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Janet, Justin and MTV

Prior to the infamous waldrobe malfunction MTV always supported Janet, now MTV
almost never say to much about her upcoming projects (Damita Jo) included, but on ther other hand they never stop supporting Justin.... He played a major part in that little disater... why do you think that is ?
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Reply #1 posted 07/17/06 8:50am

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Reply #2 posted 07/17/06 8:53am

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pickle pickle legs on fire hide your shame on the telephone wire!!
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Reply #3 posted 07/17/06 9:14am

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I think it's more of an age thing, than a race or gender thing. Janet's 40, thats like an old geezer to someone who's 18 watching MTV.
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Reply #4 posted 07/17/06 10:00am

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Tom said:

I think it's more of an age thing, than a race or gender thing. Janet's 40, thats like an old geezer to someone who's 18 watching MTV.

then y do the play the mess out of Madonna's new stuff...and not 2 mention u2 and older rock bands... confused
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Reply #5 posted 07/17/06 10:16am

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yes that is extremly unfair and hypercrticla of mtv, which is why I hate that network with a passion,. if Madonna would have dane it they would have gotten over it a long time ago. and I agree with pleasure principle it's not an age thing because madonna is near 50 and they promoted the mess out of her.
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Reply #6 posted 07/17/06 10:23am

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shortstuff45220 said:

yes that is extremly unfair and hypercrticla of mtv, which is why I hate that network with a passion,. if Madonna would have dane it they would have gotten over it a long time ago. and I agree with pleasure principle it's not an age thing because madonna is near 50 and they promoted the mess out of her.



MTV has had their fair share of problems with Madonna. The only difference is Madonna helped build MTV, whereas Janet came along after MTV was built. and Madonna's work wasn't ever subpar after her controversy
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Reply #7 posted 07/17/06 10:34am

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BUT THAT WOULDN'T EXPLAIN WHY...

MTV falls over itself to give head to Madonna.

Tom said:

I think it's more of an age thing, than a race or gender thing. Janet's 40, thats like an old geezer to someone who's 18 watching MTV.
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Reply #8 posted 07/17/06 10:37am

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TIMBERLACK CAME WELL AFTER MTV ALSO...

ehuffnsd said:

MTV has had their fair share of problems with Madonna. The only difference is Madonna helped build MTV, whereas Janet came along after MTV was built. and Madonna's work wasn't ever subpar after her controversy
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Reply #9 posted 07/17/06 10:45am

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papaa said:

BUT THAT WOULDN'T EXPLAIN WHY...

MTV falls over itself to give head to Madonna.

Tom said:

I think it's more of an age thing, than a race or gender thing. Janet's 40, thats like an old geezer to someone who's 18 watching MTV.




Oh please, after 'Hung Up', I haven't seen much of 'Sorry' or 'Get Together' on MTV. And during her American Life debacle, I didn't see anything other than 'Hollywood' once or twice.

MTV played the shit out of the All For You singles back in 2001/2002, gave Janet the first MTV Icon award, even put together the Super Bowl halftime show that spawned Nipplegate. Even the stupid video she did with Beenie Man was all over MTV when it came out.

The first two videos to come from Damita Jo were sub-par; 'Just a Little While' was obviously thrown together, and 'I Want You' wasn't much better. By the time 'All Nite (Don't Stop)' came out, the album was dead.

And I don't remember the last time MTV played a Justin Timberlake video anyway. His album was done by the time Nipplegate happened, and he hasn't really done anything since.

Honestly, Janet isn't your sister/mother/girlfriend. Some people on here get so defensive when the subject of Janet comes up.
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Reply #10 posted 07/17/06 10:51am

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Axchi696 said:

papaa said:

BUT THAT WOULDN'T EXPLAIN WHY...

MTV falls over itself to give head to Madonna.





Oh please, after 'Hung Up', I haven't seen much of 'Sorry' or 'Get Together' on MTV. And during her American Life debacle, I didn't see anything other than 'Hollywood' once or twice.

MTV played the shit out of the All For You singles back in 2001/2002, gave Janet the first MTV Icon award, even put together the Super Bowl halftime show that spawned Nipplegate. Even the stupid video she did with Beenie Man was all over MTV when it came out.

The first two videos to come from Damita Jo were sub-par; 'Just a Little While' was obviously thrown together, and 'I Want You' wasn't much better. By the time 'All Nite (Don't Stop)' came out, the album was dead.

