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Reply #60 posted 08/19/06 2:16pm

CinisterCee

Rhondab said:


that chyle is just plain awful. She makes me wanna go buy a Ciara cd...even Ashanti....good grief!


giggle Cassie makes Ashanti look like Patti Labelle.
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Reply #61 posted 08/19/06 2:45pm

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PurpleCharm said:



This performance reminds me of the Junior High Talent show at the school I teach at! lol
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Reply #62 posted 08/19/06 2:47pm

CinisterCee

Cassie's voice is so auto-tuned on the single, it sounded like Cher's vocoder.
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Reply #63 posted 08/19/06 8:13pm

SoulAlive

CinisterCee said:

Rhondab said:


that chyle is just plain awful. She makes me wanna go buy a Ciara cd...even Ashanti....good grief!


giggle Cassie makes Ashanti look like Patti Labelle.


lol
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Reply #64 posted 08/19/06 8:27pm

brownsugar

karmatornado said:

PurpleCharm said:



This performance reminds me of the Junior High Talent show at the school I teach at! lol


its just sad lol
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Reply #65 posted 08/19/06 8:47pm

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It's amazing what you miss when you don't participate... WHO??? confuse
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Reply #66 posted 08/19/06 8:54pm

brownsugar

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It's amazing what you miss when you don't participate... WHO??? confuse


i dont know who the hell she is either. i just looked at her performance and it sucked lol
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Reply #67 posted 08/19/06 8:57pm

CalhounSq

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brownsugar said:

CalhounSq said:

It's amazing what you miss when you don't participate... WHO??? confuse


i dont know who the hell she is either. i just looked at her performance and it sucked lol


Well if it's THAT bad I must find out hmmm


falloff
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Reply #68 posted 08/19/06 8:58pm

brownsugar

CalhounSq said:

brownsugar said:



i dont know who the hell she is either. i just looked at her performance and it sucked lol


Well if it's THAT bad I must find out hmmm


falloff


scroll up and click youtube link
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Reply #69 posted 08/19/06 9:15pm

CalhounSq

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meow85 said:

houtex86 said:

Still the host of the show with their politically correct asses said she "tore the stage up".


Politically correct? confuse

I'm afraid you're guilty of using that term not only as a weird sort of insult but completely out of context. WTF?

I think they simply mean it would be unusual for the hosts of the show not to pretend the artist who just performed did a good job - how often do you see a host tell someone they sucked?

The hosts overcompensated for an embarrassing performance - it was polite but completely dishonest. I believe that's what houtex meant...
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Reply #70 posted 08/19/06 9:20pm

CalhounSq

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TonyVanDam said:

PurpleCharm said:



I sorry, but I couldn't listen to this shyt anymore after the first 2 minutes of this song!


Oh, but you should have - @ about 2:08 two of the background singers look @ each other like WHAT THE FUCK??? falloff

I'm wondering if this girl thought she could just mouth the words & get away w/ this performance? hmmm

She even lets out @ sigh toward the end of the song, like she's just SOOOO tired up there whofarted

She's Ashlee Simpson but with a cute face. The worst part is the audience was bobbing their heads. The problem is dumbass mf's who actually DIG bullshit like this, who can't even recognize real singing/real music when they hear it. It's pretty terrible.

Bizarre performance man... why long to be a singer if you know damn well all you can do is whisper out of tune?? Usually the background singers save a weak frontman/woman but even those bitches sounded awful - were they interns that got yanked from the back office to do this?

You know you're in bad shape when the dj is basically begging you (and your background) to PROJECT already...

rose
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Reply #71 posted 08/19/06 9:27pm

SoulAlive

CalhounSq said:

TonyVanDam said:



I sorry, but I couldn't listen to this shyt anymore after the first 2 minutes of this song!


Oh, but you should have - @ about 2:08 two of the background singers look @ each other like WHAT THE FUCK??? falloff

I'm wondering if this girl thought she could just mouth the words & get away w/ this performance? hmmm

She even lets out @ sigh toward the end of the song, like she's just SOOOO tired up there whofarted

She's Ashlee Simpson but with a cute face. The worst part is the audience was bobbing their heads. The problem is dumbass mf's who actually DIG bullshit like this, who can't even recognize real singing/real music when they hear it. It's pretty terrible.

