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PrintableVinnyM27 said: TotalAlisa said: I know I'll be buying it as soon as it hits stores, but this is disheartening. Please Janet, no more aural porn a'la "Would You Mind" or "Warmth". "Anytime, Anyplace" was all you ever needed to say on the subject. Nothing will ever top that song. quote] i agree... also... janet is being stubborn.... she needs to stop talking so much about sex... if thats all she can talk about then something's wrong cause she is 40 years old and theres more to life than that... and that is the least important thing in the world It's not that she needs to stop talking about sex but when the albums just have more and more sex songs and less and less of an identity...."All For You" felt like a breakup album, even with the chunk of sort of useless (but OK) sex songs thrown in,,,,what the fuck was DJ about? Nothing! I'm with you. At least with All For You there was a theme. I can even take her interludes, but Damita Jo was just vapid even the interludes had me going, "what the hell is she talking about-- '...humidity".. of course I like music..." I need her to go do some movies, get away for a while, read some books, explore life because there has to be more. I refuse to believe there is nothing else in a 40 year old woman's life but sex. Not even sensuality- just plain raunch. But, I will be there to support, hoping for the best. And I still want her to keep it real and remember the first 2 albums. "Young Love", "Say You Do", "Fast Girls", "Don't Stand Another Chance-" come on J J, keep it funky! You know what time it is. [Edited 7/23/06 0:59am] | |
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VinnyM27 said: TotalAlisa said: I know I'll be buying it as soon as it hits stores, but this is disheartening. Please Janet, no more aural porn a'la "Would You Mind" or "Warmth". "Anytime, Anyplace" was all you ever needed to say on the subject. Nothing will ever top that song. quote] i agree... also... janet is being stubborn.... she needs to stop talking so much about sex... if thats all she can talk about then something's wrong cause she is 40 years old and theres more to life than that... and that is the least important thing in the world It's not that she needs to stop talking about sex but when the albums just have more and more sex songs and less and less of an identity...."All For You" felt like a breakup album, even with the chunk of sort of useless (but OK) sex songs thrown in,,,,what the fuck was DJ about? Nothing! Damita Jo was a love album. | |
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This era is going to be...interesting.  I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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im starting to realize how important Rene was to her image and success after Control.
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sosgemini said: im starting to realize how important Rene was to her image and success after Control.
I don't go by that theory since "Control" is probably her best album. And the "All For You" tour, while overlong, was still a great show without him. And "Damita Jo" had some great songs without him... I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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badujunkie said: sosgemini said: im starting to realize how important Rene was to her image and success after Control.
I don't go by that theory since "Control" is probably her best album. And the "All For You" tour, while overlong, was still a great show without him. And "Damita Jo" had some great songs without him... yeah...control is the anomoly of the bunch. but while enjoyed the bulk of the All For You album I would say thats when her "star" appeal started to wane with me... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: im starting to realize how important Rene was to her image and success after Control.
Rene just kept her off the lithium. | |
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VoicesCarry said: sosgemini said: im starting to realize how important Rene was to her image and success after Control.
Rene just kept her off the lithium. what about the diet pills? were the daily colonics his idea? I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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badujunkie said: VoicesCarry said: Rene just kept her off the lithium. what about the diet pills? were the daily colonics his idea? No, she's just been a space cadet since the divorce. She's on some sort of antidepressant, I'm sure. | |
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badujunkie said: sosgemini said: im starting to realize how important Rene was to her image and success after Control.
I don't go by that theory since "Control" is probably her best album. And the "All For You" tour, while overlong, was still a great show without him. And "Damita Jo" had some great songs without him... All For You was a good tour? RN1814 Tour: Control Nasty What Have You Done For Me Lately? Let's Wait Awhile When I Think Of You The Pleasure Principle State of The World The Knowledge Black Cat Come Back To Me Alright Escapade Miss You Much Rhythm Nation Janet Tour If What Have You Done For Me Lately? Nasty Let's Wait Awhile Come Back To Me Throb When I Think Of You Escapade Miss You Much Love Will Never Do (Without You) Alright What'll I Do Any Time, Any Place Again Where Are You Now (not played at all shows) And On and On (not played at all shows) Black Cat (not played at all shows) Rhythm Nation This Time (not played at all shows) That's The Way Love Goes Because Of Love (not played at all shows) You Want This (not played at all shows) Whoops Now (not played at all shows) Velvet Rope Tour Interlude - Twisted Elegance/Velvet Rope If You Let's Wait Awhile / Again Control Medley (Control, The Pleasure Principle, What Have You Done for Me Lately, Nasty) Throb Escapade Medley (Escapade, When I Think of You, Miss You Much, Runaway, Love Will Never Do (Without You)) Alright (not played at all shows) I Get Lonely Anytime, Anyplace Rope Burn Black Cat (not played at all shows) What About (not played at all shows) Rhythm Nation Special That's the Way Love Goes Got Til It's Gone Go Deep (not played at all shows) Together Again All For You Tour Come On Get Up You Ain't Right All For You Love Will Never Do (Without You) Trust A Try Come Back to Me Let's Wait A While Again Whimsical Medley: Runaway, Miss You Much, When I Think Of You, Escapade Son Of A Gun (I Betcha Think This Song is About You) Got 'Til It's Gone That's The Way Love Goes Control Medley: What Have You Done For Me Lately, Control, Nasty Alright (not played at all shows) Would You Mind If Black Cat (not played at all shows) Rhythm Nation / The Knowledge Encore Doesn't Really Matter Someone to Call My Lover Together Again it's basically the same tour over and over again [Edited 7/23/06 11:32am] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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sosgemini said: im starting to realize how important Rene was to her image and success after Control.
