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Thread started 07/28/06 10:50am

Harlepolis

Is Lauryn Hill Exaggerating Shit?

So I read the infamous long TRACE magazine's interview the other(where it shed on many issues about L-Boogie).

And I thought to myself that Lauryn was either a VERY hyper-sensitive person or just a crybaby.

Whats this profound experience that led her to change this much and make her in such exile?

I love her tho and I think she's one of the FEW very sincere artists nowadays but I fail to understand whats happening to her.
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Reply #1 posted 07/28/06 11:07am

whoknows

Harlepolis said:

So I read the infamous long TRACE magazine's interview the other(where it shed on many issues about L-Boogie).

And I thought to myself that Lauryn was either a VERY hyper-sensitive person or just a crybaby.

Whats this profound experience that led her to change this much and make her in such exile?

I love her tho and I think she's one of the FEW very sincere artists nowadays but I fail to understand whats happening to her.

That's what I like about her too. Sincerity is such a rare quality among pop stars, particularly the current female crop. She was the last one that seemed free of bullshit to me. I suppose Mary J is sincere but she always seems like she's trying too hard whenever I see her perform. Let's face it though, Lauryn is over which is a real shame.
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Reply #2 posted 07/28/06 11:10am

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But i do appreciate her walking away from it all, it really does show something about a person to be able to take something so serious to just give it all up. George Michael kind of did it, but i think another example would be Billy Joel, though he performs, he just quit back in 1993 becuase he felt he had nothing left to say.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #3 posted 07/28/06 11:17am

Harlepolis

lastdecember said:

nothing left to say.


But she does have ALOT to say, unlike Billy. The state of mind/being she's in right now(and the past 4 years since the unplugged) and the songs she's been releasing through the internet recently. All of this and the dark stuff she keeps being quite about too.

I agree that she's couragous when she stripped the whole mainstream act off and put it behind her back esp since she was(and still is) the centre of many temptations.
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Reply #4 posted 07/28/06 11:18am

mikek1

SHE IS A CRACK WHORE!
FUCK HER!
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Reply #5 posted 07/28/06 11:20am

Harlepolis

mikek1 said:

SHE IS A CRACK WHORE!
FUCK HER!


Likewise.
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Reply #6 posted 07/28/06 11:22am

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I think it's tragic what happened to her... she was that rare multi-platinum selling female R&B artist who was not only real but made music that was real, lyrically and instrumentation-wise. Plus, she had phenomenal talent to boot.

I don't know if we'll ever get something new from her, but I guess her time in the spotlight was great while it lasted. sad It's sad.. she could have been commercial R&B/hip-hop's savior.... I guess it wasn't meant to be.
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Reply #7 posted 07/28/06 11:37am

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Very talented girl, I like her a lot, but she lost her damn fucking mind imo.

Too bad. She could've saved R'n'B and Hip Hop, maybe.
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Reply #8 posted 07/28/06 4:19pm

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SHE IS A CRACK WHORE!
FUCK HER!


lol lol lol lol

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Reply #9 posted 07/28/06 4:21pm

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Well, on further review, Miseducation was an outstanding album, but I don't think she would have "saved" either R&B OR hip-hop. One of the unfortunate things about her success was that encouraged R&B's co-opting of hip-hop.

Lest we forget, Lauryn was a good singer who made her way to fame as an MC. She found a way to fuse the best of both worlds, made an outstanding album, and when it hit, she came off as the antithesis of "Lauryn Hill": A self-conscious, strident, insecure person who bitterly complained about the very success she herself went after.

I feel for her and regret her troubles. But man.
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Reply #10 posted 07/28/06 4:32pm

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namepeace said:

Well, on further review, Miseducation was an outstanding album, but I don't think she would have "saved" either R&B OR hip-hop. One of the unfortunate things about her success was that encouraged R&B's co-opting of hip-hop.

Lest we forget, Lauryn was a good singer who made her way to fame as an MC. She found a way to fuse the best of both worlds, made an outstanding album, and when it hit, she came off as the antithesis of "Lauryn Hill": A self-conscious, strident, insecure person who bitterly complained about the very success she herself went after.

I feel for her and regret her troubles. But man.


I think Lauryn was more the person to incorporate R'n'B elements into Hip Hop, rather than the other way around...
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Reply #11 posted 07/28/06 4:57pm

whoknows

namepeace said:

Well, on further review, Miseducation was an outstanding album, but I don't think she would have "saved" either R&B OR hip-hop. One of the unfortunate things about her success was that encouraged R&B's co-opting of hip-hop.

Lest we forget, Lauryn was a good singer who made her way to fame as an MC. She found a way to fuse the best of both worlds, made an outstanding album, and when it hit, she came off as the antithesis of "Lauryn Hill": A self-conscious, strident, insecure person who bitterly complained about the very success she herself went after.

I feel for her and regret her troubles. But man.

Yeah, we all know she's fucked up, but that's her business. I would rather remember the fact that she was the last mainstream female artist that I actually respected. All I see now are shallow career strategists like Beyonce or fakes like Alicia Keys. Who knows what the roots of Lauryn's problems are? Without knowing I don't think we have the right to judge. Lauryn did something great once upon a time and that's enough for me.
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Reply #12 posted 07/28/06 5:06pm

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namepeace said:

One of the unfortunate things about her success was that encouraged R&B's co-opting of hip-hop.

