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Classic Miles quote Spent about $100 on books including Running the Voodoo Down...
...The Electric Music of Miles Davis this weekend. The priceless quote: When I hear jazz musicians today playing all those same licks we used to play so long ago, I feel sad for them. I mean, it's like going to bed with a real old person who even smells real old...I like contemporary stuff. I have to always be on the cutting edge of things because that's just the way I am and have always been. ~Miles Davis (1989) Take that Stanley "the grouch" Crouch. 
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Kool! Let me know how it is, I just bought "The Last Miles", covering Davis's music from 1980 to 1991....
 Man, I can't stand "Stanley the Grouch"!!
He still thinks Miles did the electric stuff to sell records!! C'mon!! If Miles had really wanted to sell records, there's much easier things he could have put out...much more commercial, radio friendly stuff... But instead, he chose some of the most dense, challenging music out there...and people are still arguing about it to this day... ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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Kool! Let me know how it is, I just bought "The Last Miles", covering Davis's music from 1980 to 1991....
Man, I can't stand "Stanley the Grouch"!!
He still thinks Miles did the electric stuff to sell records!! C'mon!! If Miles had really wanted to sell records, there's much easier things he could have put out...much more commercial, radio friendly stuff... But instead, he chose some of the most dense, challenging music out there...and people are still arguing about it to this day... ... I totally agree.....Kenny G is a perfect example 
Thanks, tA and paligap, for the book suggestions....I have to go to Colombia on business and need a good distraction! Anyone interested in bringing their Uzi and going with me? I need a body guard! 
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Kool! Let me know how it is, I just bought "The Last Miles", covering Davis's music from 1980 to 1991....Will do. You do the same. 
The Last Miles is the one i've got to get from the recent electric era books that have come out. Picked up... 
...Miles To Go earlier this year. tA Tribal Disorder
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cubic61052 said: Thanks, tA and paligap, for the book suggestions....I have to go to Colombia on business and need a good distraction!
Anyone interested in bringing their Uzi and going with me? I need a body guard!
You're welcome. When "The Tribe" went to Bogota a few years ago, they assigned some students to us to make sure we didn't wander around too much and potentially become ransom bait for the narco-terrorists. Don't act blatantly American. 
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theAudience said: cubic61052 said: Thanks, tA and paligap, for the book suggestions....I have to go to Colombia on business and need a good distraction!
Anyone interested in bringing their Uzi and going with me? I need a body guard!
You're welcome. When "The Tribe" went to Bogota a few years ago, they assigned some students to us to make sure we didn't wander around too much and potentially become ransom bait for the narco-terrorists. Don't act blatantly American.
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http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 I never act blantantly American, as you know...I am a half-breed, remember? ...
Honestly, I will have a guide with me at all times.....no problems..... And, yes, I did promise you all my CDs when I die, however that is not on the agenda this trip.... 
Now, back to the subject at hand....MILES....my main man ! "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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paligap said: ...
Kool! Let me know how it is, I just bought "The Last Miles", covering Davis's music from 1980 to 1991....
Man, I can't stand "Stanley the Grouch"!!
He still thinks Miles did the electric stuff to sell records!! C'mon!! If Miles had really wanted to sell records, there's much easier things he could have put out...much more commercial, radio friendly stuff... But instead, he chose some of the most dense, challenging music out there...and people are still arguing about it to this day... ... Yes, how anyone could think of electric Miles as being something akin to Rock & Roll (and therefore a sell out) is beyond me. In fact it's much harder to listen to & understand than the "cool" stuff or the bebop stuff. I just watched Collateral and there's a scene where a band "horn syncs" to track 1 disc 2 of Bitches Brew. It was amazing how well it worked--how much the track sounded like live band onstage, and how contemporary it still sounds. My Legacy
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NDRU said: paligap said: ...
Kool! Let me know how it is, I just bought "The Last Miles", covering Davis's music from 1980 to 1991....
Man, I can't stand "Stanley the Grouch"!!
He still thinks Miles did the electric stuff to sell records!! C'mon!! If Miles had really wanted to sell records, there's much easier things he could have put out...much more commercial, radio friendly stuff... But instead, he chose some of the most dense, challenging music out there...and people are still arguing about it to this day... ... Yes, how anyone could think of electric Miles as being something akin to Rock & Roll (and therefore a sell out) is beyond me. In fact it's much harder to listen to & understand than the "cool" stuff or the bebop stuff. I just watched Collateral and there's a scene where a band "horn syncs" to track 1 disc 2 of Bitches Brew. It was amazing how well it worked--how much the track sounded like live band onstage, and how contemporary it still sounds.  Ndeed!!
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that's funny!!
hey does anyone remember Miles being asked in a interview if he was in a relationship and he said "no, but do you know any small boys?" 
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sinisterpentatonic said: hey does anyone remember Miles being asked in a interview if he was in a relationship and he said "no, but do you know any small boys?"
my bad for keeping up the myth if it isn't true. 