Bizarre performance man... why long to be a singer if you know damn well all you can do is whisper out of tune?? Usually the background singers save a weak frontman/woman but even those bitches sounded awful - were they interns that got yanked from the back office to do this?

You know you're in bad shape when the dj is basically begging you (and your background) to PROJECT already...

rose


nod that performance was embarassing for all involved
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Reply #72 posted 08/20/06 11:02am

Rhondab

I don't think the background singers mics were even on :ee:


her "career" is over.

make we wanna go watch a ciara video.....or janet..lol
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Reply #73 posted 08/20/06 3:10pm

babynoz

CalhounSq said:

TonyVanDam said:



I sorry, but I couldn't listen to this shyt anymore after the first 2 minutes of this song!


Oh, but you should have - @ about 2:08 two of the background singers look @ each other like WHAT THE FUCK??? falloff

I'm wondering if this girl thought she could just mouth the words & get away w/ this performance? hmmm

She even lets out @ sigh toward the end of the song, like she's just SOOOO tired up there whofarted

She's Ashlee Simpson but with a cute face. The worst part is the audience was bobbing their heads. The problem is dumbass mf's who actually DIG bullshit like this, who can't even recognize real singing/real music when they hear it. It's pretty terrible.

Bizarre performance man... why long to be a singer if you know damn well all you can do is whisper out of tune?? Usually the background singers save a weak frontman/woman but even those bitches sounded awful - were they interns that got yanked from the back office to do this?

You know you're in bad shape when the dj is basically begging you (and your background) to PROJECT already...

rose




lol

I know we're preaching to the choir here but it still feels good don't it?

Anyhoo, another aspect of this whole thing is the fact that there has been a general dumbing down in society and pop culture for several years now. We have to realize that us old skoolers and "snobs" as someone above put it, are no longer the target audience. One reason being that we know what time it is. Another reason is because these moguls are after younger, more vulnerable minds who have more disposable income.

They'll buy whatever shallow image or message is being sold to them because they don't know any better.

The suits are fully aware that out time, money and attention is tied up in things like work, bills, raising families and other issues. They also know that we're more discerning, which makes us much harder fish to hook for a businessman whose only concern is the bottom line.

Compare Prince to NeYo. Who's going to demand more artistic freedom and a bigger piece of the $$ pie? Look at their respective demographics. A guy who's nearly 50 with a loyal fanbase, but with a few exceptions, the majority of our resources are committed elsewhere. NeYo, on the other hand is a disposable talent for his peers with more disposable income, Both can be replaced in a few years time by the next big thing. It's a profitable formula for the suits.

So who you think is gonna get the airtime? These people don't care one wit who's more talented and haven't for a long time. It's all about who's more gullible at this stage of the game, because artists who are older and wiser cut too much into their profits.

So unless we find an effective way to educate younger consumers the downward spiral will continue because in this youth oriented market they don't give a crap what older consumers or artists think. They'll continue to appease us by giving out the occasional lifetime achievement award and that'll be the end of it.

Personally, I take my sons, their friends, my young co-workers and anybody else who will stand still long enough and drag their asses to old skool shows. I buy them cds and whatnot also. Anytime I hear them touting some song that shamelessly samples the original artist, I make damn sure I bring the original recording to their attention.

They think I'm cool. lol
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Reply #74 posted 08/20/06 3:39pm

Duggs

babynoz said:

CalhounSq said:



Oh, but you should have - @ about 2:08 two of the background singers look @ each other like WHAT THE FUCK??? falloff

I'm wondering if this girl thought she could just mouth the words & get away w/ this performance? hmmm

She even lets out @ sigh toward the end of the song, like she's just SOOOO tired up there whofarted

She's Ashlee Simpson but with a cute face. The worst part is the audience was bobbing their heads. The problem is dumbass mf's who actually DIG bullshit like this, who can't even recognize real singing/real music when they hear it. It's pretty terrible.

Bizarre performance man... why long to be a singer if you know damn well all you can do is whisper out of tune?? Usually the background singers save a weak frontman/woman but even those bitches sounded awful - were they interns that got yanked from the back office to do this?

You know you're in bad shape when the dj is basically begging you (and your background) to PROJECT already...

rose




lol

I know we're preaching to the choir here but it still feels good don't it?

Anyhoo, another aspect of this whole thing is the fact that there has been a general dumbing down in society and pop culture for several years now. We have to realize that us old skoolers and "snobs" as someone above put it, are no longer the target audience. One reason being that we know what time it is. Another reason is because these moguls are after younger, more vulnerable minds who have more disposable income.

