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PrintableAnx said: PurpleCharm said: 
He ain't pushing no damn boundaries hooking up with Timbaland. okay? 
at this point, hooking up with hall & oates would be edgier. Exactly! I mean whats the big risk, and what boundary is being pushed by working with the producer that every "pop" artist is working with. Damn Britney pushed more boundaries when she worked with Moby on "In the Zone". "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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anon said: Bowie and Byrne covering Brown. That's not a bad way to go.
One foot in the funk/hip-hop(in his case) and the other in the club. To say they're the inspiration is ok, but he should be careful associating himself with the likes of them. Some of the quotes come off as cocky, he should watch that. Other than this, it's a good direction. Agreed. It's easy to slam him and most of the other pop-stars but Justin has gone beyond his boy band days, and he's right. Most people spend their lives trying to make Thriller 2 and Purple Rain 2. Few artists who are commercially successful are courageous enough to change their sound. Justin's young. He's still a developing artist. He has some respect for the source material. Let's let him do his thing...  
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Anx said: violator said: Whether or not he's actually 'pushing the sound of pop music' remains to be seen. But I think it's a great attitude to take. I'd certainly rather hear him say that than to assume the position of most folks of his ilk. Which is to do what is expected. What sells to the masses. What, ultimately, is predictable and boring.
he's just being a big old poser. "look at me, i'm pushing the envelope and doing something risky". when really, no he isn't. it's the same "radical reinvention" song and dance pop stars have been doing since janet jackson came out with "control". However it happened, if it clicked with him/them and became the direction/approach for the rest of the CD then I'm curious to hear it. Even if it's a minor shift in a new direction, it's still pushing the envelope...especially for todays standards(in those genres). I'm happy for that and for what may follow. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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Alasseon said: anon said: Bowie and Byrne covering Brown. That's not a bad way to go.
One foot in the funk/hip-hop(in his case) and the other in the club. To say they're the inspiration is ok, but he should be careful associating himself with the likes of them. Some of the quotes come off as cocky, he should watch that. Other than this, it's a good direction. Agreed. It's easy to slam him and most of the other pop-stars but Justin has gone beyond his boy band days, and he's right. Most people spend their lives trying to make Thriller 2 and Purple Rain 2. Few artists who are commercially successful are courageous enough to change their sound. Justin's young. He's still a developing artist. He has some respect for the source material. Let's let him do his thing... Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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lastdecember said: Anx said: okay?
at this point, hooking up with hall & oates would be edgier. Exactly! I mean whats the big risk, and what boundary is being pushed by working with the producer that every "pop" artist is working with. Damn Britney pushed more boundaries when she worked with Moby on "In the Zone". Bingo! | |
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Alasseon said: anon said: Bowie and Byrne covering Brown. That's not a bad way to go.
One foot in the funk/hip-hop(in his case) and the other in the club. To say they're the inspiration is ok, but he should be careful associating himself with the likes of them. Some of the quotes come off as cocky, he should watch that. Other than this, it's a good direction. Agreed. It's easy to slam him and most of the other pop-stars but Justin has gone beyond his boy band days, and he's right. Most people spend their lives trying to make Thriller 2 and Purple Rain 2. Few artists who are commercially successful are courageous enough to change their sound. Justin's young. He's still a developing artist. He has some respect for the source material. Let's let him do his thing... his handlers did a good job of telling him what artists to namecheck. | |
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Anx said: Alasseon said: Agreed. It's easy to slam him and most of the other pop-stars but Justin has gone beyond his boy band days, and he's right. Most people spend their lives trying to make Thriller 2 and Purple Rain 2. Few artists who are commercially successful are courageous enough to change their sound. Justin's young. He's still a developing artist. He has some respect for the source material. Let's let him do his thing... his handlers did a good job of telling him what artists to namecheck. oooh, you bad!!!
