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Reply #30 posted 08/01/06 4:25pm

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She's a legend, but she's not acting like one.
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Reply #31 posted 08/01/06 4:34pm

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She is a Legend, she aint got 2 make no more money and we will remember her 50 - 100 years later
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Reply #32 posted 08/01/06 4:36pm

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[tyrone biggums was here]

...Y'all better wreckanize!

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Reply #33 posted 08/01/06 4:39pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

theAudience said:

[tyrone biggums was here]

...Y'all better wreckanize!

falloff


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Reply #34 posted 08/01/06 4:44pm

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She is a legend. But, when it's all said and done, what will she be legendary for? Her talent or her addiction? Recognize her comments for what they could be -- a cry for help.

She and Bobby have become punchlines, but folks who were around when they both were in their primes know how they led their genres for a time. Both had crazy tours and record sales. Whitney even had an HBO special (that might have been the debut of the profuse sweating and the ubiquitous hand towel, as I recall).

A former model, Whitney in her prime could out-sing the best of them. Who wasn't moved when she sang the national anthem at the Super Bowl? It was so rousing, it was released as a single!!! Put her right up there with all the other "divas" (the real ones -- Streisand, Wilson, Dion, LaBelle), and she could hold her own. She took the power ballad and, love it or hate it, made it commercial in the MTV era. And, her image, in the beginning, was squeaky clean.



So, all these years later, with her model looks and singing voice hammered by years of substance abuse and other issues, her life today probably is a cruel reminder of her past glory. We know addicts live in denial. But, they know the deal, deep down.

So, our challenge is to resist the urge to view Whitney as a pop-culture joke, even to resist seeing her as a train wreck in progress. We have to continue to see Whitney as a person worth saving. Because, quite honestly, at her best she represented the best we had to offer. And, look what has come of her.

So, it's up to us to save Whitney and all our Cousin Whitneys, all the people in her situation, to reach out to them and remind them that there's still greatness in them worth salvaging.
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Reply #35 posted 08/01/06 4:48pm

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ThreadBare said:

So, it's up to us to save Whitney and all our Cousin Whitneys, all the people in her situation, to reach out to them and remind them that there's still greatness in them worth salvaging.

you ain't that cat who was trying to start up a National Whitney Houston Day or somesuch, are you? hmm
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Reply #36 posted 08/01/06 4:49pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

ThreadBare said:

So, it's up to us to save Whitney and all our Cousin Whitneys, all the people in her situation, to reach out to them and remind them that there's still greatness in them worth salvaging.

you ain't that cat who was trying to start up a National Whitney Houston Day or somesuch, are you? hmm


No lol , but I'm in agreement with the prayer her old music director, Kirk Whalum, was circulating on the Internet. nod
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Reply #37 posted 08/01/06 4:49pm

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ThreadBare said:

She is a legend. But, when it's all said and done, what will she be legendary for? Her talent or her addiction? Recognize her comments for what they could be -- a cry for help.

She and Bobby have become punchlines, but folks who were around when they both were in their primes know how they led their genres for a time. Both had crazy tours and record sales. Whitney even had an HBO special (that might have been the debut of the profuse sweating and the ubiquitous hand towel, as I recall).

A former model, Whitney in her prime could out-sing the best of them. Who wasn't moved when she sang the national anthem at the Super Bowl? It was so rousing, it was released as a single!!! Put her right up there with all the other "divas" (the real ones -- Streisand, Wilson, Dion, LaBelle), and she could hold her own. She took the power ballad and, love it or hate it, made it commercial in the MTV era. And, her image, in the beginning, was squeaky clean.



So, all these years later, with her model looks and singing voice hammered by years of substance abuse and other issues, her life today probably is a cruel reminder of her past glory. We know addicts live in denial. But, they know the deal, deep down.