They'll buy whatever shallow image or message is being sold to them because they don't know any better.

The suits are fully aware that out time, money and attention is tied up in things like work, bills, raising families and other issues. They also know that we're more discerning, which makes us much harder fish to hook for a businessman whose only concern is the bottom line.

Compare Prince to NeYo. Who's going to demand more artistic freedom and a bigger piece of the $$ pie? Look at their respective demographics. A guy who's nearly 50 with a loyal fanbase, but with a few exceptions, the majority of our resources are committed elsewhere. NeYo, on the other hand is a disposable talent for his peers with more disposable income, Both can be replaced in a few years time by the next big thing. It's a profitable formula for the suits.

So who you think is gonna get the airtime? These people don't care one wit who's more talented and haven't for a long time. It's all about who's more gullible at this stage of the game, because artists who are older and wiser cut too much into their profits.

So unless we find an effective way to educate younger consumers the downward spiral will continue because in this youth oriented market they don't give a crap what older consumers or artists think. They'll continue to appease us by giving out the occasional lifetime achievement award and that'll be the end of it.

Personally, I take my sons, their friends, my young co-workers and anybody else who will stand still long enough and drag their asses to old skool shows. I buy them cds and whatnot also. Anytime I hear them touting some song that shamelessly samples the original artist, I make damn sure I bring the original recording to their attention.

They think I'm cool. lol



Feels real good, keep holding on to that torch and leading the blind to the light.

excellent post!!!!!
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Reply #75 posted 08/20/06 4:34pm

MajesticOne89

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CalhounSq said:

The worst part is the audience was bobbing their heads. The problem is dumbass mf's who actually DIG bullshit like this, who can't even recognize real singing/real music when they hear it. It's pretty terrible.


There lies the problem. The majority of the CD buyers today are the dubasses who are into this shit. And as long as the record lables, producers, artists etc., can make money off of the crap that sells today, its not going to stop.
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Reply #76 posted 08/20/06 4:49pm

lilgish

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did everyone catch Princess of Next Selection falloff
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Reply #77 posted 08/20/06 5:24pm

Dayspring

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I must really be getting out of the loop as I get older. I'm only vaguely aware of the girl and her song (I think I've seen the video twice). I had no idea the entire world was in an uproar over a 106 & Park performance.
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Reply #78 posted 08/20/06 5:27pm

CalhounSq

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Duggs said:

babynoz said:





lol

I know we're preaching to the choir here but it still feels good don't it?

Anyhoo, another aspect of this whole thing is the fact that there has been a general dumbing down in society and pop culture for several years now. We have to realize that us old skoolers and "snobs" as someone above put it, are no longer the target audience. One reason being that we know what time it is. Another reason is because these moguls are after younger, more vulnerable minds who have more disposable income.

They'll buy whatever shallow image or message is being sold to them because they don't know any better.

The suits are fully aware that out time, money and attention is tied up in things like work, bills, raising families and other issues. They also know that we're more discerning, which makes us much harder fish to hook for a businessman whose only concern is the bottom line.

Compare Prince to NeYo. Who's going to demand more artistic freedom and a bigger piece of the $$ pie? Look at their respective demographics. A guy who's nearly 50 with a loyal fanbase, but with a few exceptions, the majority of our resources are committed elsewhere. NeYo, on the other hand is a disposable talent for his peers with more disposable income, Both can be replaced in a few years time by the next big thing. It's a profitable formula for the suits.

So who you think is gonna get the airtime? These people don't care one wit who's more talented and haven't for a long time. It's all about who's more gullible at this stage of the game, because artists who are older and wiser cut too much into their profits.

So unless we find an effective way to educate younger consumers the downward spiral will continue because in this youth oriented market they don't give a crap what older consumers or artists think. They'll continue to appease us by giving out the occasional lifetime achievement award and that'll be the end of it.

Personally, I take my sons, their friends, my young co-workers and anybody else who will stand still long enough and drag their asses to old skool shows. I buy them cds and whatnot also. Anytime I hear them touting some song that shamelessly samples the original artist, I make damn sure I bring the original recording to their attention.

They think I'm cool. lol



Feels real good, keep holding on to that torch and leading the blind to the light.

excellent post!!!!!