From where I'm sitting, hip-hop co-opted R&B.
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Reply #13 posted 07/28/06 6:02pm

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Lauryn's demise can be credited to her husband/baby daddy. Anytime somebody trips out calling a man her "husband" whenever 1. Ya'll ain't no where near being married and 2. He doesn't even wanna be your man in public...we got some problems and that will fuck with a woman's head (and in L's case a good sweet woman). It's a shame.

Yet another example of a man promsing the sun moon and stars only to bring her down to the dirt.....

I'll have the Whitney Houston Platter on table six please...with a side of Bobby Brown sauce...

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Reply #14 posted 07/29/06 2:16am

Harlepolis

Thing is, L-Boogie is the FIRST to admit that she ain't normal. She excepted the fact that she's "crazy and deranged".

But despite that, I see a woman who's trying to get over her demons but keeps failing.
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Reply #15 posted 07/29/06 4:37am

alwayslate

Bi-Polar. End of discussion.
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Reply #16 posted 07/29/06 12:35pm

CinisterCee

AlexdeParis said:

namepeace said:

One of the unfortunate things about her success was that encouraged R&B's co-opting of hip-hop.

From where I'm sitting, hip-hop co-opted R&B.


Nope. smile
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Reply #17 posted 07/29/06 1:34pm

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alwayslate said:

Bi-Polar. End of discussion.

nod sounds like it right
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Reply #18 posted 07/29/06 1:54pm

ThePunisher

Has anyone stopped to think that maybe Lauryn had just one good blockbuster album in her? I think she can still do some good music but she probably will never duplicate the succes of "Miseducation" Unless she gets back with the Fugees.
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Reply #19 posted 07/29/06 7:05pm

sunlite

My boy just had a guitar audition for her. He said they were jamming, she on acoustic and he on electric and during his solo, without as much as a goodbye she just got up and walked out never to return. This was a month ago. He still has mad respect for her, but says she's crazy as cat shit. I won't say my friends name, but he is an incredibly funky player toured for a long time with the RHCP. If she wasn't feeling him she could've at least said so. Oh well I hope she works it out.
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Reply #20 posted 07/29/06 8:04pm

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When Lauryn is on she's hot, when she's off she sounds like hot garbage.
[Edited 7/29/06 20:08pm]
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Reply #21 posted 07/29/06 8:05pm

VoicesCarry

lilgish said:

Was Lauryn is on she's hot, when she's off she sounds like hot garbage.


lilsigh said:

She can't sing.
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Reply #22 posted 07/29/06 8:11pm

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VoicesCarry said:

lilgish said:

Was Lauryn is on she's hot, when she's off she sounds like hot garbage.


lilsigh said:

She can't sing.


innocent Did I say that? razz
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Reply #23 posted 07/29/06 8:42pm

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A moment of clarity.

Young people are being encouraged to throw out their work ethics, their intelligence, and that is something to be repulsed by, That is pure grime. These same people who glorify the hood also flaunt the materialistic lifestyle...”


It could be that the woman isn't as loony as some would have you believe.

Maybe she's just decided to deal with the biz (label, recording, performing, fans, etc.) completely on her own terms regardless of how it makes her look to those on the outside.

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Reply #24 posted 07/30/06 12:26am

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sunlite said:

My boy just had a guitar audition for her. He said they were jamming, she on acoustic and he on electric and during his solo, without as much as a goodbye she just got up and walked out never to return. This was a month ago. He still has mad respect for her, but says she's crazy as cat shit. I won't say my friends name, but he is an incredibly funky player toured for a long time with the RHCP. If she wasn't feeling him she could've at least said so. Oh well I hope she works it out.


Omar is my homegirl. I bet the sex was good.
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Reply #25 posted 07/30/06 11:16am

Harlepolis

theAudience said:


Maybe she's just decided to deal with the biz completely on her own terms



LOL thats EXAAAAACTLY why she's being classified as "cray and deranged".

Anyway, I don't think it bothers her being looked at as looney.

According to her: "when you're crazy, people DON'T mess with you". lol
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Reply #26 posted 07/30/06 11:34am

miguelbulcao

Can someone explain to me what is happening to her?

Habne't acess to news about her in a long time!
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Reply #27 posted 07/30/06 11:48am

DecaturStone

I was once a Lauryn supporter until I saw her live in Atlanta at the Vibe fest last year. This was a first hand not a rumor. Her behavior was sick. I understand we all go through things. She was rude to the crowd and the band. She lost me as a fan for life. Whatever she is going thru she needs to sit down and get help. It will sad to see such a talent lost.
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Reply #28 posted 07/30/06 11:53am

Harlepolis

DecaturStone said:

I was once a Lauryn supporter until I saw her live in Atlanta at the Vibe fest last year. This was a first hand not a rumor. Her behavior was sick. I understand we all go through things. She was rude to the crowd and the band. She lost me as a fan for life. Whatever she is going thru she needs to sit down and get help. It will sad to see such a talent lost.


LOL you wouldn't have dug Nina Simone live either coz the bitch was nas-taaaaay,,,god rest her soul lol

But thats the thing about complex artists, they get away with being rude and nasty I guess shrug
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Reply #29 posted 07/30/06 11:54am

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I think, like Dave Chappelle, Lauryn just couldn't handle that much height of fame that she was at, she was already up there with the Fugees, then when her album dropped she just blew up....some people love the attention of fame but you also have to take the good with the bad, and the bad was probably terrible. The people who she thought were her friends weren't, she couldn't trust anyone (and in that business, who can you trust?) and she probably felt that she was not being true to herself if she gave in to the "pop" standard way of life.

yeah she does seem like she lost her mind, but hey at least she hasn't lost her voice.
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