So, our challenge is to resist the urge to view Whitney as a pop-culture joke, even to resist seeing her as a train wreck in progress. We have to continue to see Whitney as a person worth saving. Because, quite honestly, at her best she represented the best we had to offer. And, look what has come of her.

So, it's up to us to save Whitney and all our Cousin Whitneys, all the people in her situation, to reach out to them and remind them that there's still greatness in them worth salvaging.


Billie Holliday basically did the same thing, is she not a legend no?
WE need 2 support her (even when she aint supportin herself like we did support Prince in the Symbol days)
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Reply #38 posted 08/01/06 5:05pm

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ThreadBare said:

She is a legend. But, when it's all said and done, what will she be legendary for? Her talent or her addiction? Recognize her comments for what they could be -- a cry for help.

She and Bobby have become punchlines, but folks who were around when they both were in their primes know how they led their genres for a time. Both had crazy tours and record sales. Whitney even had an HBO special (that might have been the debut of the profuse sweating and the ubiquitous hand towel, as I recall).

A former model, Whitney in her prime could out-sing the best of them. Who wasn't moved when she sang the national anthem at the Super Bowl? It was so rousing, it was released as a single!!! Put her right up there with all the other "divas" (the real ones -- Streisand, Wilson, Dion, LaBelle), and she could hold her own. She took the power ballad and, love it or hate it, made it commercial in the MTV era. And, her image, in the beginning, was squeaky clean.



So, all these years later, with her model looks and singing voice hammered by years of substance abuse and other issues, her life today probably is a cruel reminder of her past glory. We know addicts live in denial. But, they know the deal, deep down.

So, our challenge is to resist the urge to view Whitney as a pop-culture joke, even to resist seeing her as a train wreck in progress. We have to continue to see Whitney as a person worth saving. Because, quite honestly, at her best she represented the best we had to offer. And, look what has come of her.

So, it's up to us to save Whitney and all our Cousin Whitneys, all the people in her situation, to reach out to them and remind them that there's still greatness in them worth salvaging.

I agree with you 100 % but the only way for the prayers to work is for Whitney to make up her mind that needs help and for her to stay on the straight and narrow with it. Based on those comments she made, she still has a long way to go but when she makes up her mind to change, the prayers will finally kick in, I believe.
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Reply #39 posted 08/01/06 5:09pm

ThreadBare

purplecam said:

ThreadBare said:

She is a legend. But, when it's all said and done, what will she be legendary for? Her talent or her addiction? Recognize her comments for what they could be -- a cry for help.

She and Bobby have become punchlines, but folks who were around when they both were in their primes know how they led their genres for a time. Both had crazy tours and record sales. Whitney even had an HBO special (that might have been the debut of the profuse sweating and the ubiquitous hand towel, as I recall).

A former model, Whitney in her prime could out-sing the best of them. Who wasn't moved when she sang the national anthem at the Super Bowl? It was so rousing, it was released as a single!!! Put her right up there with all the other "divas" (the real ones -- Streisand, Wilson, Dion, LaBelle), and she could hold her own. She took the power ballad and, love it or hate it, made it commercial in the MTV era. And, her image, in the beginning, was squeaky clean.



So, all these years later, with her model looks and singing voice hammered by years of substance abuse and other issues, her life today probably is a cruel reminder of her past glory. We know addicts live in denial. But, they know the deal, deep down.

So, our challenge is to resist the urge to view Whitney as a pop-culture joke, even to resist seeing her as a train wreck in progress. We have to continue to see Whitney as a person worth saving. Because, quite honestly, at her best she represented the best we had to offer. And, look what has come of her.

So, it's up to us to save Whitney and all our Cousin Whitneys, all the people in her situation, to reach out to them and remind them that there's still greatness in them worth salvaging.

I agree with you 100 % but the only way for the prayers to work is for Whitney to make up her mind that needs help and for her to stay on the straight and narrow with it. Based on those comments she made, she still has a long way to go but when she makes up her mind to change, the prayers will finally kick in, I believe.


