Believe it or not!!! James still got it!!!
I saw James Brown twice in the 90's and thought that
would gonna be the last time seeing him.
Even tho those shows had some highlights and so much better
compares to the shows he did in the 80's,he was still tired
and his voice was just a shadow of what it once was.

I was so close of not going to this show in Stockholm,
but a friend convinced me.
I don't know what happened but what saw yesterday was the
godfather of soul in supreme mood.
His voice got all the power back.I coold'nt beleve it!!!
I think he surpriced the whole audience.
Also the band sounded a whole lot better than the last time.
Less Las Vegas and more heavy funk and James was dancing again.

I was on one of the sides of the stage and when James Brown
came out on my side of the stage with is huge grin and
began to dance to the crowd on that end everybody went crazy
and it was so cool seeing this 70 something year old legend get down.
Still the hardest working man in showbusiness

/peace Manki
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did you say he still kicks his wife's ass? you be right

Fuck that violent rapist!

Do you know this man has settled SEVERAL sexual assault cases out of court?

He also has beaten numerous women.

FUCK HIM; HE DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE ADORED OR CALLED A LEGEND!!!!!

Jealous!

GangstaFam said:

Of what?
I hate skum like that.

I'm not jealous of Bono (e.g of rich legend) and he's a good man.

[flame snipped -Tom]
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i think the thead is about his professional talent, not his personal talent behind closed doors....

i'm sure there are Ike Turner fans of his music alone, but not fans of him personally because of him beating Tina...
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mikek1 said:

I don't buy this settling out of court shit on face value.
If somebody hurts you and you take their money, how trustworthy are YOU?

....anyways highjackers, back to the topic.
I saw him a couple months ago and he rocked the party hard!
And he sang a beaut soul ballad in the name of peace. It was religious.

You're right his band is kickass. I just hope when he's done touring for whatever reason, that his band can carry on playin.
I would pay to see them even after he's gone. They rippin some super heavy funk!
I would like to hear some of the less well known material from early 70's.
When the band came out at his show (before James came on stage) they did a lil introduction medley and played the start of "The Big Payback" with full backround vocals and all. EPIC!
That horn section is massive too. Got me wishin I could go dance to a band like that next weekend...doh.

nd33 said:

exactly.

James Brown in the context of music is still a great performer. Which has nothing to do with his personal life. I agree to be his age and be a great performer still is off the meter. There are people who are half his age and can't do what he does. That deserves respect and all he has done for music as a whole should be respected.
It should be remembered that he, Ike and ELVIS (YES ELVIS IS DOCUMENTED AS ABUSING A WOMAN OR 2 in his lifetime) were raised in different era. NOT EXCUSING THEM NOR MAKING LIGHT OF THE ACTIONS. Sadly that era there was nothing wrong with 'putting a woman in her place' Thankfully times changed and we all know it is wrong to be abusive. Do not let a legacy be destroy because a person is a jack@$$.
.....Stepping off my soapbox now.....

DecaturStone said:

exactly.

I believe James Brown is a masterentertainer on stage,
but his personal life often seem to be a mess.
Another atist that comes to mind is Michael Jackson.
Total perfectionist and superpro when it comes to his art,
but always seem to get in trouble when he's out of the limelight.

Btw,one of the biggest swedish newpapers "svd" gave yesterdays
show 5 out of 5 in their review!
/peace Manki

Yes he can still do it. But he says that after an evening of doing the splits and all those other James Brown dances. He needs about 3 days to recuperate. "Try Me" is my favorite JB song.

DecaturStone said:

Oh!! Oh!!

funkpill said:

mikek1 said:

http://oldies.about.com/o...sbooks.htm
Several books have been published. whoops!
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DecaturStone said:

Which one documents his violence?

mikek1 said:

when has he ever been accused of rape anyway? And of course he deserves to be called a legend because HE IS a legend, he's one of the most enduringly talented entertainers and one of the most powerful forces in the history of popular music, that alone makes him (or at least his art) worthy of respect.

