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Thread started 07/19/06 2:22am

Harlepolis

Faith Evans: One Of The "Born In The Wrong Time & Place" Cases

This per4mance is a REASON why Faith's talent shouldn't be neglected at all:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...th%20Evans
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Reply #1 posted 07/19/06 9:05am

Ottensen

Harlepolis said:

This per4mance is a REASON why Faith's talent shouldn't be neglected at all:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...th%20Evans


WOW. That gal can sing.

As soon as she opened her mouth I got goosebumps.

Thanx for the tip!
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Reply #2 posted 07/19/06 9:13am

RipHer2Shreds

Nice clip, Harle! Faith's got a good voice that often times reminds me of early Chaka. Her biggest problem musically is that she's not involved with people (i.e. Puffy) that really know how to utilize her talent and challenge her vocally. She could do so much more than she has.
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Reply #3 posted 07/19/06 9:53am

Moonwalkbjrain

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nod she sounds great there, and usually does
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #4 posted 07/19/06 10:10am

Harlepolis

RipHer2Shreds said:

Nice clip, Harle! Faith's got a good voice that often times reminds me of early Chaka. Her biggest problem musically is that she's not involved with people (i.e. Puffy) that really know how to utilize her talent and challenge her vocally. She could do so much more than she has.


She got that jazz thing going on too, thats why I can fuck with her. I knew about it all along, and then she said in one interview that she learned most of her vocal tricks from BETTY CARTER.

Come 2 think of it, she does echo Betty Carter in Love Can't Hide's bridge music

Now ain't that something? lol
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Reply #5 posted 07/19/06 11:43am

boriquateddy

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I always been a fan of Miss Fay...she does have lungs...I think alot of people sleep on her because when she was first intorduced she was supposed to be Mary J's competion...IMO I think she is vocally superior to Miss Mary J....love'em both...but Faith just gives you raw emotion.
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
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Reply #6 posted 07/19/06 12:03pm

legendofnothin
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WOW! She was so beautiful. What happened to her. She sang her ass off.Classic. If you want to see another WOW! moment. Whatch Patti Labelle sing a tribute To Whitney Houston, with the song I Have Nothing at the Essence Awards.
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Reply #7 posted 07/19/06 3:42pm

missfee

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boriquateddy said:

I always been a fan of Miss Fay...she does have lungs...I think alot of people sleep on her because when she was first intorduced she was supposed to be Mary J's competion...IMO I think she is vocally superior to Miss Mary J....love'em both...but Faith just gives you raw emotion.

i've been saying this for a while nod
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #8 posted 07/19/06 3:46pm

missfee

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I think the red hair is so becoming to Faith, i never liked her with the blond hair, when she came out with the red hair, I thought she looked so beautiful!!!
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #9 posted 07/19/06 9:10pm

CinisterCee

The last album that came out that wasn't the Christmas album... I didn't hear a single thing from it.

I slept on it... but I have her first 3
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Reply #10 posted 07/19/06 10:09pm

menace

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I like faith, but the quality material just has not been there for me. I've loved the hit singles, other than that...blah
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Reply #11 posted 07/20/06 2:07am

Harlepolis

Thats the trouble!

Chaka has said it in an interview.My only beef with Faith is her material.

I think Faith should go back to the basics, nothing but organic musicianship that showcases her voice. All the plastic cheesy sampling shit aside.
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Reply #12 posted 07/20/06 2:15am

Mong

Harlepolis said:

Thats the trouble!

Chaka has said it in an interview.My only beef with Faith is her material.

I think Faith should go back to the basics, nothing but organic musicianship that showcases her voice. All the plastic cheesy sampling shit aside.



I completely agree. She pisses all over Mary J. Bilge.
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Reply #13 posted 07/20/06 8:59am

Scorpion

Faith Evans is the SH*T ! (check avatar)

We both have the same favorite singer. biggrin
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #14 posted 07/20/06 10:51am

Harlepolis

Can you post a larger pic, please? sexy
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Reply #15 posted 07/20/06 11:20am

ABeautifulOne

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I like her song True Luv
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Reply #16 posted 07/20/06 1:29pm

boriquateddy

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ABeautifulOne said:

I like her song True Luv




I like that song too....but the track does kind of sound like Usher's "You got it bad"
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
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Reply #17 posted 07/20/06 1:35pm

sosgemini

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Mong said:

Harlepolis said:

Thats the trouble!

Chaka has said it in an interview.My only beef with Faith is her material.

I think Faith should go back to the basics, nothing but organic musicianship that showcases her voice. All the plastic cheesy sampling shit aside.