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I need some of these books. Anyone have a short list of the best of 'em? | |
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GangstaFam said: I need some of these books. Anyone have a short list of the best of 'em?
Yeah,I want more books on Jimi and some books on miles and bowie,inclusing art books. "I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill" | |
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These are some of the Koolest music books that I've read over the years, but that's just my opinion...            
   
  
 
    
    
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Nice!
It got a lot of heat when it came out, but I realy enjoyed "The Lives of John Lennon" by Albert Goldman. Geoff Emerick's book on the Beatles is great, too, for those that enjoy reading more technical stuff. Miles' autobiography was a good read With the Lights Out is a good book on Kurt Cobain My Legacy
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theAudience said: sinisterpentatonic said: hey does anyone remember Miles being asked in a interview if he was in a relationship and he said "no, but do you know any small boys?"
my bad for keeping up the myth if it isn't true.
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paligap said: ...
These are some of the Koolest music books that I've read over the years, but that's just my opinion... [img]s-load of good reading[/img] ... Great list Gap-Man 
I just repurchased The Real Frank Zappa Book on Sunday as mine had become misappropriated.
Another one folks might be interested in on the biz in general... 
...Hit Men - Fredric Dannen I'd even recommend Stanley Crouch's... 
...Notes of a Hanging Judge A book of essays on the civil rights movement but their are a few classic Crouchisms on music figures. Prince: "demonic vulgarity" "whose tunes are the squeaks of ungreased souls" ... 
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theAudience said: paligap said: ...
These are some of the Koolest music books that I've read over the years, but that's just my opinion... [img]s-load of good reading[/img] ... Great list Gap-Man
I just repurchased The Real Frank Zappa Book on Sunday as mine had become misappropriated.
Another one folks might be interested in on the biz in general...
...Hit Men - Fredric Dannen That's a great one!!!! You're right, That's essential reading on the Music biz...
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NDRU said: Nice!
It got a lot of heat when it came out, but I realy enjoyed "The Lives of John Lennon" by Albert Goldman. Geoff Emerick's book on the Beatles is great, too, for those that enjoy reading more technical stuff. Miles' autobiography was a good read With the Lights Out is a good book on Kurt Cobain So, what's the best Beatles bio to get? does Emerick's book focus more on the music? ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: NDRU said: Nice!
It got a lot of heat when it came out, but I realy enjoyed "The Lives of John Lennon" by Albert Goldman. Geoff Emerick's book on the Beatles is great, too, for those that enjoy reading more technical stuff. Miles' autobiography was a good read With the Lights Out is a good book on Kurt Cobain So, what's the best Beatles bio to get? does Emerick's book focus more on the music? ... Yeah, Emerick's book focuses on technical aspects of recording the songs, but he wasn't there for the early years or end of White Album/Let It Be, and it doesn't have much in the way of beatle folklore. The Beatles Complete Recording Sessions is interesting for technical stuff, too. Other than the Lennon book, I haven't read a really good book that deals with the history (musical & personal) of them. I'm sure there is one (I hear the new one--The Beatles: The Biography--is good) but the ones I've read are badly written & too fan-ish, though full of info & pictures. The most objective sources to me have been the movies--The Complete Beatles & the Anthology DVD's. [Edited 8/1/06 15:02pm] My Legacy
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NDRU said: paligap said: So, what's the best Beatles bio to get? does Emerick's book focus more on the music? ... Yeah, Emerick's book focuses on technical aspects of recording the songs, but he wasn't there for the early years or end of White Album/Let It Be, and it doesn't have much in the way of beatle folklore. The Beatles Complete Recording Sessions is interesting for technical stuff, too. Other than the Lennon book, I haven't read a really good book that deals with the history (musical & personal) of them. I'm sure there is one (I hear the new one--The Beatles: The Biography--is good) but the ones I've read are badly written & too fan-ish, though full of info. The best sources for me have been the movies--The Complete Beatles & the Anthology DVD's. Anything where Sir George Martin's perspective is the focal point?  I think i've read something where he and Emerick were at loggerheads for a bit.
Or was it one of The Beatles? tA Tribal Disorder
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NDRU said: paligap said: So, what's the best Beatles bio to get? does Emerick's book focus more on the music? ... Yeah, Emerick's book focuses on technical aspects of recording the songs, but he wasn't there for the early years or end of White Album/Let It Be, and it doesn't have much in the way of beatle folklore. The Beatles Complete Recording Sessions is interesting for technical stuff, too. Other than the Lennon book, I haven't read a really good book that deals with the history (musical & personal) of them. I'm sure there is one (I hear the new one--The Beatles: The Biography--is good) but the ones I've read are badly written & too fan-ish, though full of info & pictures. The most objective sources to me have been the movies--The Complete Beatles & the Anthology DVD's. [Edited 8/1/06 15:02pm] Yeah, that's the thing... I loved the "Compleat Beatles" documentary and I was wondering if any of the books had that same flow....I may investigate Emerick , or the new bio, though----thanks! ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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theAudience said: NDRU said: Yeah, Emerick's book focuses on technical aspects of recording the songs, but he wasn't there for the early years or end of White Album/Let It Be, and it doesn't have much in the way of beatle folklore. The Beatles Complete Recording Sessions is interesting for technical stuff, too. Other than the Lennon book, I haven't read a really good book that deals with the history (musical & personal) of them. I'm sure there is one (I hear the new one--The Beatles: The Biography--is good) but the ones I've read are badly written & too fan-ish, though full of info. The best sources for me have been the movies--The Complete Beatles & the Anthology DVD's. Anything where Sir George Martin's perspective is the focal point? I think i've read something where he and Emerick were at loggerheads for a bit.
