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PrintableLuxuryBrown said: mattperry said: yeah, typing too quick, made a typo: I'm at work and can't get busted on the internet! [Edited 8/15/06 17:07pm] Uh. Yeah. Right. If you write for a music mag and work for a big entertainment company, then being on the internet is VERY NORMAL considering the enterainment info that's available on the net, trust me on that. Try again. not here. It's OK If I use the internet to research for actors, etc. But prince.org is a bit of a violation  | |
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mattperry said: ladygirl99 said: Calling someone an idiot yet mispelled cannot and also failed to read this thread title's before responding in the first place. So who is the idiot now? Ummm. it's called a typo. You sure do have a lot of simple typos for a "writer." ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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mattperry said: LuxuryBrown said: Uh. Yeah. Right. If you write for a music mag and work for a big entertainment company, then being on the internet is VERY NORMAL considering the enterainment info that's available on the net, trust me on that. Try again. not here. It's OK If I use the internet to research for actors, etc. But prince.org is a bit of a violation  ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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LuxuryBrown said: mattperry said: Ummm. it's called a typo. You sure do have a lot of simple typos for a "writer." I don't have the time to sit here spell checking everything when I'm typing like, really, really fast. You might. You don't seem to have a life. [Edited 8/15/06 17:21pm] | |
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LuxuryBrown said: mattperry said: not here. It's OK If I use the internet to research for actors, etc. But prince.org is a bit of a violation Yeah, I write and make films. I know: it's a hard concept to grab. | |
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ladygirl99 said: mattperry said: PUH-LEEEAASSE! Legends are people like: Little Richard Elvis Presley Bob Dylan Miles Davis The Who KISS Prince Parliament Nirvana/Kurt Cobain Alice Cooper Frank Zappa etc etc etc people who DID SOMETHING that changed the course of music. [Edited 8/15/06 15:58pm] Well I don't consider Bob Dylan, Kiss, Elvis PRestley or Alice Cooper and Frank Zappa to be legends imho. That based on ur personal taste. Anyway the artists that I listed weren't only popular mainstream but had bestselling records of the 90s and deserved their props. Anyway, reread this thread, this is about whether there are any legends of the 90s or not. The artists that you listed, other than Nivana and Kurt Cobain and Prince, aren't qualify as legend of the 90s since they weren't making any albums. Since it seems like that you don't know too much about the 90s music, which I grew up on, you aren't qualify for this discussion and you aren't worth replying to. Next. Um, I can deal with Kiss not being among your legends...But Bob dylan, that dude is beyond a legend; he's an icon...and Elvis Presley, as overrated as he is, definitely fits the legend mode...It's not about whether or not you like an artist; it's about respecting the contributions of certain artists, here are a few.. As far as '90s legends are concerned: Whitney Houston Nirvana Tupac OutKast R. Kelly Radiohead Mariah Carey Dr. Dre Those are the only folks I can think of at the moment..... | |
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mattperry said: LuxuryBrown said: Yeah, I write and make films. I know: it's a hard concept to grab. I'm not checking back with this thread, it looks like you two clowns are trying to bait me into an argument. I'm moving on, now. Goodbye. | |
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mattperry said: You considered Elvis PRestley to be a legend? Shiiit. Are you talking about the same man who ripped off his music from black artists?
Yes. Otis Blackwell was the real legend here, but not an icon - nobody knows him. Elvis was the first to make 'cross-over' music. Yet you claimed your definition of a legend is someone who changes the course of music? Elvis innovative? HAHA what a laugh. See above, idiot. Who are you kidding here buddy? Also Parliment were one of the earliest funk bands I don't consider them to be legend as a course of change music, but if you are going to talk innovation here then James Brown was the one that started funk yet you don't even have the man on your so-called legend list. He would be in the etc etc part. I didn't list EVERYBODY. I have limited time at the moment, I just listed enough so you would get the point, but appantly you were too dumb. You sure that you used to write for a music magazine? Yes. Oh, wait - maybe I think I'm somebody else? No, I mean yes. Get a life, little boy. Also, do you really think you can't tell the difference between sounds of genres like one of those meathead metal fans? Are you really that much of an uncultured oaf? [Edited 8/15/06 17:13pm] So you saying that Elvis is a legend because he crossover to mainstream first? What about Fat Domino and Chuck Berry? They crossover before Elvis. Elvis is so overrated. You seemed to know less about some important music history for being a former music journalist. And by the way you better be glad that they have rules on here otherwise I would be calling you worst names than you called me and you would be running home crying on your momma's shoulders afterwards. 