2 times - great post thumbs up!
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Reply #79 posted 08/20/06 5:56pm

babynoz

CalhounSq said:

Duggs said:




Feels real good, keep holding on to that torch and leading the blind to the light.

excellent post!!!!!


2 times - great post thumbs up!




We gotta fight the powers that be! cool
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Reply #80 posted 08/20/06 6:03pm

TonyVanDam

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babynoz said:

CalhounSq said:



Oh, but you should have - @ about 2:08 two of the background singers look @ each other like WHAT THE FUCK??? falloff

I'm wondering if this girl thought she could just mouth the words & get away w/ this performance? hmmm

She even lets out @ sigh toward the end of the song, like she's just SOOOO tired up there whofarted

She's Ashlee Simpson but with a cute face. The worst part is the audience was bobbing their heads. The problem is dumbass mf's who actually DIG bullshit like this, who can't even recognize real singing/real music when they hear it. It's pretty terrible.

Bizarre performance man... why long to be a singer if you know damn well all you can do is whisper out of tune?? Usually the background singers save a weak frontman/woman but even those bitches sounded awful - were they interns that got yanked from the back office to do this?

You know you're in bad shape when the dj is basically begging you (and your background) to PROJECT already...

rose




lol

I know we're preaching to the choir here but it still feels good don't it?

Anyhoo, another aspect of this whole thing is the fact that there has been a general dumbing down in society and pop culture for several years now. We have to realize that us old skoolers and "snobs" as someone above put it, are no longer the target audience. One reason being that we know what time it is. Another reason is because these moguls are after younger, more vulnerable minds who have more disposable income.

They'll buy whatever shallow image or message is being sold to them because they don't know any better.

The suits are fully aware that out time, money and attention is tied up in things like work, bills, raising families and other issues. They also know that we're more discerning, which makes us much harder fish to hook for a businessman whose only concern is the bottom line.

Compare Prince to NeYo. Who's going to demand more artistic freedom and a bigger piece of the $$ pie? Look at their respective demographics. A guy who's nearly 50 with a loyal fanbase, but with a few exceptions, the majority of our resources are committed elsewhere. NeYo, on the other hand is a disposable talent for his peers with more disposable income, Both can be replaced in a few years time by the next big thing. It's a profitable formula for the suits.

So who you think is gonna get the airtime? These people don't care one wit who's more talented and haven't for a long time. It's all about who's more gullible at this stage of the game, because artists who are older and wiser cut too much into their profits.

So unless we find an effective way to educate younger consumers the downward spiral will continue because in this youth oriented market they don't give a crap what older consumers or artists think. They'll continue to appease us by giving out the occasional lifetime achievement award and that'll be the end of it.

Personally, I take my sons, their friends, my young co-workers and anybody else who will stand still long enough and drag their asses to old skool shows. I buy them cds and whatnot also. Anytime I hear them touting some song that shamelessly samples the original artist, I make damn sure I bring the original recording to their attention.

They think I'm cool. lol


Old-school is STILL the best school. Those young beatmakers are still sampling/copying the 70's & 80's because they know good and well that the music of our older/wiser generation is the standard that they wish to be measure to. Hell, they even getting software versions of those classic synths in order to recreate those sounds.
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Reply #81 posted 08/20/06 8:28pm

silverandgold

TonyVanDam said:

babynoz said:





lol

I know we're preaching to the choir here but it still feels good don't it?

Anyhoo, another aspect of this whole thing is the fact that there has been a general dumbing down in society and pop culture for several years now. We have to realize that us old skoolers and "snobs" as someone above put it, are no longer the target audience. One reason being that we know what time it is. Another reason is because these moguls are after younger, more vulnerable minds who have more disposable income.

They'll buy whatever shallow image or message is being sold to them because they don't know any better.

The suits are fully aware that out time, money and attention is tied up in things like work, bills, raising families and other issues. They also know that we're more discerning, which makes us much harder fish to hook for a businessman whose only concern is the bottom line.

Compare Prince to NeYo. Who's going to demand more artistic freedom and a bigger piece of the $$ pie? Look at their respective demographics. A guy who's nearly 50 with a loyal fanbase, but with a few exceptions, the majority of our resources are committed elsewhere. NeYo, on the other hand is a disposable talent for his peers with more disposable income, Both can be replaced in a few years time by the next big thing. It's a profitable formula for the suits.