Or was it one of The Beatles? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 The Complete Beatles focuses quite a bit on Martin (not a book, of course). He's interviewed at length, and given great importance. Geoff Emerick likes & respects Martin, but he has plenty criticizm as well. He thought Martin wanted to be seen as the only one outside of the four to contribute anything to the music, where engineers probably did more in terms of actual recording & achieving sounds than he did. But then, Martin wrote scores & played instruments on the albums, of course, which seperates him from the engineers. He's got a book All You Need is Ears, haven't read it. My Legacy
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paligap said: NDRU said: Yeah, Emerick's book focuses on technical aspects of recording the songs, but he wasn't there for the early years or end of White Album/Let It Be, and it doesn't have much in the way of beatle folklore. The Beatles Complete Recording Sessions is interesting for technical stuff, too. Other than the Lennon book, I haven't read a really good book that deals with the history (musical & personal) of them. I'm sure there is one (I hear the new one--The Beatles: The Biography--is good) but the ones I've read are badly written & too fan-ish, though full of info & pictures. The most objective sources to me have been the movies--The Complete Beatles & the Anthology DVD's. [Edited 8/1/06 15:02pm] Yeah, that's the thing... I loved the "Compleat Beatles" documentary and I was wondering if any of the books had that same flow....I may investigate Emerick , or the new bio, though----thanks! ... I really liked Emerick's book for what it was. My Legacy
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NDRU said: Nice!
It got a lot of heat when it came out, but I realy enjoyed "The Lives of John Lennon" by Albert Goldman. Geoff Emerick's book on the Beatles is great, too, for those that enjoy reading more technical stuff. Miles' autobiography was a good read With the Lights Out is a good book on Kurt Cobain yup
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theAudience said: Spent about $100 on books including Running the Voodoo Down...
...The Electric Music of Miles Davis this weekend. The priceless quote: When I hear jazz musicians today playing all those same licks we used to play so long ago, I feel sad for them. I mean, it's like going to bed with a real old person who even smells real old...I like contemporary stuff. I have to always be on the cutting edge of things because that's just the way I am and have always been. ~Miles Davis (1989) Take that Stanley "the grouch" Crouch.
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paligap said: ...
Kool! Let me know how it is, I just bought "The Last Miles", covering Davis's music from 1980 to 1991....
Man, I can't stand "Stanley the Grouch"!!
He still thinks Miles did the electric stuff to sell records!! C'mon!! If Miles had really wanted to sell records, there's much easier things he could have put out...much more commercial, radio friendly stuff... But instead, he chose some of the most dense, challenging music out there...and people are still arguing about it to this day... ... The Last Miles is a superb book. It'll make you listen to all those supposedly "crap" albums he made in the 80s with a very fresh perspective. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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NDRU said: Nice!
It got a lot of heat when it came out, but I realy enjoyed "The Lives of John Lennon" by Albert Goldman. Geoff Emerick's book on the Beatles is great, too, for those that enjoy reading more technical stuff. Miles' autobiography was a good read With the Lights Out is a good book on Kurt Cobain That was a cracking read. Contentious, yes, but Yoko never sued. Goldman's Elvis book is also another great read. He was working on a bio of Jim Morrison - with the surviving band's full co-operation - when he died. I'm sure it would have buried No One Here Gets Out Alive. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: NDRU said: Nice!
It got a lot of heat when it came out, but I realy enjoyed "The Lives of John Lennon" by Albert Goldman. Geoff Emerick's book on the Beatles is great, too, for those that enjoy reading more technical stuff. Miles' autobiography was a good read With the Lights Out is a good book on Kurt Cobain That was a cracking read. Contentious, yes, but Yoko never sued. Goldman's Elvis book is also another great read. He was working on a bio of Jim Morrison - with the surviving band's full co-operation - when he died. I'm sure it would have buried No One Here Gets Out Alive. I read most of the Elvis one too. He gets criticism, but mostly because he doesn't shy away from insulting his subject where appropriate. But Lennon & Elvis definitely weren't perfect! It was the most complete bio I'd read, maybe about anyone. Sometimes you wonder how he gets info & he suggests some outrageous stuff (like Lennon may have been a multiple personality!) he does his research & he's not intimidated by the legend. My Legacy
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