BTW I am not a little boy and you should thought about that before you said it. [Edited 8/15/06 23:58pm] | |
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mattperry said: mattperry said: Yeah, I write and make films. I know: it's a hard concept to grab. I'm not checking back with this thread, it looks like you two clowns are trying to bait me into an argument. I'm moving on, now. Goodbye. Bye bye and you surely will be remembered.  Don't let the door hit you on your way out, child. Come back once you are qualify enough to join a grown folks conversation.
Also next time think twice before you try to start something that you can't finish. You are going to expect people to challenge your posts on here and if you can't take heat then don't reply. Simple as 123. Good luck with your small-time film career because I know in this biz you won't get very far with typos and too weak to take criticism.  [Edited 8/16/06 0:08am] | |
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murph said: ladygirl99 said: Well I don't consider Bob Dylan, Kiss, Elvis PRestley or Alice Cooper and Frank Zappa to be legends imho. That based on ur personal taste. Anyway the artists that I listed weren't only popular mainstream but had bestselling records of the 90s and deserved their props. Anyway, reread this thread, this is about whether there are any legends of the 90s or not. The artists that you listed, other than Nivana and Kurt Cobain and Prince, aren't qualify as legend of the 90s since they weren't making any albums. Since it seems like that you don't know too much about the 90s music, which I grew up on, you aren't qualify for this discussion and you aren't worth replying to. Next. Um, I can deal with Kiss not being among your legends...But Bob dylan, that dude is beyond a legend; he's an icon...and Elvis Presley, as overrated as he is, definitely fits the legend mode...It's not about whether or not you like an artist; it's about respecting the contributions of certain artists, here are a few.. As far as '90s legends are concerned: Whitney Houston Nirvana Tupac OutKast R. Kelly Radiohead Mariah Carey Dr. Dre Those are the only folks I can think of at the moment..... I have more respect for some of the greatest rock n roll legends like Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Fat Domino, and others of that period. As far as Elvis Prestley.. forget about it. I agreed with you about Dr. Dre. I also added Timberland too because he is a legend too along with Missy Elliot had created some of their own innovated sounds in the mid-90s. | |
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TonyVanDam said: EDIT: This is a spin-off from another thread. So bear with me please!
The only legends of the 1990's (so far) are Nirvana (only 2 career albums), R.Kelly (12 Play is classic, IMO), Shania Twain (biggest contempary country artist ever), Garth Brooks (the 2nd biggest comtemporary country artist ever), Celine Dion (WTF...I know!), Boyz II Men (only for their first 2 albums), MC Hammer (one of hip-pop's biggest stars) & 2pac (the most success living & dead rap artist of the 90's). THIS isn't a great new chapter in music history so far. Sorry! EDIT: Mariah Carey is the 90's biggest Icon. [Edited 8/15/06 15:12pm] ...You might be right about the 90's, seems nobody wants to talk about it. I agree with your list, though. It seems like music became so big, so variegated, that individual 'legends' are superseded by music becoming immensely variegated...Country became huge, HipHop became mainstream, Rock was 'deconstructed'. There's plenty to love about the 90's, but it feels (mebbe because I'm an old-timer) like about as many legends were born in the 90's as there were coming to light in 1984... bc "I got the devil in me, girl." - 'John the Baptist', Afghan Whigs
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you guys forgot all about janet jackson... but its cause during the 90's she only released two albums.. not including design of a decade which is just a collection of her 80's hits... but i thought janet was a icon on the 90's too... |
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Here's who I list as legends of the 1990s:
From the 1990's: Nirvana Tupac Shakur Mariah Carey Biggie Smalls Garth Brooks Pearl Jam Alanis Morissette TLC Dr. Dre Wu-Tang Clan Jay-Z Nas Sean "Puffy, Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Diddy" Combs (YES, I SAID IT! This man is definitely a musical legend of the 1990's; whether it is for crap or all the wrong reasons is another debate.) From the 1980s but either blew up in the 1990's or extended their status from the 1980's: U2 R.E.M. Janet Jackson Metallica Guns 'N Roses Whitney Houston  | |
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728huey said: Here's who I list as legends of the 1990s:
From the 1990's: Nirvana Tupac Shakur Mariah Carey Biggie Smalls Garth Brooks Pearl Jam Alanis Morissette TLC Dr. Dre Wu-Tang Clan Jay-Z Nas Sean "Puffy, Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Diddy" Combs (YES, I SAID IT! This man is definitely a musical legend of the 1990's; whether it is for crap or all the wrong reasons is another debate.) From the 1980s but either blew up in the 1990's or extended their status from the 1980's: U2 R.E.M. Janet Jackson Metallica Guns 'N Roses Whitney Houston Does Madonna count? | |
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who do you guys think was the biggest lengend from the 90's... i dont really know.. cause i wasnt allowed to listen to the radio until may like 97... and i wasnt allowed to watch music videos... and the only artist i knew about was michael jackson... so in my mind he's the biggest lengend of the 90's... |
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TonyVanDam said: 728huey said:
Here's who I list as legends of the 1990s:
From the 1990's: Nirvana Tupac Shakur Mariah Carey Biggie Smalls Garth Brooks Pearl Jam Alanis Morissette TLC Dr. Dre Wu-Tang Clan Jay-Z Nas Sean "Puffy, Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Diddy" Combs (YES, I SAID IT! This man is definitely a musical legend of the 1990's; whether it is for crap or all the wrong reasons is another debate.) From the 1980s but either blew up in the 1990's or extended their status from the 1980's: U2 R.E.M. Janet Jackson Metallica Guns 'N Roses Whitney Houston Does Madonna count? Come to think of it, there's no reason why she shouldn't be listed as a 90s legend. She had one of her biggest hits in the 90s ("Vogue"), her most controversial album (Erotica), her most critically acclaimed album (Ray of Light), and her most eclectic album (Bedtime Stories). BTW, I also forgot Shania Twain as a 90s legend too. | |
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mattperry said: LuxuryBrown said: You sure do have a lot of simple typos for a "writer." I don't have the time to sit here spell checking everything when I'm typing like, really, really fast. You might. You don't seem to have a life. [Edited 8/15/06 17:21pm] So, you're up to what, about 6 words a minute now over there in your big, fancy entertainment industry office? Watch what you say around here, because some of us REALLY are in the entertainment field so we'll know if your full of feces or not.  ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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mattperry said: LuxuryBrown said: Yeah, I write and make films. I know: it's a hard concept to grab. Sorry 'bout that, Mr. Spielberg. My bad. Carry on.  ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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mattperry said: mattperry said: Yeah, I write and make films. I know: it's a hard concept to grab. I'm not checking back with this thread, it looks like you two clowns are trying to bait me into an argument. I'm moving on, now. Goodbye. Well damn. This place will never be the same without you, Mr. Spielberg. Good luck on your next cinematic masterpiece. ~This brown experience made me the man that I was meant to be~
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ladygirl99 said: murph said: Um, I can deal with Kiss not being among your legends...But Bob dylan, that dude is beyond a legend; he's an icon...and Elvis Presley, as overrated as he is, definitely fits the legend mode...It's not about whether or not you like an artist; it's about respecting the contributions of certain artists, here are a few.. As far as '90s legends are concerned: Whitney Houston Nirvana Tupac OutKast R. Kelly Radiohead Mariah Carey Dr. Dre Those are the only folks I can think of at the moment..... I have more respect for some of the greatest rock n roll legends like Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Fat Domino, and others of that period. As far as Elvis Prestley.. forget about it. I agreed with you about Dr. Dre. I also added Timberland too because he is a legend too along with Missy Elliot had created some of their own innovated sounds in the mid-90s. Oh...we are talking about something totally different here....People that know their history will tell you that Elvis overshadowed Chuck Berry and Little Richard largely because of the color of his skin...We all know that...hence my statement of the man being overrated...But that doesn't take anything away from his contributions in the late '50s...Again, he's a legend...Just not the end-all to-be-all like some folks tend to place him...Almost every rock n roll pioneer in the late '50s were legends...The problem for me happens when they start calling dude the King Of Rock N Roll...But that's another story... | |
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murph said: ladygirl99 said: I have more respect for some of the greatest rock n roll legends like Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Fat Domino, and others of that period. As far as Elvis Prestley.. forget about it. I agreed with you about Dr. Dre. I also added Timberland too because he is a legend too along with Missy Elliot had created some of their own innovated sounds in the mid-90s. Oh...we are talking about something totally different here....People that know their history will tell you that Elvis overshadowed Chuck Berry and Little Richard largely because of the color of his skin...We all know that...hence my statement of the man being overrated...But that doesn't take anything away from his contributions in the late '50s...Again, he's a legend...Just not the end-all to-be-all like some folks tend to place him...Almost every rock n roll pioneer in the late '50s were legends...The problem for me happens when they start calling dude the King Of Rock N Roll...But that's another story... Im awared of how black musicians fought racism back in the 50s but that isn't really the sole reason why I consider some of black rockers of the 50s legends. I give highly props and more respect to people like Chuck Berry, Fat Domino, etc because they were the ones innovented rock n roll and they can be black, blue, or green but they were the true innovators of that time. And also they were the ones who crossover first despite what another poster said about Elvis being the first one to crossover. [Edited 8/15/06 23:18pm] | |
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mattperry said: ladygirl99 said: TLC and Mary J Blige
112 Biggie Smalls Missy Elliot Aaliyah [Edited 8/15/06 15:50pm] Nirvana/Kurt Cobain people who DID SOMETHING that changed the course of music. People, people, for god's sake stop fucking worshipping the pile of overrated turd that is Nirvana. I mean seriously, they are the most overrated band ever and do NOT deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as true legends. I have actually had the (dis)pleasure of listening to one of their albums fully through, when one of girlfriend's friends played it over at my girlfriend's house....  ... seriously...