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Alasseon said: Anx said: his handlers did a good job of telling him what artists to namecheck. oooh, you bad!!!i'm sure JT is a huge bowie fan - i think i read somewhere that "cars" is one of his favorite 80s songs! | |
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HamsterHuey said: I saw the conference. He looked tired. It is always a bit hard to get a good story out of press-conference fodder. Most journalists there ask the most stupid questions.
Thanks for posting this, though. I think that pushing the boundaries is exactly what he does. He does not go with another Neptunes album, but experiments with something different than what his audience is used to. Not unlike Prince used to do, when his music was still up to par. ----- Nothing wrong with the music that P is putting out now and if you are comparing the Golden white boy to P you must be smoking some good stuff. | |
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noepie said: anon said: Bowie and Byrne covering Brown. That's not a bad way to go.
One foot in the funk/hip-hop(in his case) and the other in the club. Well, that's "Fame" isn't it?  lol | |
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Ah...remember the good ol days when artists just pushed the boundries of music without having to announce at a press conference that they were planning on pushing the boundries??? They didnt even try...they just DID....
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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said: Ah...remember the good ol days when artists just pushed the boundries of music without having to announce at a press conference that they were planning on pushing the boundries??? They didnt even try...they just DID....
peace I think it's different when it's a "safe" artist to start with. | |
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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said: Ah...remember the good ol days when artists just pushed the boundries of music without having to announce at a press conference that they were planning on pushing the boundries??? They didnt even try...they just DID....
peace 
SO TRUE!!! Nothing like letting your music TALK instead of you and your PR team doing it. Let the listener judge the boundaries you are pushing, stop telling me who u think u are. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said: Ah...remember the good ol days when artists just pushed the boundries of music without having to announce at a press conference that they were planning on pushing the boundries??? They didnt even try...they just DID....
peace the headlines scream: Timberlake Makes Vow To Be Interesting | |
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CinisterCee said: VoicesCarry said: You sipping the Justin sauce too?  I agree that he's a pop star that would be given license to push a new sound on the masses. You're right, it's just saying it & doing it are two different things. My Legacy
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noepie said: anon said: Bowie and Byrne covering Brown. That's not a bad way to go.
One foot in the funk/hip-hop(in his case) and the other in the club. Well, that's "Fame" isn't it? uh huh  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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I'm really not a great JT fan, but we complain all the time about the young folks not having an interest in "real music". So, here's one who at least seems to be interested (in the very least, he at least pretends to be interested), and who more or less points out that there's something missing in today's music scene - and we complain again?
I think I'll listen to some of his stuff first and make my judgement then. If it's shit, you can be sure I'm takin' the piss out of him!   | |
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EmancipationLover said: I'm really not a great JT fan, but we complain all the time about the young folks not having an interest in "real music". So, here's one who at least seems to be interested (in the very least, he at least pretends to be interested), and who more or less points out that there's something missing in today's music scene - and we complain again?
I think I'll listen to some of his stuff first and make my judgement then. If it's shit, you can be sure I'm takin' the piss out of him! PURRRR I am curious about what you think! Let me know when you do. Certainly he is a product of the moneymaking machines, but so was Prince once. His first album had some great tracks mixed with some R&B kinda balladeering I am not really fond of, but I am also VERY curious about the new album. The stuff he previewed live was a three-outa-four like for me, so... |
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HamsterHuey said: EmancipationLover said: I'm really not a great JT fan, but we complain all the time about the young folks not having an interest in "real music". So, here's one who at least seems to be interested (in the very least, he at least pretends to be interested), and who more or less points out that there's something missing in today's music scene - and we complain again?