It seems like Rene was more in tune with what the typical Janet fan would have liked to hear from her. Now that he's gone, Janet might have lost that link to the consumer. Sounds like some other artist I know.  | |
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sextonseven said: Sounds like some other artist I know.  "Black Sweat" is exactly what people wanted. | |
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CinisterCee said: sextonseven said: Sounds like some other artist I know. "Black Sweat" is exactly what people wanted.Now we know where Rene went. | |
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sextonseven said: CinisterCee said: "Black Sweat" is exactly what people wanted.Now we know where Rene went. hahaahaha | |
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ehuffnsd said: badujunkie said: I don't go by that theory since "Control" is probably her best album. And the "All For You" tour, while overlong, was still a great show without him. And "Damita Jo" had some great songs without him... All For You was a good tour? RN1814 Tour: Control Nasty What Have You Done For Me Lately? Let's Wait Awhile When I Think Of You The Pleasure Principle State of The World The Knowledge Black Cat Come Back To Me Alright Escapade Miss You Much Rhythm Nation Janet Tour If What Have You Done For Me Lately? Nasty Let's Wait Awhile Come Back To Me Throb When I Think Of You Escapade Miss You Much Love Will Never Do (Without You) Alright What'll I Do Any Time, Any Place Again Where Are You Now (not played at all shows) And On and On (not played at all shows) Black Cat (not played at all shows) Rhythm Nation This Time (not played at all shows) That's The Way Love Goes Because Of Love (not played at all shows) You Want This (not played at all shows) Whoops Now (not played at all shows) Velvet Rope Tour Interlude - Twisted Elegance/Velvet Rope If You Let's Wait Awhile / Again Control Medley (Control, The Pleasure Principle, What Have You Done for Me Lately, Nasty) Throb Escapade Medley (Escapade, When I Think of You, Miss You Much, Runaway, Love Will Never Do (Without You)) Alright (not played at all shows) I Get Lonely Anytime, Anyplace Rope Burn Black Cat (not played at all shows) What About (not played at all shows) Rhythm Nation Special That's the Way Love Goes Got Til It's Gone Go Deep (not played at all shows) Together Again All For You Tour Come On Get Up You Ain't Right All For You Love Will Never Do (Without You) Trust A Try Come Back to Me Let's Wait A While Again Whimsical Medley: Runaway, Miss You Much, When I Think Of You, Escapade Son Of A Gun (I Betcha Think This Song is About You) Got 'Til It's Gone That's The Way Love Goes Control Medley: What Have You Done For Me Lately, Control, Nasty Alright (not played at all shows) Would You Mind If Black Cat (not played at all shows) Rhythm Nation / The Knowledge Encore Doesn't Really Matter Someone to Call My Lover Together Again it's basically the same tour over and over again [Edited 7/23/06 11:32am] I was talking about the showmanship, costumes, choreography, band, dancers, entertainment value...the one show I REALLY want to see up close and personal is RN tour...So jealous of those who saw that and her "Control" and "Rhythm Nation" songs as full length and not crammed into minute long portions of medleys... I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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badujunkie said: ehuffnsd said: All For You was a good tour? RN1814 Tour: Control Nasty What Have You Done For Me Lately? Let's Wait Awhile When I Think Of You The Pleasure Principle State of The World The Knowledge Black Cat Come Back To Me Alright Escapade Miss You Much Rhythm Nation Janet Tour If What Have You Done For Me Lately? Nasty Let's Wait Awhile Come Back To Me Throb When I Think Of You Escapade Miss You Much Love Will Never Do (Without You) Alright What'll I Do Any Time, Any Place Again Where Are You Now (not played at all shows) And On and On (not played at all shows) Black Cat (not played at all shows) Rhythm Nation This Time (not played at all shows) That's The Way Love Goes Because Of Love (not played at all shows) You Want This (not played at all shows) Whoops Now (not played at all shows) Velvet Rope Tour Interlude - Twisted Elegance/Velvet Rope If You Let's Wait Awhile / Again Control Medley (Control, The Pleasure Principle, What Have You Done for Me Lately, Nasty) Throb Escapade Medley (Escapade, When I Think of You, Miss You Much, Runaway, Love Will Never Do (Without You)) Alright (not played at all shows) I Get Lonely Anytime, Anyplace Rope Burn Black Cat (not played at all shows) What About (not played at all shows) Rhythm Nation Special That's the Way Love Goes Got Til It's Gone Go Deep (not played at all shows) Together Again All For You Tour Come On Get Up You Ain't Right All For You Love Will Never Do (Without