Yeah, I hear you. But, prayer also has been known to change someone's heart. wink
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Reply #40 posted 08/01/06 5:12pm

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ThreadBare said:

purplecam said:


I agree with you 100 % but the only way for the prayers to work is for Whitney to make up her mind that needs help and for her to stay on the straight and narrow with it. Based on those comments she made, she still has a long way to go but when she makes up her mind to change, the prayers will finally kick in, I believe.


Yeah, I hear you. But, prayer also has been known to change someone's heart. wink

You're absolutely right about that. nod By faith, it'll change her's,
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Reply #41 posted 08/01/06 5:48pm

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She IS indeed a legend BUT, like Rhonda said, her legacy in music will now go hand in hand w/ her own personal ills. When you think of Whitney Houston you don't think of a killer voice anymore, you think of what a mess she's made of herself, how she's taken a shit on a gift from God & how much of a damn shame it is disbelief
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Reply #42 posted 08/01/06 5:52pm

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As I read this two words came to mind... b*tch please. confused

me too.. wink
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Reply #43 posted 08/01/06 6:00pm

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CalhounSq said:

She IS indeed a legend BUT, like Rhonda said, her legacy in music will now go hand in hand w/ her own personal ills. When you think of Whitney Houston you don't think of a killer voice anymore, you think of what a mess she's made of herself, how she's taken a shit on a gift from God & how much of a damn shame it is disbelief

Too true disbelief
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Reply #44 posted 08/01/06 6:02pm

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She is a legend. She's also arrogant. She always has been. What was her problem with admitting it?
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Reply #45 posted 08/01/06 6:04pm

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theAudience said:

Martinelli said:

"I knew that I was in this unique category and I had a million employees in my hand, and I knew that if I ever acted on it or even said (that I was a legend), they would think I'm arrogant" says Houston.

"I didn’t know: Could that be the end of other divas? So I had that weight on me of like, ‘Wow, if I ever confirm what everyone already knew.' So I just never did," she says speaking about her status for the first time with PEOPLE.

"The thing is, I’m not ashamed – that’s the one thing I want to say," she explains of her decision to speak out. "I don't think it's selfish or arrogant, I'm not going to feel sorry for the others. I'm more liberated and happy than I’ve been my whole life. I'm just happy."

As for why she's talking about this now Houston says, "The main reason I wanted to speak my mind was that it's not my fault that I'm bigger than life. Now it feels like it's on my terms. I'm at peace with my family, my friends, myself and God so there's really nothing else that I worry about. I'm a legend and the rest of the world knows it."



...Y'all better wreckanize!



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Reply #46 posted 08/01/06 6:07pm

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ThreadBare said:

She is a legend. But, when it's all said and done, what will she be legendary for? Her talent or her addiction? Recognize her comments for what they could be -- a cry for help.

She and Bobby have become punchlines, but folks who were around when they both were in their primes know how they led their genres for a time. Both had crazy tours and record sales. Whitney even had an HBO special (that might have been the debut of the profuse sweating and the ubiquitous hand towel, as I recall).

A former model, Whitney in her prime could out-sing the best of them. Who wasn't moved when she sang the national anthem at the Super Bowl? It was so rousing, it was released as a single!!! Put her right up there with all the other "divas" (the real ones -- Streisand, Wilson, Dion, LaBelle), and she could hold her own. She took the power ballad and, love it or hate it, made it commercial in the MTV era. And, her image, in the beginning, was squeaky clean.



So, all these years later, with her model looks and singing voice hammered by years of substance abuse and other issues, her life today probably is a cruel reminder of her past glory. We know addicts live in denial. But, they know the deal, deep down.

So, our challenge is to resist the urge to view Whitney as a pop-culture joke, even to resist seeing her as a train wreck in progress. We have to continue to see Whitney as a person worth saving. Because, quite honestly, at her best she represented the best we had to offer. And, look what has come of her.