I think I'll listen to some of his stuff first and make my judgement then. If it's shit, you can be sure I'm takin' the piss out of him! PURRRR I am curious about what you think! Let me know when you do. Certainly he is a product of the moneymaking machines, but so was Prince once. His first album had some great tracks mixed with some R&B kinda balladeering I am not really fond of, but I am also VERY curious about the new album. The stuff he previewed live was a three-outa-four like for me, so... I just listened to "Sexyback" online, and I'd call it "not too bad". Nothing that really moves me or makes me want to run to a record store, but it's good. Quite funky, but 1 or 2 more ideas could have made it better. I can't see the "pushing the sound" momentum though, unless you call the incorporation of electronic sounds into R'n'B in 2006 "pushing" (could be difficult on a Prince fansite). Well, let's wait and listen to the rest... | |
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Uhm, might it have been that he was refering to his OWN music, and pushing THOSE boundaries?
He ain't bigger than Jesus YET. The first time I heard the song I was going WTF? Then it had me playing it again and again, not unlike the first time I took Lovesexy out for a spin. Everybody loving Purple Rain/SOTT must have gone WTF too while listening to Lovesexy for the first time. |
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HamsterHuey said: Uhm, might it have been that he was refering to his OWN music, and pushing THOSE boundaries?
He ain't bigger than Jesus YET. The first time I heard the song I was going WTF? Then it had me playing it again and again, not unlike the first time I took Lovesexy out for a spin. Everybody loving Purple Rain/SOTT must have gone WTF too while listening to Lovesexy for the first time. Good point. | |
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HamsterHuey said: Uhm, might it have been that he was refering to his OWN music, and pushing THOSE boundaries?
He ain't bigger than Jesus YET. The first time I heard the song I was going WTF? Then it had me playing it again and again, not unlike the first time I took Lovesexy out for a spin. Everybody loving Purple Rain/SOTT must have gone WTF too while listening to Lovesexy for the first time. I don't think this new JT single indicates a turnaround or change in style I could compare to the transition from, let's say, PR to ATWIAD or from SOTT to Lovesexy... Btw, Justin is in a position now where he can afford to take risks. He's considered "hot", so his stuff will sell anyway. Just like for Prince and his situation after PR. | |
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CinisterCee said: VANITYSprisonBYTCH said: Ah...remember the good ol days when artists just pushed the boundries of music without having to announce at a press conference that they were planning on pushing the boundries??? They didnt even try...they just DID....
peace I think it's different when it's a "safe" artist to start with. That is such bullshit and you know it. When Patrice Rushen decided she wanted to make smooth R&B instead of jazz, she didn't call a fuckin' press conference
He's a pathetic tool. And this new track is absolutely terrible. | |
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VoicesCarry said: CinisterCee said: I think it's different when it's a "safe" artist to start with. That is such bullshit and you know it. When Patrice Rushen decided she wanted to make smooth R&B instead of jazz, she didn't call a fuckin' press conference
He's a pathetic tool. And this new track is absolutely terrible. She should have called one because people lost tracked of her after Forget me Nots | |
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EverlastingNow said: VoicesCarry said: That is such bullshit and you know it. When Patrice Rushen decided she wanted to make smooth R&B instead of jazz, she didn't call a fuckin' press conference
He's a pathetic tool. And this new track is absolutely terrible. She should have called one because people lost tracked of her after Forget me Nots Forget Me Nots wasn't even a big hit. The mainstream was never on track with Patrice. Thankfully the org is. | |
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every time i start to like the man he comes with some arrogant/cocky bullshit that's just lame. he's from a fucking BOY BAND. with one successful solo LP. he's jordan knight with a bigger solo record under his belt. if he doesn't push the boundaries who will? are you fucking kidding me? hmmm...maybe Madonna, Janet Jackson, Gnarls Barkley, Christina Aguilera, Kylie, Beck, MJ, Prince, Nelly Furtado to name a few...idiot. I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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but a few of his songs over the years were hot. [Edited 7/10/06 18:21pm] I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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if they let me beat the sh*t out of justin's punk ass....i'd listen to his music.
I can't stand a bitchy ass man.....ugh. | |
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noepie said: anon said: Bowie and Byrne covering Brown. That's not a bad way to go.
One foot in the funk/hip-hop(in his case) and the other in the club. Well, that's "Fame" isn't it? And that new song isn't "Fame".... | |
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