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Santana's New Album Called "Shaman" Due In Stores October 15!

I can't wait! Read on:

Santana Aims for Another Home Run with Next Album
Thu Aug 8, 8:16 PM ET
By Gary Graff

DETROIT (Reuters) - As Carlos Santana prepares for this fall's release of "Shaman," his highly anticipated follow-up to the 1999 blockbuster "Supernatural," the rock guitar virtuoso says he feels like a baseball slugger in a key game situation.

"I feel like (home-run king) Barry Bonds, man," said the 55-year-old Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, who co-founded the band that bears his name in the late 1960s in San Francisco.

"The bases are loaded; I worked with all these incredible artists and singers and performers and engineers. So it's up to us to walk up to the plate and hit it right."

If he does, the Mexican-born musician will make rock 'n' roll lightning strike twice.

"Supernatural," which has sold 25 million copies worldwide and won eight Grammy Awards, ended a commercial drought for Santana by teaming him with a variety of contemporary stars, such as Lauryn Hill, Dave Matthews, Wyclef Jean, Everlast and matchbox twenty frontman Rob Thomas, who co-wrote and sang the hit single "Smooth."

"Shaman," due in stores on October 15, is similarly populated by guest artists, but Santana is mum when asked for specifics.

"It's not even letting a little kitty out of the bag," he said in a recent interview. "It's a big ol' cat."

SHAMANISTIC COMMUNITY

He does, however, note that members of the band Ozomatli played on the album, while opera tenor Placido Domingo also makes an appearance.

Members of the San Diego hard rock band P.O.D. have revealed they recorded a track called "America" with Santana. And Rob Thomas previously said he wrote some of the material on "Shaman," though he did not expect to perform on it.

Clive Davis, the former head of Santana's label, Arista, and the architect behind "Supernatural," assisted on "Shaman," along with current Arista chief L.A. Reid.

Santana is most excited about the songs, however, and said new tracks such as "Love to the People," "Aye Aye Aye," "Novus," "Fu Fu" and a cover of African singer Angelique Kidjo's "Adouma" have been well-received by European and North American audiences during the group's summer tour.

"I have confidence that more than one song will touch you in a place where you say, 'God, Carlos's music makes me feel very grateful and happy and exhilarated to be alive,"' Santana said. "What we're interested in, man, is compassion and healing. ... "I'm not about show business, man. I'm not entertainment. There's nothing wrong with that, but that's not what I do. They sell you a lot of illusion; we offer reality."

TAKING IT TO THE PEOPLE

Santana also hopes his current U.S. tour -- which kicked off July 31 in Virginia Beach, Virginia, and so far has dates booked into October -- will spread "a positive vibration" among his fans.

"It's the opposite of what's happening in America, which is fear and anger," the guitarist said. "It's a very positive thing. We feel very bubbly, very up about life. We have a lot of joy. We have a lot of conviction. We have a lot of clarity, and it's very contagious."

He would be happy if that feeling leads fans to buy "Shaman" in the same numbers they bought "Supernatural," but Santana said he feels "no hesitation or fear or nervousness to compete with 'Supernatural."'

"I'm 55, man, and I'm still participating -- not competing -- in this arena with Britney Spears and 'N Sync ( news - web sites) and Dave Matthews and Lenny Kravitz," he said. "We're in it, man, and all we want to do is spread a good feeling and inspire people."

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One of our most spiritual musicians 2 grace the Earth, Carlos Santana is a legend, and I love his work! I'll b 1st in line come October 15!!!
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Reply #1 posted 08/08/02 9:49pm

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"I feel like (home-run king) Barry Bonds, man," said the 55-year-old Rock and Roll Hall of Famer

A steroid high?

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Reply #2 posted 08/08/02 11:17pm

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Ain't No Steroid's when you are Walking on pace for 200 Walks?? Barry is the Man.you can't Pump Eye's to the Ball you either got it or you don't?? what happen with Michael Jackson,Prince,&Quincy Jones working on this Album??
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Reply #3 posted 08/08/02 11:52pm

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Ain't No Steroid's when you are Walking on pace for 200 Walks??

What do walks have to do with it?

Barry is the Man.you can't Pump Eye's to the Ball you either got it or you don't??

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Reply #4 posted 08/09/02 12:05am

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mistermaxxx said:

Ain't No Steroid's when you are Walking on pace for 200 Walks??

What do walks have to do with it?