You) Trust A Try Come Back to Me Let's Wait A While Again Whimsical Medley: Runaway, Miss You Much, When I Think Of You, Escapade Son Of A Gun (I Betcha Think This Song is About You) Got 'Til It's Gone That's The Way Love Goes Control Medley: What Have You Done For Me Lately, Control, Nasty Alright (not played at all shows) Would You Mind If Black Cat (not played at all shows) Rhythm Nation / The Knowledge Encore Doesn't Really Matter Someone to Call My Lover Together Again it's basically the same tour over and over again [Edited 7/23/06 11:32am] I was talking about the showmanship, costumes, choreography, band, dancers, entertainment value...the one show I REALLY want to see up close and personal is RN tour...So jealous of those who saw that and her "Control" and "Rhythm Nation" songs as full length and not crammed into minute long portions of medleys... Apparently she came to Edmonton, Alberta with the RN tour and I missed it (grade 3). I didn't even know until I saw someone with a concert shirt at school - I was so jealous! | |
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CinisterCee said: badujunkie said: I was talking about the showmanship, costumes, choreography, band, dancers, entertainment value...the one show I REALLY want to see up close and personal is RN tour...So jealous of those who saw that and her "Control" and "Rhythm Nation" songs as full length and not crammed into minute long portions of medleys... Apparently she came to Edmonton, Alberta with the RN tour and I missed it (grade 3). I didn't even know until I saw someone with a concert shirt at school - I was so jealous! I saw that tour in college. She had a live panther or something onstage for "Black Cat". I read that the cat didn't do the entire tour. It was becoming unmanageable. | |
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sextonseven said: CinisterCee said: Apparently she came to Edmonton, Alberta with the RN tour and I missed it (grade 3). I didn't even know until I saw someone with a concert shirt at school - I was so jealous! I saw that tour in college. She had a live panther or something onstage for "Black Cat". I read that the cat didn't do the entire tour. It was becoming unmanageable. Fuuuuck tell me more! | |
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sextonseven said: CinisterCee said: Apparently she came to Edmonton, Alberta with the RN tour and I missed it (grade 3). I didn't even know until I saw someone with a concert shirt at school - I was so jealous! I saw that tour in college. She had a live panther or something onstage for "Black Cat". I read that the cat didn't do the entire tour. It was becoming unmanageable. Actually, she dropped it because animal rights activists were concerned with its treatment and the effect moving all the time would have on its health. | |
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VoicesCarry said: sextonseven said: I saw that tour in college. She had a live panther or something onstage for "Black Cat". I read that the cat didn't do the entire tour. It was becoming unmanageable. Actually, she dropped it because animal rights activists were concerned with its treatment and the effect moving all the time would have on its health. I would consider that unmanageable. Sorta.  | |
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sextonseven said: CinisterCee said: Apparently she came to Edmonton, Alberta with the RN tour and I missed it (grade 3). I didn't even know until I saw someone with a concert shirt at school - I was so jealous! I saw that tour in college. She had a live panther or something onstage for "Black Cat". I read that the cat didn't do the entire tour. It was becoming unmanageable. oh wow...never new that...by the time she came to the bay area the cat was gone i guess.  Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: sextonseven said: I saw that tour in college. She had a live panther or something onstage for "Black Cat". I read that the cat didn't do the entire tour. It was becoming unmanageable. oh wow...never new that...by the time she came to the bay area the cat was gone i guess. tell me more!!!!! I know it was a long time ago but c'mon. | |
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CinisterCee said: sextonseven said: I saw that tour in college. She had a live panther or something onstage for "Black Cat". I read that the cat didn't do the entire tour. It was becoming unmanageable. Fuuuuck tell me more! That's about all I remember (gettin' old ). That and the whole Black Cat sequence was pretty close to the video--I was waiting for her shirt to fly open like the in the clip. | |
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I read somewhere that the panther peed on stage and Janet (or one of the dancers, can't remember now) slipped in it and fell. As the story seemed really absurd, it always stuck with me.