I completely agree. She pisses all over Mary J. Bilge.


vocally? yes...but her execution can lack dynamic when she doesnt work with the right folks or songs.

mary seems to be able to control her output much better...and keeps rising and gaining access to better material.

on the other hand, faith is busy getting busted for drugs.

biggrin
Space for sale...
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Reply #18 posted 07/20/06 4:27pm

ABeautifulOne

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boriquateddy said:

ABeautifulOne said:

I like her song True Luv




I like that song too....but the track does kind of sound like Usher's "You got it bad"



That because Jermaine Dupri fashions damn near all of his beats to sound the same and they sound so damn basic like when he did Still by Tamia
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Reply #19 posted 07/21/06 10:58am

Harlepolis

The shit she releases is the leftovers of what she REALLY delievers in all of her albums.

Thats her problem, she's not SO damn tastful when it comes to singles.

You got Until You Came which should've been the 3rd(or even the 2nd single). Its right up in that Gamble & Huff-Philly soul alley with the sitar playing(minus the corny speaking part) that song should've been released.
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Reply #20 posted 07/21/06 11:10am

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When rappers aren't trying to trick her out, she is amazing. I have mad love and respect for her even though I don't vibe with a lot of her shit. Her last album had some amazingly consistent and fantastic songs nod

I would love to see her drop the rap influence and go straight out deep soul nod
[Edited 7/21/06 11:11am]
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #21 posted 07/21/06 11:17am

CHIC0

i love her albums, and am impatiently awaiting her next. hmmm, i'm gonna give "Faithfully" a spin right now. nod
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Reply #22 posted 07/21/06 11:22am

mikek1

Gotta respect that women after what she went threw with Notorious B.I.G.

All the violence she took off him and yet people(dumb presenters) wanna praise hiom in front of her. E.G tyra banks show;

tyra is saying ' we all love biggie' and faith is looking unimpressed; thinking if you only knew'

STAY STRONG AND SPEAK UP FAITH; THE FIRST STEP WAS LETTING FRIENDS SPEAK TO VIBE MAGAZINE; she used to have black eyes all the time'
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Reply #23 posted 07/21/06 11:37am

Harlepolis

Here's a Faith Evans in a rare HONEST mood:

Time Out New York Interview

By Margeaux Watson


When Faith Evans released her seductive platinum debut, 1995's Faith,
the gospel-trained singer-songwriter-producer was blissfully in love
with the late Notorious B.I.G., whom she'd married after a two-week
courtship. But the good times didn't last long. Evans and B.I.G. became
estranged almost as fast as they'd become husband and wife. Evans was also
dragged into the infamous West Coast versus East Coast rap war after
Biggie's rival, Tupac Shakur, claimed he'd had sex with her. The
controversy took a toll on the artistry of her disappointing second CD, 1998's
Keep the Faith.

Following that album's release, Evans retreated from the limelight to
focus on raising her kids: Chynah, now 8; Christopher Jordan (C.J.), 5;
and Joshua, 3. She also remarried (to Todd Russaw, CEO of Pedigree
Multimedia Group) and relocated from her native New Jersey to Alpharetta,
Georgia, where she and her husband began collaborating on a new album.
The result is Faithfully, a sensual and sassy mix of hip-hop tinged R&B
grooves, ballads and party jams that chronicle Evans's professional and
personal rebirth.

After years of declining to discuss her personal life with the press,
Evans, 28, recently rang up TONY to candidly set the record straight
about her whirlwind romance with Biggie, plus the rumors about sleeping
with Tupac and fighting with Lil' Kim.

Time Out New York: Do you think your talent has been overshadowed by
your marriage to B.I.G.?

Faith Evans: Being associated as B.I.G.'s wife was good to an extent,
but it was all about B.I.G. Don't get me wrong I was happy for him, and
he was well-deserving of his success. I just felt like, How come I'm
not getting the fanfare? Is it because I'm B.I.G.'s wife? Does that mean
I have to take the backseat? [Laughs] It may have been a little bit of
jealousy, I guess.

TONY: How did you cope with that?

FE: I decided to branch out from under that wing while B.I.G. and all
them were on the Bad Boy Tour to go to L.A. and do some songwriting for
an R&B group. I wanted to get my own work and make my own money.

TONY: That's when you met Tupac, and the rumors started flying.

FE: Yeah. I could never say, "That's not my fault," 'cause nobody put a
gun to my head and made me go to the studio with Tupac. Based on the
one or two conversations I had with him, he seemed really cool.

TONY: But didn't that happen in the middle of the beef between Bad Boy
and Death Row Records?

FE: I wouldn't say it was in the middle; maybe one third of the way.
[Laughs] Honestly, when I met him, I didn't even know Tupac was on Death
Row.

TONY: Seriously?

FE: I would have never gone to the studio with him had I known. The
funny thing is it's not funny at all, actually that until I watched the
Behind the Music about B.I.G., I had never seen that footage of Tupac and
Suge [Knight] saying little things about me. Honestly, I think they
just dragged B.I.G. and me into it to make it more sensationalized.

