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Reply #90 posted 07/16/06 10:25pm

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I don't know what moves you're talking about that she copies. As a dancer myself, there are certain moves that are popular during a certain time period that have to do with the style of the time. Many artists will use the same moves, but it's not one copying the other. Choreographers learn and teach the latest moves. If you see one artist in a video do a move first, it doesn't mean they made it up or that anyone else doing it after is copying them

The Dangerous tour, huh? Well, I remember the Victory tour and the Bad tour, so that should give you some insight to my age which isn't important to this conversation. Most Michael fans practically nurse on his breast anyway...


MJ was at his best with his brothers. I know peeps who have followed MJ from the days of the J5 to present; ask them for their fav MJ concert they will say "Trimph" concert. Personally, I believe MJ performances became boring and naff, when he started to grab his crotch every 5 seconds sad


That started happening after Bad. One thing that pissed me off was when he stopped touring the U.S. altogether. The last two concerts I saw of his were from Europe and it was boring as hell, bad sound, too much attention on the audience, too much screaming, no change in lighting or set design. He had the nerve to put on a red jacket and werewolf headgear for thriller and call it a costume change lol and let's not talk about his half ass, incoherent live singing. All he has to do is stand there and people will go berserk.



I used to love him in the 80's though shrug
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Reply #91 posted 07/17/06 5:46am

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BlackBuddy said:

whatsgoingon said:



MJ was at his best with his brothers. I know peeps who have followed MJ from the days of the J5 to present; ask them for their fav MJ concert they will say "Trimph" concert. Personally, I believe MJ performances became boring and naff, when he started to grab his crotch every 5 seconds sad


That started happening after Bad. One thing that pissed me off was when he stopped touring the U.S. altogether. The last two concerts I saw of his were from Europe and it was boring as hell, bad sound, too much attention on the audience, too much screaming, no change in lighting or set design. He had the nerve to put on a red jacket and werewolf headgear for thriller and call it a costume change lol and let's not talk about his half ass, incoherent live singing. All he has to do is stand there and people will go berserk.



I used to love him in the 80's though shrug


Have you ever seen the "Moving Violation" concert, with the J5.? No flashy lights, no costume changes, no hype and a much, smaller audience. It was just MJ with his brothers and a band, fabulous, live singing and so much energy, you will get exhausted just looking at the performances, ok, he was only 17.. lol But if I could go back in time, I would rather see that concert than any concert post Victory, and this includes the "Bad" concert which I actually went to see live..

It's only the fans that became fans in the last 15 yrs or so that don't mind all the crotch grabbing, hype and miming. I think for those who remember MJ back in the very early days prefer MJ when there was a little more substance.
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Reply #92 posted 07/17/06 10:24am

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Freespirit said:

Now, now, now... rose

lol

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i wasnt saying that to get smart... its just hard talking over the internet because people really tell what mood or emotion your tyring to get through... what i said wasnt in a smart way it was just a normal conversation that i would have with someone in person...

thumbs up!
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Reply #93 posted 07/17/06 3:21pm

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how can you like janet's concerts but not michael's... she copies some of his moves... and i think that his concerts are just so amazing... have you seen the dangerous tour concert... i watched that so many time... plus just his music alone is enough

also how old are you blackbuddy... at first i thought you were like 25 or something like that... but now im starting to think your like 15-16


I don't know what moves you're talking about that she copies. As a dancer myself, there are certain moves that are popular during a certain time period that have to do with the style of the time. Many artists will use the same moves, but it's not one copying the other. Choreographers learn and teach the latest moves. If you see one artist in a video do a move first, it doesn't mean they made it up or that anyone else doing it after is copying them

The Dangerous tour, huh? Well, I remember the Victory tour and the Bad tour, so that should give you some insight to my age which isn't important to this conversation. Most Michael fans practically nurse on his breast anyway...

janet copied micheal jackson's CAPTIAN EO moves... she used millitary style... she copied that idea from MIchael... also what about her "alright" video... she copied that idea from mike too... you can see it in her work... how her brothers influence her....
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Reply #94 posted 07/17/06 3:24pm

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TotalAlisa said:

BlackBuddy said:



I don't know what moves you're talking about that she copies. As a dancer myself, there are certain moves that are popular during a certain time period that have to do with the style of the time. Many artists will use the same moves, but it's not one copying the other. Choreographers learn and teach the latest moves. If you see one artist in a video do a move first, it doesn't mean they made it up or that anyone else doing it after is copying them

The Dangerous tour, huh? Well, I remember the Victory tour and the Bad tour, so that should give you some insight to my age which isn't important to this conversation. Most Michael fans practically nurse on his breast anyway...

janet copied micheal jackson's CAPTIAN EO moves... she used millitary style... she copied that idea from MIchael... also what about her "alright" video... she copied that idea from mike too... you can see it in her work... how her brothers influence her....


Y'all are really taking me back to 2nd grade now... "You copied!!" falloff

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Reply #95 posted 07/17/06 3:39pm

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TotalAlisa said:


janet copied micheal jackson's CAPTIAN EO moves... she used millitary style... she copied that idea from MIchael... also what about her "alright" video... she copied that idea from mike too... you can see it in her work... how her brothers influence her....


Y'all are really taking me back to 2nd grade now... "You copied!!" falloff

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"I'm telling...WAAAAA!!!" evillol
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Reply #96 posted 07/17/06 5:05pm

IAmMyFather

janet looks evil.
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Reply #97 posted 07/17/06 7:05pm

BlackBuddy

TotalAlisa said:

BlackBuddy said:



I don't know what moves you're talking about that she copies. As a dancer myself, there are certain moves that are popular during a certain time period that have to do with the style of the time. Many artists will use the same moves, but it's not one copying the other. Choreographers learn and teach the latest moves. If you see one artist in a video do a move first, it doesn't mean they made it up or that anyone else doing it after is copying them

The Dangerous tour, huh? Well, I remember the Victory tour and the Bad tour, so that should give you some insight to my age which isn't important to this conversation. Most Michael fans practically nurse on his breast anyway...

janet copied micheal jackson's CAPTIAN EO moves... she used millitary style... she copied that idea from MIchael... also what about her "alright" video... she copied that idea from mike too... you can see it in her work... how her brothers influence her....


You do realize you are talking about the period of 1986-1990 when their albums: Control/Bad/Rythm Nation were coinciding with each other, therefore things would be similiar in style. Trust me, Michael did not make up the Captain EO concept. He was approached by Disney for that. If you knew the whole concept and reason behind Rythm Nation, you would know it had nothing to do with Captain EO

The only thing similiar between Smooth Criminal and Alright is that they are wearing suits and hats. They were in different decades and the videos were completely different in style and contrast. Michael's had a more dark, gangster theme and Janet's was a happy, zoot suit theme. They're not even comparable

"Copy" is not appropriate for what you're saying
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Reply #98 posted 07/17/06 7:15pm

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she still has copied him
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Reply #99 posted 07/17/06 7:31pm

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she still has copied him

He didn't invent anything, so there's nothing to copy
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