EDIT: This is a spin-off from another thread. So bear with me please!

The only legends of the 1990's (so far) are Nirvana (only 2 career albums), R.Kelly (12 Play is classic, IMO), Shania Twain (biggest contempary country artist ever), Garth Brooks (the 2nd biggest comtemporary country artist ever), Celine Dion (WTF...I know!), Boyz II Men (only for their first 2 albums), MC Hammer (one of hip-pop's biggest stars) & 2pac (the most success living & dead rap artist of the 90's).

THIS isn't a great new chapter in music history so far. Sorry!

EDIT: Mariah Carey is the 90's biggest Icon.
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to paraphrase a legendary president of the '90s, "how do you define 'legend'?"

TonyVanDam said:

You forgot Mariah and Whitney.

Anx said:

Bill Clinton is the 90's only true legend. And he never release THAT jazz album yet!

LuxuryBrown said:

I edit my post. Thanks!

TonyVanDam said:

The 90's sucked! Mariah is the only legend!

TonyVanDam said:

i think courtney love is a fitting icon of the '90s.

Anx said:

sosgemini said:

that picture is SO photoshopped. her mouth isn't NEARLY that small!

TonyVanDam said:

The only legend in the true sense from the 90's is Kurt Cobain. He was the last "rock star" (so far anyway). He changed the music landscape. No one had done that since... probably Prince/Michael Jackson in the early to mid 80s.

Aint no-body done anything innovative enough to change the musical landscape since.
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mattperry said:

With or without Nirvana?
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TonyVanDam said:

I'd say without. The Nirvana songs were his songs anyway. Get a hold of his demos and it's all there, and it's just him and a guitar. He made rock potent again, and even people were playing this on the street (Andre3000 says it's one of his favourite albums). Dave Grohl added something, but it was the passion, honesty and raw emotion in Kurt that people connected with.

TLC and Mary J Blige
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Biggie Smalls
Missy Elliot
Aaliyah
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TonyVanDam said:

HELL-TO-THE-YEAH!!!! I miss him!!!

ladygirl99 said:

PUH-LEEEAASSE!

Legends are people like:
Little Richard
Elvis Presley
Bob Dylan
Miles Davis
The Who
KISS
Prince
Parliament
Nirvana/Kurt Cobain
Alice Cooper
Frank Zappa
etc
etc
etc

people who DID SOMETHING that changed the course of music.
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mattperry said:

Wow what a weakarse response. Care to explain?

ladygirl99 said:

a Legend is an artist who did something to change the course of music: they evolved the art form. All those artists you mentioned just worked within their genre's already established boundaries.

Kurt Cobain broke out a new genre: GRUNGE. That's legendary worthy.

Also, Nirvana came from the 80's, but made it big in the 90's. Other bands who may qualify since Nirvana to come from the 90's but make it big in the 00's are The White Stripes and Dandy Warhols.
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mattperry said:

Well I don't consider Bob Dylan, Kiss, Elvis PRestley or Alice Cooper and Frank Zappa to be legends imho. That based on ur personal taste.
Anyway the artists that I listed weren't only popular mainstream but had bestselling records of the 90s and deserved their props.

Anyway, reread this thread, this is about whether there are any legends of the 90s or not. The artists that you listed, other than Nivana and Kurt Cobain and Prince, aren't qualify as legend of the 90s since they weren't making any albums.
Since it seems like that you don't know too much about the 90s music, which I grew up on, you aren't qualify for this discussion and you aren't worth replying to.
Next.

mattperry said:

1. Seattle Grunge Rock was already invented before Kurt Cobain.

2. TBF, Kurt & Nirvana were THAT genre's first real superstars.

3. And despite all this, Pearl Jam were THAT genre's biggest selling band ever! Yes, they even outsold Nirvana.

ladygirl99 said:

Actually, I write for a big music magazine, and work for a BIG entertainment company. I live through the 90s.

You, clearly are an idiot, and connot see what I am saying. I'm not going to even dignify this with an argument.

1. Seattle Grunge Rock was already invented before Kurt Cobain.

Yeah, but they broke it out, and Kurt had a quality that was absent in every other grunge band.

2. TBF, Kurt & Nirvana were THAT genre's first real superstars.

Yeah, they were. They were the last real rock stars. But Kurts songs will last, the others won't.

3. And despite all this, Pearl Jam were THAT genre's biggest selling band ever! Yes, they even outsold Nirvana.

perhaps, but without Nirvana they wouldn't have sold a record. That's like saying Matchbox 20 outsold Chuck Berry (which they did), so therefore they are better. But without Chuck (who gave us rock n roll) they wouldn't even exist. Same thing, smaller time frame.
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mattperry said:

Also a legend is someone who had bestselling records, able to have soldout performance, loved by fans, etc. They don't have to be always innovative.
I never was into so grunge or alternative scene and that isn't my cup of tea. Shit I can't even tell the difference between Smashing Pumpkins and Nivana just like a heavy metalhead can't tell difference between funk and new jack sound.
But I know legends of the RNB and hip hop of the 90s when I seen and heard one and they deserved their props just as well as rock, country, and alternative artists of that same era.

mattperry said:

Something tells us we shouldn't believe you, especially with you using the wrong tense for "lived"

LuxuryBrown said:

yeah, typing too quick, made a typo: I'm at work and can't get busted on the internet!
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mattperry said:

You considered Elvis PRestley to be a legend? Shiiit. Are you talking about the same man who ripped off his music from black artists? Yet you claimed your definition of a legend is someone who changes the course of music? Elvis innovative? HAHA what a laugh. Who are you kidding here buddy? Also Parliment were one of the earliest funk bands I don't consider them to be legend as a course of change music, but if you are going to talk innovation here then James Brown was the one that started funk yet you don't even have the man on your so-called legend list.
You sure that you used to write for a music magazine?

mattperry said:

Calling someone an idiot yet mispelled cannot and also failed to read this thread title's before responding in the first place. So who is the idiot now?

You considered Elvis PRestley to be a legend? Shiiit. Are you talking about the same man who ripped off his music from black artists?

Yes. Otis Blackwell was the real legend here, but not an icon - nobody knows him. Elvis was the first to make 'cross-over' music.

Yet you claimed your definition of a legend is someone who changes the course of music? Elvis innovative? HAHA what a laugh.

See above, idiot.

Who are you kidding here buddy? Also Parliment were one of the earliest funk bands I don't consider them to be legend as a course of change music, but if you are going to talk innovation here then James Brown was the one that started funk yet you don't even have the man on your so-called legend list.

He would be in the etc etc part. I didn't list EVERYBODY. I have limited time at the moment, I just listed enough so you would get the point, but appantly you were too dumb.

You sure that you used to write for a music magazine?

Yes. Oh, wait - maybe I think I'm somebody else? No, I mean yes. Get a life, little boy.

Also, do you really think you can't tell the difference between sounds of genres like one of those meathead metal fans? Are you really that much of an uncultured oaf?
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mattperry said:

Uh. Yeah. Right. If you write for a music mag and work for a big entertainment company, then being on the internet is VERY NORMAL considering the enterainment info that's available on the net, trust me on that. Try again.

ladygirl99 said:

Ummm. it's called a typo.