sentiment exactly!! thumbs up!
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Reply #25 posted 08/22/06 10:02am

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whoknows said:


Give some more examples.



Dancing on the Ceiling - Lionel Richie, I Wanna Dance with Somebody - Whitney Houston, Ghostbusters razz
Lionel needs his A** whupped for Dancing On The Ceiling". Not only was I Wanna Dance With Somebody" a terrible song but but the video SUCKED real bad. Whitney should've hired a choreographer caused her dance moves were crap. And that seaweed style wig she wore was terrible. Ray Parker Jr. ripped off Huey Lewis & The News song "I Want A New Drug" to make Ghostbusters enough said. Here are two more 80's songs which I absolutely cannot stand. "Come On Eileen, By Dexy's Midnight Runners. And "The Safety Dance" by "Men Without Hats".
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Reply #26 posted 08/22/06 10:17am

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omfg I LOVE "BAD '80s." Cheesy/euphoro synths are like drug music!

dancerella, feel me on this one!
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