Barry is the Man.you can't Pump Eye's to the Ball you either got it or you don't??

question
because Barry Bonds has been on top of His Game for Years.Gary Shieffield doesn't have to Lie He worked out with Barry Bonds this Past off Season&Atlanta is doing well.Barry Walks like Ichiro&Still Hits 30 Plus Homers,100 Runs,Hits,RBI's,350 batting Average&Has a Glove to Boot.Barry is the Real Deal.you don't Walk as a Left-Hand Batter with a Left-Hander Pitching.and then a Team will walk Barry to Pitch to Jeff Kent who is a Right Handed Hitter&a Good Hitter who was MVP 2 Years Back.Now Barry gets the Ultimate Respect.Tony Gwynn spoke out&said Barry should have 6 MVP's already.you can't do what He does just on some Super Gel you gotta have skills.
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Reply #5 posted 08/09/02 12:08am

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SO!

Okay...let's get away from Mr. Bonds...How about that Carlos Santana?!?!?
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Reply #6 posted 08/09/02 12:15am

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SO!

Okay...let's get away from Mr. Bonds...How about that Carlos Santana?!?!?
again I Wonder why MJ&Carlos aren't doing a Song for this Album?
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Reply #7 posted 08/09/02 12:25am

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Well, the article does say there's some secrets... I wonder...
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Reply #8 posted 08/09/02 12:29am

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because Barry Bonds has been on top of His Game for Years.

He's never been as much of a power hitter till the last few years, and physically he's never been bigger. The weight combined with age isn't usually indicative of someone who becomes a better hitter during their late 30s. Plus, he's already said publicly that he considers testing an invasion of privacy - of course that's gibberish for I've got something to hide, and I'm against testing.

Barry Walks like Ichiro&Still Hits 30 Plus Homers,100 Runs,Hits,RBI's,350 batting Average

No, he's past the 30+ stage. Way past it.

Barry is the Real Deal.you don't Walk as a Left-Hand Batter with a Left-Hander Pitching.and then a Team will walk Barry to Pitch to Jeff Kent who is a Right Handed Hitter&a Good Hitter who was MVP 2 Years Back.Now Barry gets the Ultimate Respect.Tony Gwynn spoke out&said Barry should have 6 MVP's already.you can't do what He does just on some Super Gel you gotta have skills.

You're taking this ENTIRELY out of context. I'm not talking about the Bonds of yesteryear in his 20s and early 30s. He wasn't even close to hitting as many home runs as he hit last year previously in his career. Never even hit even 50 home runs. But in his late 30s he's become a better power hitter, while carrying more weight (one of the symptoms of steroids). When older players gain that type of weight it's EXTREMELY rare that they become better hitters (compare a picture of him physically to his early days in SF to today and look at the guy's neck and legs!). Combined with his averseness of steroid testing. That by itself would be enough for me to believe it. If you got nothing to hide you have no problem letting the league test you. And we'll never know for a fact, because by the time they do test he might be either retired, or have enough time to go cold turkey before testing. Baseball AND its players have perpetuated a total FRAUD. All the home run record breakers of the last few years should have their names stricken from the record books - they're all MUCH bigger than they used to be - and it's NOT just because of lifting weights. The latter part of Bonds' career will NEVER be legitimate in my eyes - and he sure as hell can't carry Willie Mays' jock if he's doing what he's doing while on the juice. All signs point to certain players being guilty. I don't buy that he's not juiced TODAY. Don't buy it AT ALL!

Sorry for the threadjacking June7th. This will be my last post about Bonds in this thread.
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Reply #9 posted 08/09/02 12:40am

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You know,I was gonna start this same thread! But I was waiting until I had a complete tracklist and more details.Carlos is being very tight-lipped about this CD,but this is what I've managed to find out...

Partial tracklist---

"Lady Bird Blues" with Cee-Lo
"Fu Fu"
"Novus"
"Aye Aye Aye"
"One Of These Days"
"Manana"
"Love To The People"
"Adouma"
"Victory Is Won"
"Ath Of My Head"
"Truth Don Die"
"Shaman"
"America" with P.O.D.

Guest Artists (rumored to appear!)---

Nelly Furtado
Sting
Marc Anthony
Bob Dylan
Placido Domingo (confirmed)
Ozomatli (confirmed)
Cee-Lo (confirmed)

Other details...

***In a recent issue of Vibe,there was a photo of Carlos with Patti LaBelle and Ja Rule at a post-Grammy party.I'm betting that he asked them to appear on a track!

***The song "Truth Don Die" is really spelled that way.Carlos has been performing many of these songs in concert.

***Rob Thomas of Matchbox Twenty (who wrote and sang on "Smooth") has confirmed that he wrote a few songs,but doesn't actually appear on the album.

