Do you think that she is a good budding artist or does she suck...Personally, I think that she is a pretty girl, I like the me and you song but her performances suck! Not to mention the video! She looks like a Prince girl but she sucks! It's ashame that to see how hard Diddy has pushed the girls on making the band 3 and how it was so easy for this cassie girl to get signed and get the exposure she has. I think that she should stick to modeling...what do you think?

She's muy hot and I like the string and flute samples in her song. Her voice is totally average and airy, but the track is pretty cool.

Well my problem with Cassie is that she gave in to the whole industry thing. She started out as something different and became the typical RB girl, kind of bad boys answer to Ciara, thats really all labels care about, whos's hot and can we get someone that looks just like them. Believe it or not it wasnt that easy for her to get signed, she was an indie artist basically garnering her following on Myspace, and thats why Sony/BadBoy jumped at her and then kicked in the promo dollars behind her. Dont get me wrong, she is no starving/struggling artist like back in the day, nowadays pretty much no artist struggles, its all handed to them.

lastdecember said:

I definitely think that has a major impact on the quality of in the r&b world.

PurpleCharm said:

Oh of course dont even get me started on that whole thing, but what bothers me more are artists like a Cassie, or Ciara or Ne-yo and any modern day RB flava of the minute artist, and how they talk of struggle, they are so dillusional and that i blame on media/Mtv/bet and all that stuff. They view struggle as waiting a year to get signed or not getting into a club or their cell phone went out or some bogus "material" thing like that. Struggle would be....Good Example, The Group Air Supply back in 1975 they rented an apartment with their last paycheck while they were stage hands, and then had to invite people over the house and hope that when they sat on the couch change would fall out of their pockets and go behind the cushion and after people would leave they would check for change to buy lunch, that would be struggle.

I disagree to the extent that most artists struggle, and many starve, but few make it. Would we know about Air Supply's struggles had they not become stars?

The problem is that the criteria for stardom has changed. In R&B, it's good looks or gangsta chic. But two thing haven't changed. To hit it big, you have to either a) have dumb luck, or b) have mad connections. Or both.

namepeace said:

Im mainly talking about how they determine their struggle. I just sat and watched these "making the band" girls talk of struggle and yet they have a deal have money being poured down their throats, given the best studio equipment and supllied all their music and radio/video play. So if anyone sees struggle in that then its a "morals" thing. My Air Supply reference, sorry but that is struggle, digging in a couch to find loose change so u can by bread is a form of struggle, and after that they were homeless, and when they got signed to an indie label at first they were not allowed to use the studio, they had to sweep and mop the floors for studio time and they were not allowed to use certain equipment and were only allowed in during "off hours" 3am usually. So true they became stars and had alot of hits and money but they didnt make it from the money and things they were given, because they werent given anything.

Cassie can't sing to save a damn child in Africa...

She sucks!

lastdecember said:

I read somewhere that there was another version to "me and you" or her myspace as well as a different video.

Do you know about that how was her music b4 she got a deal?
I also read she got over 3million hits on her myspace which helped in getting her deal.

ABeautifulOne said:

ouch that was cold! seriously I like the song. Sounds like a pharrel track but I don't think he produced it. I was contemplating getting her cd but i might pass. I heard it's average at best.

Duggs said:

There was a different video for the song but Cassie thought it was degrading so she did a completely new one so it wouldn't affect her target audience...

dancerella said:

I like the little sound effects in the song but her rat voice irks my last nerve...

lastdecember said:

I think you misread my statement.

I wasn't discounting the Air Supply story. I was saying it was one of the few that is known because they just so happened to hit it big. Hence a cliche: for every one Air Supply that hits, there are thousands of Air Supplies that don't.

"Struggle" is all relative. I struggled not to spill coffee on myself when I hit the brakes in my car this morning. Air Supply struggles to put a roof over their head. These girls talk about "struggle" because they want the viewers to be able to accept the opportunity they've been handed on a silver Sean John platter.

namepeace said:

Well thats basically it, its a generational thing. Todays sturggle would be viewed as not getting the diamond covered cell phone or something like that. I think if you just took alot of these artists today that dont struggle at all and are handed their careers and put them say in that "Air Supply" struggle or something tougher they would never go on. I think thats where the gap really is with an artist of today and an artist back then. My Air Supply reference was just to equate the difference in times, it was still another 5 years before they got signed to a major label, and sure there are thousands that didnt make it before them with more struggle, sure, but in comparison i was just putting real "struggling" against what goes on today, which is not struggle.

lastdecember said:

I agree with everything you said. As for the last sentence, I think there are many struggles out there that meet that "Air Supply" standard, but the injustice is that they are rarely told and the triflin' struggles on MTB do.

And I don't think I'll ever mention "Air Supply" this many times in a thread again!

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Angelic1302 said:

She's a cute little girl. But she can't sing a note. And the music to the one song of hers I've heard is nothing new and nothing special.

ABeautifulOne said:

Preach!!!!!

Well said, Namepeace. The business of selling records and the artistry of making music are two completely different animals.



We've been on Cassie before.
http://www.prince.org/msg...sg_3805825

I have not heard of her yet but I'm going out on a limb, she's another cookie cutter R&b/Hip hop singer.

http://img87.imageshack.u...309le0.jpg

is she going to be another bad boy artists one hit or album wonder?

She doesnt have any "it" factor at all. She looks like your average pretty little girl. She's like "blah" or something

All I know is that people ragged on Lumidee when that single came out....Does she get a pass because she looks better? I hope not. Is anyone else kind of offended by the video....since it's kind of a rip off of one of the most memorable videos by one of the biggest video artists ever....I can't just be me that noticed it.