So who you think is gonna get the airtime? These people don't care one wit who's more talented and haven't for a long time. It's all about who's more gullible at this stage of the game, because artists who are older and wiser cut too much into their profits.

So unless we find an effective way to educate younger consumers the downward spiral will continue because in this youth oriented market they don't give a crap what older consumers or artists think. They'll continue to appease us by giving out the occasional lifetime achievement award and that'll be the end of it.

Personally, I take my sons, their friends, my young co-workers and anybody else who will stand still long enough and drag their asses to old skool shows. I buy them cds and whatnot also. Anytime I hear them touting some song that shamelessly samples the original artist, I make damn sure I bring the original recording to their attention.

They think I'm cool. lol


Old-school is STILL the best school. Those young beatmakers are still sampling/copying the 70's & 80's because they know good and well that the music of our older/wiser generation is the standard that they wish to be measure to. Hell, they even getting software versions of those classic synths in order to recreate those sounds.


Well, I think you two just nipped it in the bud! good posts.
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Reply #82 posted 08/20/06 8:42pm

uPtoWnNY

TonyVanDam said:

Old-school is STILL the best school. Those young beatmakers are still sampling/copying the 70's & 80's because they know good and well that the music of our older/wiser generation is the standard that they wish to be measure to. Hell, they even getting software versions of those classic synths in order to recreate those sounds.



HELL YEAH!

When I majored in art design in college, I had to study the old masters. Today's so-called "singers" need to do the same thing.
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Reply #83 posted 08/20/06 9:17pm

ThePunisher

The industry is all about making money rather then making good music. No one is really being allowed to be creative anymore. Pop Radio is even worse now then it was when the Backstreet Boys, N'Sync and the Spice Girls ruled the charts. The industry will keep on pumping out no -talents like Cassie. Unless someone puts an end to it.
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Reply #84 posted 08/21/06 2:23am

meow85

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CalhounSq said:

meow85 said:



Politically correct? confuse

I'm afraid you're guilty of using that term not only as a weird sort of insult but completely out of context. WTF?

I think they simply mean it would be unusual for the hosts of the show not to pretend the artist who just performed did a good job - how often do you see a host tell someone they sucked?

The hosts overcompensated for an embarrassing performance - it was polite but completely dishonest. I believe that's what houtex meant...


Well in that case I see what they meant...
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Reply #85 posted 08/21/06 2:37am

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ThePunisher said:

The industry is all about making money rather then making good music. No one is really being allowed to be creative anymore. Pop Radio is even worse now then it was when the Backstreet Boys, N'Sync and the Spice Girls ruled the charts. The industry will keep on pumping out no -talents like Cassie. Unless someone puts an end to it.


Think what you want about the boybands and girlgroups of the late 90's, but here's something can be said for them: Damn few ever lipsynched and though none of the acts could have been accused of having extreme talent, most at least had decent voices and could carry a tune. They also knew how to handle themselves in front of a camera or in an interview and not come across as middle school talent show rejects. That can't be said for a lot of the hot young acts out right now.
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Reply #86 posted 08/21/06 4:09am

SoulAlive

MajesticOne89 said:

CalhounSq said:

The worst part is the audience was bobbing their heads. The problem is dumbass mf's who actually DIG bullshit like this, who can't even recognize real singing/real music when they hear it. It's pretty terrible.


There lies the problem. The majority of the CD buyers today are the dubasses who are into this shit. And as long as the record lables, producers, artists etc., can make money off of the crap that sells today, its not going to stop.



Don't you just wanna shake these young kids and scream at them: "WHY DO YOU LIKE THIS CRAP?? DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT REAL MUSIC IS??!!" lol
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Reply #87 posted 08/21/06 1:41pm

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SoulAlive said:

MajesticOne89 said:



There lies the problem. The majority of the CD buyers today are the dubasses who are into this shit. And as long as the record lables, producers, artists etc., can make money off of the crap that sells today, its not going to stop.



Don't you just wanna shake these young kids and scream at them: "WHY DO YOU LIKE THIS CRAP?? DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT REAL MUSIC IS??!!" lol


Pretty much lol I'm always amazed @ what my little cousins/nieces are listening to whofarted
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Reply #88 posted 08/21/06 2:43pm

chewwsey

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[Edited 8/22/06 10:13am]
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Reply #89 posted 08/21/06 2:44pm

chewwsey

I think that ashanti can sing. jmo
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