***Biggest mystery of all: Will MJ and Prince appear on this CD??
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Reply #10 posted 08/09/02 12:43am

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Supernova said:

Mistermaxxx said:

because Barry Bonds has been on top of His Game for Years.

He's never been as much of a power hitter till the last few years, and physically he's never been bigger. The weight combined with age isn't usually indicative of someone who becomes a better hitter during their late 30s. Plus, he's already said publicly that he considers testing an invasion of privacy - of course that's gibberish for I've got something to hide, and I'm against testing.

Barry Walks like Ichiro&Still Hits 30 Plus Homers,100 Runs,Hits,RBI's,350 batting Average

No, he's past the 30+ stage. Way past it.

Barry is the Real Deal.you don't Walk as a Left-Hand Batter with a Left-Hander Pitching.and then a Team will walk Barry to Pitch to Jeff Kent who is a Right Handed Hitter&a Good Hitter who was MVP 2 Years Back.Now Barry gets the Ultimate Respect.Tony Gwynn spoke out&said Barry should have 6 MVP's already.you can't do what He does just on some Super Gel you gotta have skills.

You're taking this ENTIRELY out of context. I'm not talking about the Bonds of yesteryear in his 20s and early 30s. He wasn't even close to hitting as many home runs as he hit last year previously in his career. Never even hit even 50 home runs. But in his late 30s he's become a better power hitter, while carrying more weight (one of the symptoms of steroids). When older players gain that type of weight it's EXTREMELY rare that they become better hitters (compare a picture of him physically to his early days in SF to today and look at the guy's neck and legs!). Combined with his averseness of steroid testing. That by itself would be enough for me to believe it. If you got nothing to hide you have no problem letting the league test you. And we'll never know for a fact, because by the time they do test he might be either retired, or have enough time to go cold turkey before testing. Baseball AND its players have perpetuated a total FRAUD. All the home run record breakers of the last few years should have their names stricken from the record books - they're all MUCH bigger than they used to be - and it's NOT just because of lifting weights. The latter part of Bonds' career will NEVER be legitimate in my eyes - and he sure as hell can't carry Willie Mays' jock if he's doing what he's doing while on the juice. All signs point to certain players being guilty. I don't buy that he's not juiced TODAY. Don't buy it AT ALL!

Sorry for the threadjacking June7th. This will be my last post about Bonds in this thread.
Gary Shieffield&The San Francisco 49er's Players He works out with don't call any Funny Juice within Barry.The Guy was First Ballot Hall of Famer 10 years ago.Willie Mays His Godfather told Him He should have Hit 50 or More Home Runs Years ago.in fact in 94 He was on Pace for that kind of Year before the strike.dude was at 30 Homers&almost 30 Steals.He has done that feat quite a few times.if it were so easy to Juice&Hit then everybody would.Barry Bonds is easily one of the Greatest Baseball Players Ever.you can't answer the fact He is almost at 500 Stolen bases for a Career? 7 Gold Gloves? The Cat is Badd Period.Barry ain't Hiding nothing He said He is done for Testing Recently.and He said that two Players don't make or Break what a Player does.Gary Shieffield doesn't ahve to front for anybody.Gary is a Straight-Up Brother&if He says it's all Legit then it's all Legit.I don't think Barry Bonds has nothing to Hide.He is a Out-spoken brother&they can't stop Him from bringing the Pain.
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Reply #11 posted 08/09/02 12:50am

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You didn't comprehend a thing I said. sigh
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Reply #12 posted 08/09/02 1:28am

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sigh Barry Bon... zzz
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Reply #13 posted 08/09/02 1:32am

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DavidEye said:

You know,I was gonna start this same thread! But I was waiting until I had a complete tracklist and more details.Carlos is being very tight-lipped about this CD,but this is what I've managed to find out...

Partial tracklist---

"Lady Bird Blues" with Cee-Lo
"Fu Fu"
"Novus"
"Aye Aye Aye"
"One Of These Days"
"Manana"
"Love To The People"
"Adouma"
"Victory Is Won"
"Ath Of My Head"
"Truth Don Die"
"Shaman"
"America" with P.O.D.

Guest Artists (rumored to appear!)---

Nelly Furtado
Sting
Marc Anthony
Bob Dylan
Placido Domingo (confirmed)
Ozomatli (confirmed)
Cee-Lo (confirmed)

Other details...