So, it's up to us to save Whitney and all our Cousin Whitneys, all the people in her situation, to reach out to them and remind them that there's still greatness in them worth salvaging.




shit, she's got fame and fortune. she can save herself. nobody but her, her friends and family can do it for her. she's worth saving. but for now, she remains a joke.
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Reply #47 posted 08/01/06 6:17pm

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her husband, or rather life sucking partner, is perhaps the biggest problem in her life. any man that would let his wife be filmed in her state of mind to promote himself is beyond pathetic. that man is fucking nasty. he is just as much responsible for her behaviour, and the safety and mental well being of his daughter. he is her pimp and her pusher. if she doesn't want the help, well then no one but her higher power can 'save her'. is she a legend?? to some she is. to each their own. until she cleans up, anything out of her mouth should be taken with a huge grain of *cough* ....salt.
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Reply #48 posted 08/01/06 6:23pm

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CHIC0 said:

her husband, or rather life sucking partner, is perhaps the biggest problem in her life. any man that would let his wife be filmed in her state of mind to promote himself is beyond pathetic. that man is fucking nasty. he is just as much responsible for her behaviour, and the safety and mental well being of his daughter. he is her pimp and her pusher. if she doesn't want the help, well then no one but her higher power can 'save her'. is she a legend?? to some she is. to each their own. until she cleans up, anything out of her mouth should be taken with a huge grain of *cough* ....salt.



I completely disagree with this. WHITNEY is the dominate personality in that relationship. They are co-dependent upon each other. Whitney is responsible for Whitney and she will only do what she wants to do. I only watched one episode of Being Bobby Brown and it was very clear to me that Bobby isn't the dominate one. I think you're way off the mark on this especially since it was rumored that Whitney was using before she met Bobby.


I was listening to some Whitney ballads recently and I'm just floored. This woman's voice was perfect. She was so blessed with a clear, strong and beautiful tool. I do have some hope that she will turn it around. I think that Bobby and Whitney need to separate because neither one is good for the other.
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Reply #49 posted 08/01/06 6:32pm

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Rhondab said:

strong and beautiful tool



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Reply #50 posted 08/01/06 6:39pm

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A legend to her dealer perhaps!!!!! eek
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Reply #51 posted 08/01/06 6:57pm

CHIC0

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I completely disagree with this.


of course you would..

WHITNEY is the dominate personality in that relationship. They are co-dependent upon each other. Whitney is responsible for Whitney and she will only do what she wants to do.


which is why i said, if she wants to get help.

I only watched one episode of Being Bobby Brown and it was very clear to me that Bobby isn't the dominate one. I think you're way off the mark on this especially since it was rumored that Whitney was using before she met Bobby. Bobby and Whitney need to separate because neither one is good for the other.


i didn't say he was the dominant one. i just think he doesn't help. and capitalizing on her name for his show, by allowing them to film her, speaks for itself.
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Reply #52 posted 08/01/06 10:18pm

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hmmm

is this from the Onion?



Are U from Wisconsin?
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Reply #53 posted 08/01/06 10:47pm

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People use the word legend about almost anyone, some people even call Madonna a legend. In Whitney`s case, it`s true, she IS a legend worship
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Reply #54 posted 08/01/06 11:12pm

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When I first read this post I thought it was a spoof article.

Even before we get to the problems she's facing and so on, I'm still stuck on her ramblings about being a legend. Wow. eek

That's jacked up.
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Reply #55 posted 08/01/06 11:37pm

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Rhondab said:

CHIC0 said:

her husband, or rather life sucking partner, is perhaps the biggest problem in her life. any man that would let his wife be filmed in her state of mind to promote himself is beyond pathetic. that man is fucking nasty. he is just as much responsible for her behaviour, and the safety and mental well being of his daughter. he is her pimp and her pusher. if she doesn't want the help, well then no one but her higher power can 'save her'. is she a legend?? to some she is. to each their own. until she cleans up, anything out of her mouth should be taken with a huge grain of *cough* ....salt.