besides, if we were to judge performers, artists, or hell any celebrity or historical figure based on their personal lives we'd probably have to condemn more than half of the people who are idolized, in any field. John Lennon is practically deified and he beat his first wife, cheated on her, beat many of his girlfriends, completely abandoned his firstborn son, courted yoko ono while still married and even eventually even cheated on her for two years in LA. And then of course there's Chuck Berry, Jimi, Sly, Michael Jackson, Ike Turner..popular music is littered with people who could be called "scumbags" based on their treatment of women (or even of other human beings in general). Abraham Lincoln was a racist and was despised by the more radical/progressive wing of his own party for not being willing to go far enough (and it was the radical republican congress' passing of the 13th, 14th and 15th ammendments that actually freed the slaves, not the emancipation proclamation). Thomas Edison was a bully and reactionary who creatively stifled a lot of his cohorts like Nichola Tesla. Louis Armstrong was a total pothead. Charlie Parker was a heroine junkie. Mozart was a compulsive gambler and uncouth eccentric. Winston Churchill orchestrated some of most destructive saturation bombing campaigns of civilian centers in history (which were far more destructive and killed far more civilians than the blitzkrieg). H.P Lovecraft was a racist and eugenist. I could go on and on and on, point is there's tons of people who may not have airtight personal lives but who's accomplishments still make them worthy of admiration. A peron's personal character does not affect the value of their art or achievement (or it shouldn't anyway).
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Damn right.

oh one more thing, if you were to judge people solely by their personal lives and not by their historical or artistic influence than some people who ARE condemned and despised might come out more favorably. Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian who completely eschewed alcohol and narcotics and was more or less monogamous, a lot of people who knew him personally thought of him as a very refined, nice guy (his favorite movie was snow white too) whereas Roosevelt was an adulterer, Churchill was an alcoholic AND adulterer and even Ghandi (if you believe some of the scenes in his eponymous biopic with Ben kingsley) occasionally hit his wife. Vladimir Lenin was a pretty devoted family man and also a very convivial guy with his friends, he just happened to be an authoritarian and a hypocrit who willfully abandoned a lot of the ideals he claimed to fight for and caused the death and/or imprisonment of millions through civil war and police oppression.

jacktheimprovident said:

well said

mikek1 said:

I'm jealous because I love JB and have never seen him live.

James Brown in and out of context.....


http://www.youtube.com/wa...es%20brown

http://www.youtube.com/wa...es%20brown

I saw him in 1999 and it was one of the baddest shows I've seen.



And (bleep) you mother(bleep) d'void o' funk, hating azz, no rhythm having (bleep) who wanna come on here and jack this mother(bleep) thread!!

manki said:

Glad to see that The Hardest Working Man in Show Business can still bring it.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

Adisa said:

There's already been a thread about separating a performer's artistic and personal life.
Some of these tricks act like they're personal friends, close relatives or married to these entertainers.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

I was lucky enough to see a JB show about three years ago, and I was shocked at how good it was. I was expecting his voice to be shot (not at all), and I was afraid we were going to get glitzy Vegas-style arrangements, but the music was lean, hard funk for the most part. He even moved pretty well all things considered.

jacktheimprovident said:

Doing drugs is nowhere near as bad as being violent.

Lou armstong a pothead? Good that's a positive thing. A bud from the most useful plant in the world is not a chemical; therefore technically not even a drug; don't believe goverment propaganda!

Gambler? What's so bad about that(compared to violence and rape).

Where are there any statements Lennon was violent?
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mikek1 said:

Alright so some of the character flaws of some celebrities aren't as bad as others, but there's others that I could have listed, point is there's many respects in which these people aren't the best role models. But when I listen to music or look at a painting or consider the impact of political movements of philosophies I'm not thinking of whether or not I'd want to be that person's spouse or friend.

As for the pothead thing, it's not a matter of government propaganda, I personally eschew taking intoxicating substances, marijuana included and would not consider everyday use of marijuana something to aspire to. No I don't think it's as pernicious as most other drugs but it's still not good and can cause people to be severely lazy (plus it widens your synapses with frequent use, which slows down reflexes and thought processes). Oh and THC Is a chemical, albeit an organic one, and most "drugs" narcotics or otherwise are derived from organic chemicals that are produced by plants.

As for where has it been stated that John Lennon was violent. How about this one from John Lennon himself, in refernce to the line "I used to be cruel to my woman I beat her and kept her away from the things that she loved " that he added to the song "Getting Better". Also, look for what Julian Lennon has to say about his father; he considers him a deadbeat and that Paul was really much more his father than John ever was:

"It is a diary form of writing. All that 'I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved' was me. I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically... any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn't express myself and I hit. I fought men and I hit women. That is why I am always on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace. Everything's the opposite. But I sincerely believe in love and peace. I am a violent man who has learned not to be violent and regrets his violence. I will have to be a lot older before I can face in public how I treated women as a youngster."
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manki said:

PLEASE! I saw him in 2000, and when he came out, they had to point him in the direction of the front of the stage! He was facing backwards and was confused!

It was hilarious. Still got it, my ass.
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PLEASE! I saw him in 2000, and when he came out, they had to point him in the direction of the front of the stage! He was facing backwards and was confused!

It sounds like James was trying to get on the good foot.