And I don't remember the last time MTV played a Justin Timberlake video anyway. His album was done by the time Nipplegate happened, and he hasn't really done anything since.

Honestly, Janet isn't your sister/mother/girlfriend. Some people on here get so defensive when the subject of Janet comes up.



I asked the question because if you visit the site now, you'll see that MTV is promoting Justin new single and the making of the Video and the network has not really talked about Janet's upcoming project ( like it or not she does have a new single out) and i visit the site daily and have not seen any information regarding the single or much talk about her upcoming cd....
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Reply #11 posted 07/17/06 10:56am

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I asked the question because if you visit the site now, you'll see that MTV is promoting Justin new single and the making of the Video and the network has not really talked about Janet's upcoming project ( like it or not she does have a new single out) and i visit the site daily and have not seen any information regarding the single or much talk about her upcoming cd....



Honestly, I"m sure it just means that Jive records spent more money at MTV to promote the album. It's not like MTV does any of this out of love of music, or loyalty to the artist.

You can't tell me that Virgin didn't have something to do with Janet's ICON thingie. It's all business.
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Reply #12 posted 07/17/06 10:57am

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PUH-LEEZE, RIGHT BACK AT YA.

Timberlake and Madonna continue to enjoy generous amounts of airtime - Fact! I can't remember the last time I "flicked through" lol the music channels without seeing one of them prancing around the TV screen.

Honestly, Janet isn't your sister/mother/girlfriend. Some people on here get so defensive when the subject of Janet comes up.

I really couldn't care less about the aforementioned artists since I don't buy their records. What are you getting so touchy about? lol
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Reply #13 posted 07/17/06 11:12am

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Never heard such a fuss about nothing. It's very simple. Timberlake's last album was a smash hit. Janet's last album was a flop. Go up to the average MTV viewer and ask them who they're more interested in out of Janet and Justin and you'll soon see why MTV are concentrating more on Justin. There's no conspiracy here guys.
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Reply #14 posted 07/17/06 11:12am

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Axchi696 said:

banks said:



I asked the question because if you visit the site now, you'll see that MTV is promoting Justin new single and the making of the Video and the network has not really talked about Janet's upcoming project ( like it or not she does have a new single out) and i visit the site daily and have not seen any information regarding the single or much talk about her upcoming cd....



Honestly, I"m sure it just means that Jive records spent more money at MTV to promote the album. It's not like MTV does any of this out of love of music, or loyalty to the artist.

You can't tell me that Virgin didn't have something to do with Janet's ICON thingie. It's all business.



I would have bought this answer had i not been a constant visitor of the site, but i truly believe that something else is at work .... I remember checking the site the very next day after the incident and on it was a huge picture of Janet and the caption read "Janet gets Nasty" and later on that day after the fallout started it was removed... not saying that you have the time to do this or even care ... if you do a search on Janet and Justin in the archive news section you'll understand that something is not quite right over there
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Reply #15 posted 07/17/06 11:20am

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whoknows said:

Never heard such a fuss about nothing. It's very simple. Timberlake's last album was a smash hit. Janet's last album was a flop. Go up to the average MTV viewer and ask them who they're more interested in out of Janet and Justin and you'll soon see why MTV are concentrating more on Justin. There's no conspiracy here guys.





Pink's last cd was a flop.... hasn't stop them from promoting the hell out of lastest flop
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Reply #16 posted 07/17/06 11:22am

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banks said:

whoknows said:

Never heard such a fuss about nothing. It's very simple. Timberlake's last album was a smash hit. Janet's last album was a flop. Go up to the average MTV viewer and ask them who they're more interested in out of Janet and Justin and you'll soon see why MTV are concentrating more on Justin. There's no conspiracy here guys.





Pink's last cd was a flop.... hasn't stop them from promoting the hell out of lastest flop

She's younger. Much younger.
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whoknows said:

banks said:






Pink's last cd was a flop.... hasn't stop them from promoting the hell out of lastest flop

She's younger. Much younger.





ok.. so you think it has to do with age as oppose to some type of backlash for MTV not being able to produce anymore superbowl halftime shows ?
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Reply #18 posted 07/17/06 11:29am

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banks said:

whoknows said:


She's younger. Much younger.





ok.. so you think it has to do with age as oppose to some type of backlash for MTV not being able to produce anymore superbowl halftime shows ?