I completely disagree with this. WHITNEY is the dominate personality in that relationship. They are co-dependent upon each other. Whitney is responsible for Whitney and she will only do what she wants to do. I only watched one episode of Being Bobby Brown and it was very clear to me that Bobby isn't the dominate one. I think you're way off the mark on this especially since it was rumored that Whitney was using before she met Bobby.


I was listening to some Whitney ballads recently and I'm just floored. This woman's voice was perfect. She was so blessed with a clear, strong and beautiful tool. I do have some hope that she will turn it around. I think that Bobby and Whitney need to separate because neither one is good for the other.


It was, and what really set her apart from other women with great voices is that she was strikingly beautiful. There were great singers like Stephanie Mills, Aretha Franklin (maybe a little earlier), and Deniece Williams but none of them would've been as popular in the post-MTV age when image is just about everything. Mariah and Christina succeed in the mold Whitney made but couldn't touch Whitney in her prime.
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Reply #56 posted 08/02/06 4:22am

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Rhondab said:

I completely disagree with this.


of course you would..



which is why i said, if she wants to get help.

I only watched one episode of Being Bobby Brown and it was very clear to me that Bobby isn't the dominate one. I think you're way off the mark on this especially since it was rumored that Whitney was using before she met Bobby. Bobby and Whitney need to separate because neither one is good for the other.


i didn't say he was the dominant one. i just think he doesn't help. and capitalizing on her name for his show, by allowing them to film her, speaks for itself.



of course I would?..confused..what does that mean? I love how ppl are passive aggressive. Say what you mean... shake I guess you can't disgree with folks. shrug


It doesn't speak for itself. It seems some were fooled by Whitney's good girl persona when many knew was "Hood". She used drugs, partied and did her thing BEFORE Bobby brown. Two addictive personalities shouldn't be together. Even in Whitney's addictive state, she does control the choices she makes. She wanted to be on that dumb ass show.

Bobby is an alcoholic. He DOES need help. That should be clear. And Whitney could have said NO, that she didn't want to be on the show. Whitney isn't a victim of Bobby Brown's narcastic ways, She supports them. That's her problem and that's why they are co-dependent. This isn't a situation where bobby has lured Whitney into anything. She embraces the chaos. They both are addicts and they both need help, individually. Whitney doesn't get a pass. She is responsible for her addiction and her own state of being. This isn't Bobby's fault. They are bad for EACH OTHER.


so there you go...I disagreed again....of course. lol
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Reply #57 posted 08/02/06 6:23am

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Reply #58 posted 08/02/06 9:19am

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I will always love Whitney.
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Reply #59 posted 08/02/06 10:08am

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Rhondab said:

CHIC0 said:



i didn't say he was the dominant one. i just think he doesn't help. and capitalizing on her name for his show, by allowing them to film her, speaks for itself.



of course I would?..confused..what does that mean? I love how ppl are passive aggressive. Say what you mean... shake I guess you can't disgree with folks. shrug


It doesn't speak for itself. It seems some were fooled by Whitney's good girl persona when many knew was "Hood". She used drugs, partied and did her thing BEFORE Bobby brown. Two addictive personalities shouldn't be together. Even in Whitney's addictive state, she does control the choices she makes. She wanted to be on that dumb ass show.

Bobby is an alcoholic. He DOES need help. That should be clear. And Whitney could have said NO, that she didn't want to be on the show. Whitney isn't a victim of Bobby Brown's narcastic ways, She supports them. That's her problem and that's why they are co-dependent. This isn't a situation where bobby has lured Whitney into anything. She embraces the chaos. They both are addicts and they both need help, individually. Whitney doesn't get a pass. She is responsible for her addiction and her own state of being. This isn't Bobby's fault. They are bad for EACH OTHER.


so there you go...I disagreed again....of course. lol

Wow Rhondab that was so on point. nod clapping
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