I've never heard such turd before in my life. Luckily, I don't have to listen to them... EVER AGAIN. Thank you. It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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mattperry said: ladygirl99 said: Wow what a weakarse response. Care to explain?a Legend is an artist who did something to change the course of music: they evolved the art form. All those artists you mentioned just worked within their genre's already established boundaries. Kurt Cobain broke out a new genre: GRUNGE. That's legendary worthy. Also, Nirvana came from the 80's, but made it big in the 90's. Other bands who may qualify since Nirvana to come from the 90's but make it big in the 00's are The White Stripes and Dandy Warhols. [Edited 8/15/06 16:12pm] How Grunge is a new form of music? I see it as a comtemporary form of Punk music, the last chapter of a music that pre existed Grunge,they called it grunge but they might as well have called it Rock. [Edited 8/15/06 23:21pm] | |
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Michael Jackson, Kurt Cobain, Bill Clinton Seriously, didn't they have We Love the 90s on VH-1? I bet they covered this stuff. As far as one single person, I doubt it. But if I had to pick one, I'd go with Kurt Cobain. (And I really am not a big Nirvana fan by any means.) | |
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FuNkeNsteiN said: mattperry said: Nirvana/Kurt Cobain people who DID SOMETHING that changed the course of music. People, people, for god's sake stop fucking worshipping the pile of overrated turd that is Nirvana. I mean seriously, they are the most overrated band ever and do NOT deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as true legends. I have actually had the (dis)pleasure of listening to one of their albums fully through, when one of girlfriend's friends played it over at my girlfriend's house.... ... seriously...
I've never heard such turd before in my life. Luckily, I don't have to listen to them... EVER AGAIN. Thank you. (this is funny in its context)
This reminds me of the controverisal list of top 100 most important songs ever. Nirvana's Swell Like Teen Spirit was voted #1 (WTF was EXACTLY what crossed my mind)! A lot of Prince fans were very piss at thr result of the poll where Purple Rain was #5. Hell, even Howard Stein was outrage by the result and fell that PR should have been #1. | |
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FuNkeNsteiN said: People, people, for god's sake stop fucking worshipping the pile of overrated turd that is Nirvana. I mean seriously, they are the most overrated band ever and do NOT deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as true legends. I have actually had the (dis)pleasure of listening to one of their albums fully through, when one of girlfriend's friends played it over at my girlfriend's house.... ... seriously...
I've never heard such turd before in my life. Luckily, I don't have to listen to them... EVER AGAIN. Thank you. Dag, FuNkeNsteiN . . . there must have been a sale this week! 
You've been getting after some folk lately. Just joking.
But even if you're right, Nirvana fits the definition of "legend," which is One that inspires legends or achieves legendary fame.
source: http://dictionary.referen...wse/legend Nirvana has done both, even if they inspired the legend that they are a "great" band. You may think it's false, I may think it's true. But when people talk about 90's music from now on Nirvana will be among the first names to drip from lips.  Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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i freakin' LOVE nirvana, and anyone who can look beyond the hype and the cult of personality will agree that they made some great pop songs with some of the most honest, clever, interesting lyrics of the time. if you can't hear the beauty in a song like "all aplogies" - even just for a beautifully WTF line like "aqua foam sea shame" - then i don't know what else to tell ya. | |
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namepeace said: FuNkeNsteiN said: People, people, for god's sake stop fucking worshipping the pile of overrated turd that is Nirvana. I mean seriously, they are the most overrated band ever and do NOT deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as true legends. I have actually had the (dis)pleasure of listening to one of their albums fully through, when one of girlfriend's friends played it over at my girlfriend's house.... ... seriously...
I've never heard such turd before in my life. Luckily, I don't have to listen to them... EVER AGAIN. Thank you. Dag, FuNkeNsteiN . . . there must have been a sale this week!
You've been getting after some folk lately. Just joking.
But even if you're right, Nirvana fits the definition of "legend," which is One that inspires legends or achieves legendary fame.
source: http://dictionary.referen...wse/legend Nirvana has done both, even if they inspired the legend that they are a "great" band. You may think it's false, I may think it's true. But when people talk about 90's music from now on Nirvana will be among the first names to drip from lips. It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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Nine Inch Nails i.e. Trent Reznor
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