is 3121 Prince doing Beck?

BlaqueKnight said:

what's your problem?

BlaqueKnight said:

I agree with your sentiment. However, I think Beck is the shit. If there's any song that's remotely close to a parody of Prince I think this is the one. But I think Beck gets the seal of approval of genuine artistry and not some overrated novelty act.

thebige said:

i'm not casting any absolutes. i do know the "kind" who would dismiss beck because he has an element of art and flash and showmanship to his work, as if that somehow diminishes the "seriousness" of his music. funny thing is, on a totally personal level, i think beck's craftmanship gets in the way of his originality as an artist more often than not, and while i'm a big fan of beck, i'd love to see him loosen up more as a musician and fuse more seamlessly with the showman side of himself.

namepeace said:

Exactly, his whole thing is meant to be satirical--"tricked out Hyundais, fresh packs of gum, Thursday night I think I'm pregnant again"

Beck takes his music seriously, and it's really good, but the whole thing is a bit of a joke, kind of like Zappa.

That's the difference between him & Lenny, who seems to take his own image seriously.

IstenSzek said:

That's a nice way of putting it.

lilgish said:

I think it's the same as the people who say Mary J Blige singing off key is ok because she does it with "emotion".

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Beck's singing isn't his strongest point. But unlike Mary, he does a lot of other things. He definitely samples, literally & figuratively, but the end result is highly original to me.

I've seen him do a one man show of folk music, telling stories that were brilliant & hilarious, and I've seen him lead a huge funky band & inspiring thousands of people to dance. Somehow they were both completely in character. He didn't need to become Chris Gaines to do something different. He's a dork who does it all.

I understand not liking him (particularly for his singing & lack of passion) but he's got a lot of talent, and probably even the haters would have to admit he's got good taste.

BlaqueKnight said:

dude, Beck is NOT a "novelty" or "comedy" act, tho he dabbled in those areas early on. i think it's really funny how people like you only remember the "Loser" song and such... Beck can stretch out much further than that... try and track down an Odelay live bootleg on DVD... Beck is his own thing man... i can see that's a problem for some Jeff Beck-type fans tho.

mrdespues said:

I'm not tracking down a damn thing. I've heard Odelay. It was representation enough of his faux-funk, Beatle-around-the-bush, non-singing azz for me not to be interested in him. Beck. I'm not feeling him.
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BlaqueKnight said:

oh I forgot co-sign.


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BlaqueKnight said:

whatever, man... "Debra" is one of my least favourite Beck songs anyway... and I get where you're coming from to a certain degree, but Beck has songs that can really "move" you, too...and he works with some of the best musos in the industry..... his silly shit shouldn't be taken seriously... it's a laugh, right? probably why so many Americans mistake him for English... it's called IRONY, America! unfortunately peeps in this forum don't understand the lighter side of music sometimes it seems

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lilgish said:

i'm not talking about Debra, which is grating to my ears, i'm
talking about the entire Sea Change album.

have you heard that one? surely you don't think there's anything
phony in his delivery on that record.

it's more personal than Prince's "The Truth" or "One Nite Alone"
in each and ever song.

IstenSzek said:

i don't think it's more personal than 'the truth' or (espcially) 'one nite alone', but it is an extremely powerful album. i think it's the first beck album where he actually SINGS like a man who has a voice, instead of just trying to sound too kool for skool. i don't know how much of the "real" beck we really get on any of his albums - i get a feeling he's very good at keeping his personal life and feelings very well protected from the public - but "sea change" was one of the most moving, organic albums i'd heard in a long time. it's a cut above the rest of his albums.

yes Sea Change is great.....and that made me take Beck a bit more seriously....it's a great listen if you have just broken up with someone as well

He's SO good at ripping people o...I mean, doing pastiches. That Serge Gainsbourg one on "Sea Change" was so good.

I think he's shit, and can't sing for shit.

End of story.

Mong said:

you've convinced me. i'll throw out all his cd's when i get home

IstenSzek said:

TOTALLY. i never thought about it this way before. i feel all revelated and shit. i'm going to burn all my beck albums and replace them with mong CDs!

Anx said:

what was the number of those people who put a steamroller
over Sinead's cd's? i want them to do my beck collection.

IstenSzek said:

don't waste your money! i'll be over with my combat boots and a rolling pin and i'll do it myself! and i'll bring my beck cds...erm, i mean RUBBISH...with me! it'll be like a bra burning party! we must break these chains of beck that have been oppressing us!

Anx said:

i'll see if i can rally up some more people over here. everyone
should come and burn their beck albums to liberate themselves

IstenSzek said:

cool. i'll write the united nations and see if we can get mr. hanson tried before a war tribunal or something.

Anx said:

i almost all of his prolific output. but let's burn it.

mrdespues said:

i'm gonna have to buy a verb, comrade. come again?

Anx said:

i mean, i own almost everything he's done

IstenSzek said:

No, there isn't. It's sincere to one emotion, one delivery, plastic ono band it is not.

lilgish said:

it's true. beck is not attempting to recreate his own childbirth by way of primal scream therapy on that album.

lilgish said:

Ditto! & FACT! Nothing about that performance that I Just seen makes me think of Prince in any way. I just had to cut it short, I couldn't finish watching the whole thing.

Anx said:

Count me in too!