paligap said:

Jon Spencer is keeping the theremin alive! http://www.youtube.com/wa...h=theremin

Graycap and others,

I'd encourage you to track down "Rhythm, Country & Blues," a disc comprising duets between R&B and country stars. The entire disc plays up the "two sides of the same coin" at the heart of this thread. It's awesome.

What Al Green and Lyle Lovett do to "Funny How Time Slips Away" should be both outlawed and studied.

paligap said:

there you go... and I used to have Donna Summer





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theAudience said:

I'm not an expert on that topic, but maybe the so-called "third stream" movement with people like Gunther Schuller might be considered that linkage. They tried to fuse European classical music with Jazz elements.

Graycap23 said:

awwwww

actually, there's been some great writers in Country music.

There wouldn't have been Whitney's "I will always love you" without Dolly

but on the real....lyrically, there's been some really good country music. I just say this because my parents had some old country records and even some newer stuff. My mom liked Vince ....somebody... But anyway....lol.

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Graycap23 said:

ok.

A lot of country music has roots in the British Isles. Most of the settlers in the Appalachian and Smokie Mountains were from Scotland and Ireland.
Bluegrass music and a lot of the old timey mountain music are descended from
Celtic and British roots.
Square dancing and clogging come from there too.

shellyevon said:

It's all folk music, not Peter Paul & Mary or Dylan, but the music regular folks do--it's culture. There's no pure music (uniquely American, uniquely European), it's all passed down from somewhere, influenced by something & transformed just like our genes & cultures.

Different styles emerge and someone runs a bit farther with the baton at times, but to say rock & roll or jazz comes from only one place ignores the rest of it's family tree.

1BadMoFo said:

Here we go with another silly ass cat; Player, Before u come at me, PLEASE have your shit correct. First off, I have not once "freely spewed" anything as fact. I just merely spoke on what was stated in the "History of Jazz" series. Since u claim that u have that, then u would have known what I was talking about and that would have been that. But nah, u have to start semi-trippin telling me that u teach, etc, which has nothing to do with this topic. Everything u said in your post, I had ALREADY said earlier in my posts. Being that everything is a hybrid of something else. Is insecurity not a drag or what? I can see why ya'll cats don't ever post. Ya'll too busy hiding in the bushes, not confident enough to step out with your own shit, but all the while, waiting to try to ambush somebody with some bullshit. Nit picking and twisting words up ain't hardly confidence if u have to resort to that.

blackguitaristz said:

I'm glad u had the energy 4 that.....
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blackguitaristz said:

I think you just ripped Prince a new one!

rushing07 said:[quote]

blackguitaristz said:

Man, when u listen to them ole' songs that slaves used to sing while they were in the field, if THAT wasn't gospel, lyrical and melody wise....then it sure was the basis for gospel.

blackguitaristz said:

And note, I DID also state that Gospel and Classical were hybrids to something else.

blackguitaristz said:

ThreadBare said:

I think the George Jones/BB King version of Patches on that album is quite magnificent, actually.

I'm nowhere near enough of a muso to comment on the main question of this thread, but I have to mention that I unreservedly love country music. Personally I think true country music places an emphasis on craftsmanship and song construction that modern pop and r&b could learn a lot from.

blackguitaristz said:

You are sure right with this one. The songs that slaves sang were not gospel. Gospel grew out of the field hollers and spirituals. The term denotes the genre that was born in the 1940's, which disquaifies it as the source of blues (presumably born in during the first decade of the 20th century).

blackguitaristz said:

well,this "silly ass cat" also has 11 cds of original music published and for sale all around the world.I also have a song or 2 right here in the org artist forum,check it out-it is funky! by the way-where is YOUR contribution in the artist forum?I don't recall any of your music in there?YOU must be "hiding in the bushes" or something,playa.

paligap said:

I saw it years ago - my memory of it is very hazy, but I remember that the Brian Wilson interview was very strange. I mean, every BW interview is strange to some extent, but this one was really out there.
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paligap said:

YES! and i've wanted a Theremin ever since.


and i also think it's the reason Dirty Walt left Fishbone.

damosuzuki said:

It is a nice song.

And, I couldn't agree more. There's a simple grace to "I Fall to Pieces" not to be found in most pop/r&b these days, for example.

1BadMoFo said:

Hiding? Not hardly. And copy cat-ism isn't that creative. PLEASE come up with your own put downs! It's not very O.G. biting off of me. There are some folks on here that have not only heard my published material but owns it. Some have posted right on this very thread. But again, that has nada to do with this topic.

blackguitaristz said:

until YOU put some music up for people to hear in the artist's forum,I dont think it is neither cool nor classy of YOU to insult other musicians here.
there is PLENTY of creativity in the particular song I covered(the ONLY cover of a song I have EVER done by the way),sorry you couldn't get past YOUR own jealousy to hear it that way,playa.
so,go ahead bigshot-POST SOME OF YOUR ULTRA -CREATIVE MUSIC FOR US TO HEAR!
I am sure you have re-invented the wheel with your music,don't be afraid to post it!
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1BadMoFo said:

Man, what in the hell are u talking about?! What song that u covered? Who mentioned about a song that u covered? I sure in the hell didn't and neither did u. And this off the hook weirdness u talking about that I couldn't get past my jealousy to hear it? To hear what? What jealousy? U covering a song was NEVER even mentioned. I haven't knocked anything of yours cuz I haven't heard anything of yours. Cover song or not. And like I already posted, they're are folks on here who have already heard and OWN my stuff. Their have already been a few threads in this forum where this has been discussed by people's posts in the past. Now, if u have a cover song or whatever it is that u want me to check out, no problem. But seriously, I know nada about any cover tune that u have done or the amount of creativity that u put into it.

lawd...BG is someone we already know is talented.

We don't need to play whose dick is bigger....lets get back to the history of Crunk and Screwed music please

Rhondab said:

thank god we're not playing "who's dick is bigger" because Blackguitaristz would beat me hands down.
I hear he is hung like a junkyard dog or a camel even.
graycap23 stole my music

1BadMoFo said:

so you've heard about his dick but not his music.....interesting


anyway...stop all the

(I really just wanted an excuse to use that emoticon )

Rhondab said:

Thanx Rhonda, but there's no need. (sigh) I told u 1mofo, there are several others on here that can attest to what I stated already. Dig, u really shouldn't let other folks opinions rattle u to the point to where u lose your cool. Seriously. And the cold part about this is that for the most part, I was just fucking with u. Yeah, there's folks on here that own some of my music, that's a straight fact. But besides that, I was just plalying around with u, teasing, u know? Nothing deep. But then u mess around and truly start to flip out over some shit that didn't even go down. Really though, it's not that deep. At least, not to me. But uh, to paraphrase Rhonda, don't trip cuz my dick is the biggest! You'll be alright.

Rhondab said:

actually, i am quite a fan of Chris's work.
I will leave it up to him to explain my knowledge of his hammer though.

blackguitaristz said:

Chris,don't make me unzip your trousers and mess around with
your toolkit again.
you KNOW i can take a joke!


seriously though-dude,you are hung like a fuckin' rhino!
how in the hell did it get SO big?
steroids?pump?rapid movement?
are you using medium gague strings these days?