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CinisterCee said: sosgemini said: oh wow...never new that...by the time she came to the bay area the cat was gone i guess. tell me more!!!!! I know it was a long time ago but c'mon. well, it was pretty much the same show she's been doing the last decade. 
just kidding...if i remember correctly the stage set-up was the same as in Black Cat. she made her concert intro via an elevator in the middle of the stage...the stage itself was pretty minimal (which i liked)...it was a very basic low effects/heavy on the dancing affair. the outfits were simple 1814 black/white inspired...nothing glam, but it worked for her. I remember them showing the Come Back To Me video while she did a costume change... and i remember my friends and i doing the entire choreography to Escapade at one point and everyone in our section clapping and watching us... oh lord, how embarassing...  Space for sale... | |
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Krytonite said: VinnyM27 said: It's not that she needs to stop talking about sex but when the albums just have more and more sex songs and less and less of an identity...."All For You" felt like a breakup album, even with the chunk of sort of useless (but OK) sex songs thrown in,,,,what the fuck was DJ about? Nothing! Damita Jo was a love album. i didnt get that theme from the songs she had on Damita jo... like All night, just a lil while, Damita jo, sexhibition werent about love... the slow songs on DJ were so boring... and those were the worst songs... i like her dance songs the best...cause its like she has to get all graphic in her slow songs... im starting to not like her as much... cause after hearing how she slept with matthew Mck... what ever his name is and justin timberlake... who else did she sleep with... why should i support someone that does that kind of stuff when i AM 100% against that.... also was rene even around when janet did control... jimmy said he was not in the studio when they wrote and created those songs... so stop giving that loser for a man... any credit for janets career... |
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sosgemini said: CinisterCee said: tell me more!!!!! I know it was a long time ago but c'mon. well, it was pretty much the same show she's been doing the last decade.
just kidding...if i remember correctly the stage set-up was the same as in Black Cat. she made her concert intro via an elevator in the middle of the stage...the stage itself was pretty minimal (which i liked)...it was a very basic low effects/heavy on the dancing affair. the outfits were simple 1814 black/white inspired...nothing glam, but it worked for her. I remember them showing the Come Back To Me video while she did a costume change... and i remember my friends and i doing the entire choreography to Escapade at one point and everyone in our section clapping and watching us... oh lord, how embarassing... Damn, that's a lot more than what I remember! That's why I began writing concert reviews for myself this year. Of the hundreds of shows I've seen, I have no recollection of some of them. | |
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sosgemini said: CinisterCee said: tell me more!!!!! I know it was a long time ago but c'mon. well, it was pretty much the same show she's been doing the last decade.
just kidding...if i remember correctly the stage set-up was the same as in Black Cat. she made her concert intro via an elevator in the middle of the stage...the stage itself was pretty minimal (which i liked)...it was a very basic low effects/heavy on the dancing affair. the outfits were simple 1814 black/white inspired...nothing glam, but it worked for her. I remember them showing the Come Back To Me video while she did a costume change... and i remember my friends and i doing the entire choreography to Escapade at one point and everyone in our section clapping and watching us... oh lord, how embarassing... hehe cool.  | |
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musicman said: VinnyM27 said: It's not that she needs to stop talking about sex but when the albums just have more and more sex songs and less and less of an identity...."All For You" felt like a breakup album, even with the chunk of sort of useless (but OK) sex songs thrown in,,,,what the fuck was DJ about? Nothing! I'm with you. At least with All For You there was a theme. I can even take her interludes, but Damita Jo was just vapid even the interludes had me going, "what the hell is she talking about-- '...humidity".. of course I like music..." I need her to go do some movies, get away for a while, read some books, explore life because there has to be more. I refuse to believe there is nothing else in a 40 year old woman's life but sex. Not even sensuality- just plain raunch. But, I will be there to support, hoping for the best. And I still want her to keep it real and remember the first 2 albums. "Young Love", "Say You Do", "Fast Girls", "Don't Stand Another Chance-" come on J J, keep it funky! You know what time it is. [Edited 7/23/06 0:59am] Well I'll buy the Cd as soon as it comes out....hoping for the best....expecting the worst. | |
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Krytonite said: VinnyM27 said: It's not that she needs to stop talking about sex but when the albums just have more and more sex songs and less and less of an identity...."All For You" felt like a breakup album, even with the chunk of sort of useless (but OK) sex songs thrown in,,,,what the fuck was DJ about? Nothing! Damita Jo was a love album. Could've fooled me. Yeah, a lot of songs where about love but others....dare I say some of the stronger ones, show or could've shown a different part of personality. They were some real forceful, cool pop songs like "All Nite", "Like You Don't Love Me" and "Sexhibition"...and sadly, the sexy "Put Your Hands On" was taken off. I think it could've been a stronger album had it not tried to be R&B....now this one will try to go for the Clear Channel jugular rather than the kind of dance record that fans have been wanting for years! | |
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