***In a recent issue of Vibe,there was a photo of Carlos with Patti LaBelle and Ja Rule at a post-Grammy party.I'm betting that he asked them to appear on a track!

***The song "Truth Don Die" is really spelled that way.Carlos has been performing many of these songs in concert.

***Rob Thomas of Matchbox Twenty (who wrote and sang on "Smooth") has confirmed that he wrote a few songs,but doesn't actually appear on the album.

***Biggest mystery of all: Will MJ and Prince appear on this CD??




Trying to steer the converstaion back to Carlos Santana...lol...wink
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Reply #14 posted 08/09/02 5:53am

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Carlos will be touring again soon! This leg of the tour is called the "Shaman" tour and will no doubt feature songs from the new CD! I'll be seeing him on October 5th and I can't wait! Here are the tourdates...


9/29/02---Las Vegas,NV
10/1/02---Albuquerque,NM
10/2/02---Phoenix,AZ
10/4/02---Concord,CA
10/5/02---Mountain View,CA
10/8/02---Santa Barbara,CA
10/9/02---Santa Barbara,CA
10/11/02---San Diego,CA
10/12/02---Los Angeles,CA

The opening act will be Ozomatli,who also appear on the new album.There will also be numerous TV appearances around this time.I'll keep you posted.
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Reply #15 posted 08/09/02 7:48am

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BEN AND MATT,

If you are reading this...I think this just reconfirms the orgers need to have a sports forum (per Brother 9/15's thread to you)so we can have interesting, stimulating (LOL)conversation such as the one Supernova and Mistermaxx was just in.

NOW BACK TO THE BUSINESS!!!

OK June 7. Thanks for the thread. This upcoming Santana release should prove to be interesting.
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Reply #16 posted 08/09/02 10:30am

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question Placido Domingo (confirmed) = cheese ?

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Reply #17 posted 08/09/02 10:51am

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BEN AND MATT,

If you are reading this...I think this just reconfirms the orgers need to have a sports forum (per Brother 9/15's thread to you)so we can have interesting, stimulating (LOL)conversation such as the one Supernova and Mistermaxx was just in.

Amen, brutha!

NOW BACK TO THE BUSINESS!!!

OK June 7. Thanks for the thread. This upcoming Santana release should prove to be interesting.

Yep. Interesting in more ways than one. I hope it's nothing like Supernatural.
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Reply #18 posted 08/09/02 11:05am

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I think SUPERNOVA's gotta be the hottest babe around here.
She can talk about sports and music and not get caught
up in the "oooh he's so cute" stuff you usually hear from women.

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Yea, I said it.
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Reply #19 posted 08/09/02 12:44pm

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I think SUPERNOVA's gotta be the hottest babe around here.
She can talk about sports and music and not get caught
up in the "oooh he's so cute" stuff you usually hear from women.

fro

Yea, I said it.

Hehehh. For the record; in person I think Prince is sexy as hell! big grin

But had it not been for his obvious skills I wouldn't have had interest in him for almost 25 years now. There are peaks and valleys of his career, and I had TOTALLY given up on him at one time (when it was obvious he was resting on his laurels artistically). But to me he's proven his mettle once again...

If not for the merits of the music there's nothing to hold my attention for too long.

Oh, thanks for the compliment.

duh
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Reply #20 posted 08/09/02 7:03pm

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I am a new fan to Santana and was wodering which albums would be the best to purchase. I already have "Abraxas","The Best Of Vol's 1 & 2,"Supernatural". What others should i get?
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Reply #21 posted 08/09/02 7:04pm

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classic77 said:

I am a new fan to Santana and was wodering which albums would be the best to purchase. I already have "Abraxas","The Best Of Vol's 1 & 2,"Supernatural". What others should i get?
get the Fillmore one from 69.that was tight.also from 94 the Santana Brothers is Nice as well IMHO.
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Reply #22 posted 08/12/02 12:02am

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classic77 said:

I am a new fan to Santana and was wodering which albums would be the best to purchase. I already have "Abraxas","The Best Of Vol's 1 & 2,"Supernatural". What others should i get?



I have all of Santana's CDs and these are the ones I would recommend to you...


***"Borboletta"(1974)---Santana did his best work in the 70s imo,and this album captures him at the peak of his powers.Songs like "One With The Sun" and "Mirage" will stay in your head long after the CD finishes playing.

***"Festival"(1977)---Like it's title suggests,this CD is alot of fun! At this point,Carlos was into R&B and this album is an eclectic mix of cool Latin rhythms and funky soul workouts.A classic!!