I think it's to do with the average MTV viewer not giving a fuck about Janet. As you pointed out earlier they could just as easily punish Timberlake for that, except that their viewers still want to see him.
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Reply #19 posted 07/17/06 11:32am

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whoknows said:

Never heard such a fuss about nothing. It's very simple. Timberlake's last album was a smash hit. Janet's last album was a flop. Go up to the average MTV viewer and ask them who they're more interested in out of Janet and Justin and you'll soon see why MTV are concentrating more on Justin. There's no conspiracy here guys.

whatever,Mariah was goin down fast and hard and had even made a fool of herself on MTV but soon as her new stuff came out it was
M(mariah)T.V rolleyes
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Reply #20 posted 07/17/06 11:39am

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Axchi696 said:

papaa said:

BUT THAT WOULDN'T EXPLAIN WHY...

MTV falls over itself to give head to Madonna.





Oh please, after 'Hung Up', I haven't seen much of 'Sorry' or 'Get Together' on MTV. And during her American Life debacle, I didn't see anything other than 'Hollywood' once or twice.

MTV played the shit out of the All For You singles back in 2001/2002, gave Janet the first MTV Icon award, even put together the Super Bowl halftime show that spawned Nipplegate. Even the stupid video she did with Beenie Man was all over MTV when it came out.

The first two videos to come from Damita Jo were sub-par; 'Just a Little While' was obviously thrown together, and 'I Want You' wasn't much better. By the time 'All Nite (Don't Stop)' came out, the album was dead.

And I don't remember the last time MTV played a Justin Timberlake video anyway. His album was done by the time Nipplegate happened, and he hasn't really done anything since.

Honestly, Janet isn't your sister/mother/girlfriend. Some people on here get so defensive when the subject of Janet comes up.



Very True...even though Icon was offered to M she turned it down. Plus janet's single including this one have been subpar since Someone To Call My Lover.

Justin is hyping his new single. I'm sure if Janet wanted to promote on MTV they'd do it... it takes two to tango. Do we even know if Janet's people have approached MTV?
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Reply #21 posted 07/17/06 11:45am

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PleasurePrinciple said:

whoknows said:

Never heard such a fuss about nothing. It's very simple. Timberlake's last album was a smash hit. Janet's last album was a flop. Go up to the average MTV viewer and ask them who they're more interested in out of Janet and Justin and you'll soon see why MTV are concentrating more on Justin. There's no conspiracy here guys.

whatever,Mariah was goin down fast and hard and had even made a fool of herself on MTV but soon as her new stuff came out it was
M(mariah)T.V rolleyes

And if Janet were to come out with a track that young kids think is cool then you'll see that with her soon enough. You guys are acting like the album has already been released and MTV has blacklisted every track. But it will be hard, because the fact is Janet is 40. Mariah was still only 35 when her album came out. There's a big difference between 35 and 40 in pop. What entitles to Janet to permanent status as a top seller anyway? She's had already had many more years on top than many of her far more talented peers had.
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Reply #22 posted 07/17/06 11:48am

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whoknows said:

PleasurePrinciple said:


whatever,Mariah was goin down fast and hard and had even made a fool of herself on MTV but soon as her new stuff came out it was
M(mariah)T.V rolleyes

And if Janet were to come out with a track that young kids think is cool then you'll see that with her soon enough. You guys are acting like the album has already been released and MTV has blacklisted every track. But it will be hard, because the fact is Janet is 40. Mariah was still only 35 when her album came out. There's a big difference between 35 and 40 in pop. What entitles Janet to permanent status as a top seller anyway? She's already had many more years on top than many of her far more talented peers had.

Also Janet's songs in recent years have not only been crap but they've sounded old fashioned and square. Whether or not we think Mariah's songs were any good, they did at least sound modern.
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whoknows said:

whoknows said:


And if Janet were to come out with a track that young kids think is cool then you'll see that with her soon enough. You guys are acting like the album has already been released and MTV has blacklisted every track. But it will be hard, because the fact is Janet is 40. Mariah was still only 35 when her album came out. There's a big difference between 35 and 40 in pop. What entitles Janet to permanent status as a top seller anyway? She's already had many more years on top than many of her far more talented peers had.