TONY: B.I.G.'s video for "Get Money" depicted him kicking you out of
the house. How did that make you feel?

FE: By that time, the humiliation I wouldn't say I didn't feel it, but
I just had to weather it. All I could do was contend that what I said
was the truth.

TONY: Were you shocked when you were pregnant by B.I.G. and he rapped
that the baby was Tupac's?

FE: Yeah. I was really hurt when I heard ["Brooklyn's Finest"] on the
radio. I was like, "You know where you were that night. Why don't you
count back? Don't play!"

TONY: What did he say?

FE: I never got a straight answer out of him. When C.J. was born, I was
sitting there holding the baby and looking at B.I.G. like, "Damn. How
are you gonna explain to your son, who looks just like you, that you
made a record that's gonna be around forever saying I was having someone
else's baby? I know you feel stupid, right?"

TONY: Did you beat up Lil' Kim for having an affair with B.I.G.?

FE: We had a couple of run-ins. I did what I did because I was an angry
wife.

TONY: So, what did you do?

FE: Once, me and the kids were gonna spend Christmas with B.I.G. at his
house in Jersey. I was supposed to arrive at 10am, but something told
me to get there earlier. It was still dark and I came in there like a
sniper, child. Anyway, Kim was in his room, in his bed.

TONY: And what happened?!?

FE: I beat her ass. B.I.G. was standing there, like, "I didn't fuck
her!" I said, "Well, you should've, stupid! She's laying here butt-ass
naked like she wanted you to! She wouldn't be in your bed naked if you
never fucked her." You know, Kim would like to think she was the problem
in our marriage, but she knows that's not the case. I had run-ins with
20 to 50 other girls he was fucking, too. I done flew to other states,
went to hotels and fought girls I found with B.I.G. I'm not proud of it,
but it happened.

TONY: The first printing of Faith contains a cover of "Love Don't Live
Here Anymore," in which you and Mary J. Blige perform a duet. Why were
her vocals eventually removed?

FE: One day, I got a call saying Mary wanted her voice off my album. It
happened around the same time she fired Puff [Daddy] as her manager. I
guess she felt that everybody who was working for him was a spy.
[Laughs]

TONY: And you and Mary haven't been cool since?

FE: She came to my husband's funeral and didn't even speak to me, like
we are enemies. How could you walk by the front row at a funeral and
speak to everyone but the wife?!? After that, I was over it.

TONY: Why are you breaking your silence on all of these issues now?

FE: From here on out, I want things to be told the way I would feel
happy reading them. Even though I've addressed certain things in the past,
and I can't keep saying the same things over and over, I feel like,
Dammit, maybe I need to say it a little louder!
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Reply #24 posted 07/21/06 12:26pm

sosgemini

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wow...she comes off really ghetto in this article...sometimes its best to leave things to mystery.
Space for sale...
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Reply #25 posted 07/21/06 1:18pm

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FE: She came to my husband's funeral and didn't even speak to me, like
we are enemies. How could you walk by the front row at a funeral and
speak to everyone but the wife?!? After that, I was over it.

damn thats foul!
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #26 posted 07/21/06 1:56pm

woogiebear

Faith is the TRUTH AND A HALF!!!!! If i had my way I would want her to sing me to sleep NIGHTLY!!!!! Nothing sexual.....her voice is THAT DAMN GOOD!!!!!
Everyone pays attention & a half to Mary J., but they're sleepin' on Faith. They don't have no faith, but I "Keep The Faith"!!!!!
biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
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Reply #27 posted 07/21/06 2:00pm

woogiebear

Moonwalkbjrain said:

FE: She came to my husband's funeral and didn't even speak to me, like
we are enemies. How could you walk by the front row at a funeral and
speak to everyone but the wife?!? After that, I was over it.

damn thats foul!


Yeah....that IS some foul s**t!!!!! Those two should've/could've done a whole CD together and it woulda been THE BOMB!!!!! Just like Lil' Kim & Foxy. OH WELL!!!
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Reply #28 posted 07/21/06 2:32pm

ThreadBare

Harlepolis said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

Nice clip, Harle! Faith's got a good voice that often times reminds me of early Chaka. Her biggest problem musically is that she's not involved with people (i.e. Puffy) that really know how to utilize her talent and challenge her vocally. She could do so much more than she has.


She got that jazz thing going on too, thats why I can fuck with her. I knew about it all along, and then she said in one interview that she learned most of her vocal tricks from BETTY CARTER.

Come 2 think of it, she does echo Betty Carter in Love Can't Hide's bridge music

Now ain't that something? lol


That's funny. Whenever I hear her sing, I hear nothing but gospel's Clark sisters. hmm

She's a great singer, though. Hope she comes back strong.
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Reply #29 posted 07/21/06 4:48pm

CinisterCee

Didn't know her and Mary J weren't on good terms with each other. sad
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