***"Zebop!"(1980)---Carlos entered the 80s decade with this strong,consistent album.Best track? The mesmerizing "Searching" which,amazingly,was never released as a single.

***"Milagro"(1992)---Likewise,Carlos entered the 90s decade with another kickass CD.This is his most satisfying work in years.

***"Sacred Fire"(1993)---A take-no-prisoners live album where Carlos' guitar-playing takes center stage.Highly explosive!!
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Reply #23 posted 08/12/02 6:45am

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PFunkjazz said:

question Placido Domingo (confirmed) = cheese ?

fro


Uh...is that a yea or nay? smile


Here are a few more details about the CD...


***The song "Victory Is Won" is actually an outtake from the unreleased 1996 project called 'Serpents & Doves'.Carlos simply re-worked the tune and it is likely to appear on the new album.

***It's very likely that Aretha Franklin appears on this CD,as well.After all,she has to return the favor.In 1985,Carlos played guitar on HER album 'Who's Zoomin Who' (he appears on the song called "Push").

***The song "America" may NOT appear on the album after all.It seems that the folks at Arista feel that this song is "too heavy" for an album that is otherwise pop.WTF??
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PFunkjazz said:

question Placido Domingo (confirmed) = cheese ?

fro


Uh...is that a yea or nay? smile

It's admittedly a preconception that it will be overproduced pop fluff.
I could be wrong, but since all I have are these preliminary credits
I can't get too excited about it.

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Reply #25 posted 08/12/02 4:20pm

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DavidEye said:

classic77 said:

I am a new fan to Santana and was wodering which albums would be the best to purchase. I already have "Abraxas","The Best Of Vol's 1 & 2,"Supernatural". What others should i get?



I have all of Santana's CDs and these are the ones I would recommend to you...


***"Borboletta"(1974)---Santana did his best work in the 70s imo,and this album captures him at the peak of his powers.Songs like "One With The Sun" and "Mirage" will stay in your head long after the CD finishes playing.

***"Festival"(1977)---Like it's title suggests,this CD is alot of fun! At this point,Carlos was into R&B and this album is an eclectic mix of cool Latin rhythms and funky soul workouts.A classic!!

***"Zebop!"(1980)---Carlos entered the 80s decade with this strong,consistent album.Best track? The mesmerizing "Searching" which,amazingly,was never released as a single.

***"Milagro"(1992)---Likewise,Carlos entered the 90s decade with another kickass CD.This is his most satisfying work in years.

***"Sacred Fire"(1993)---A take-no-prisoners live album where Carlos' guitar-playing takes center stage.Highly explosive!!




Thanks for the suggestions!! HOLLA!!
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Reply #26 posted 08/23/02 3:38am

DavidEye

Just found out a few more tidbits about Santana's new CD...


***There is a song called "Keep It Positive"

***The song "One Of These Days" features the band Ozomatli

So,once again,here is a *TENTATIVE* tracklist...


Santana "Shaman" (Release date October 15,2002)---


"Keep It Positive"
"Lady Bird Blues" (with Cee-Lo)
"Fu Fu"
"Aye Aye Aye"
"One Of These Days" (with Ozomatli)
"Manana"
"Love To The People"
"Adouma"
"Ath Of My Head"
"Truth Don Die"
"America" (with P.O.D.)
"Victory Is Won"
"Shaman"
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Reply #27 posted 08/24/02 12:55am

mistermaxxx

just heard He is gonna do a Song with Michelle Branch? Yikes!!! the Rob Thomas Lucky Stroke can't happen twice?unless Clive is pulling the strings?
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Reply #28 posted 08/26/02 12:38am

DavidEye

mistermaxxx said:

just heard He is gonna do a Song with Michelle Branch? Yikes!!! the Rob Thomas Lucky Stroke can't happen twice?unless Clive is pulling the strings?



Yes,the first single from the album will be "Game Of Love",a collaboration with Michelle Branch.The video has already been shot.So,let's preview the tentative tracklist-

"Keep It Positive"
"Lady Bird Blues" with Cee-Lo
"Game Of Love" with Michelle Branch (FIRST SINGLE!!!)
"Fu Fu"
"Aye Aye Aye"
"One Of These Days (with Ozomatli)
"Manana"
"Love To The People"
"Adouma"
"Ath Of My Head"
"Truth Don Die"
"America" (with P.O.D.)
"Victory Is Won"
"Shaman"

What's funny is,Carlos is trying to keep this news all under wraps,but each day,we find more details...lol...
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Reply #29 posted 08/27/02 3:34am

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The CD release date has changed to October 22.
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