Also Janet's songs in recent years have not only been crap but they've sounded old fashioned and square. Whether or not we think Mariah's songs were any good, they did at least sound modern.

maybe not where u live but call on me is gettin requested by people around my age and from my "friends" who are on myspace who are my age are saying its doing good in NY and LA.and her new single does not sound dated at all~its produced by the hottest producer out rite now,JD...and its ft.Nelly.
and the whole 40 thing is crap cuz Madonna is pass 40...
.....the same thing that entitles all these ake artists out 2day...and u say that we care 2 much and all this other bull,y r u still posting in this thread then?
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Reply #24 posted 07/17/06 2:20pm

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PleasurePrinciple said:

whoknows said:


Also Janet's songs in recent years have not only been crap but they've sounded old fashioned and square. Whether or not we think Mariah's songs were any good, they did at least sound modern.

maybe not where u live but call on me is gettin requested by people around my age and from my "friends" who are on myspace who are my age are saying its doing good in NY and LA.and her new single does not sound dated at all~its produced by the hottest producer out rite now,JD...and its ft.Nelly.
and the whole 40 thing is crap cuz Madonna is pass 40...
.....the same thing that entitles all these ake artists out 2day...and u say that we care 2 much and all this other bull,y r u still posting in this thread then?


Madonna only hit number 7 with hung up on the pop charts. She hasn't had a number one single since Music which was the same year Janet had her last number one single.

Madonna has had 2 #1 Albums since Music her last number one album. I believe Damita Jo Janet's last album went #1 and sold more than American Life.

Janet has the ability to be a big hit in the States because she is RnB focused. She just has to be able to put out a somewhat dencent album. Plus Virgin has to be willing to promote it. Trust me Jive is working overtime to put out JT's album since they have lost their other flagship artist Britney.

It's about how much work the label puts out there anyway. If Virign wanted to promote Janet you better believe MTV would be playing her single... is the video out yet? the single been release yet?

we can't blame this all on MTV or whomever it depends on the aritst and the label. Maybe Janet isn't wanting to be on MTV or maybe Virgin is holding back for a more upbeat single.
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Reply #25 posted 07/17/06 2:37pm

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Janet left a message on her website that her video is permiring on access granted on July 26 and she'll be on 106 and the park July 31. no Mtv once so ever, so I guess they still do have a grudge eek
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Reply #26 posted 07/17/06 2:39pm

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ehuffnsd said:

PleasurePrinciple said:


maybe not where u live but call on me is gettin requested by people around my age and from my "friends" who are on myspace who are my age are saying its doing good in NY and LA.and her new single does not sound dated at all~its produced by the hottest producer out rite now,JD...and its ft.Nelly.
and the whole 40 thing is crap cuz Madonna is pass 40...
.....the same thing that entitles all these ake artists out 2day...and u say that we care 2 much and all this other bull,y r u still posting in this thread then?


Madonna only hit number 7 with hung up on the pop charts. She hasn't had a number one single since Music which was the same year Janet had her last number one single.

Madonna has had 2 #1 Albums since Music her last number one album. I believe Damita Jo Janet's last album went #1 and sold more than American Life.

Janet has the ability to be a big hit in the States because she is RnB focused. She just has to be able to put out a somewhat dencent album. Plus Virgin has to be willing to promote it. Trust me Jive is working overtime to put out JT's album since they have lost their other flagship artist Britney.

It's about how much work the label puts out there anyway. If Virign wanted to promote Janet you better believe MTV would be playing her single... is the video out yet? the single been release yet?

we can't blame this all on MTV or whomever it depends on the aritst and the label. Maybe Janet isn't wanting to be on MTV or maybe Virgin is holding back for a more upbeat single.



The video is gonna premiere the week of the 26th... so far MTV Europe filmed for the making of the video special to be aired overseas... have not read any info about MTV covering the making of the video in the states
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shortstuff45220 said:

Janet left a message on her website that her video is permiring on access granted on July 26 and she'll be on 106 and the park July 31. no Mtv once so ever, so I guess they still do have a grudge eek



Viacom owns CBS MTV VH1 and BET... so it doesn't matter one doesn't get it without the other.
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ehuffnsd said:

shortstuff45220 said:

Janet left a message on her website that her video is permiring on access granted on July 26 and she'll be on 106 and the park July 31. no Mtv once so ever, so I guess they still do have a grudge eek



Viacom owns CBS MTV VH1 and BET... so it doesn't matter one doesn't get it without the other.


not true Bet was very supportive during the Damita jo era and yet Mtv acted like she didn't even exsit.
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Reply #29 posted 07/17/06 2:50pm

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The reason:

Justin has a penis!!!!

It's a man's world!

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