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Printableanon said: purplecam said: I agree with anon that Hip Hop is in desperate need of change but I don't see SexyBack as being the song to change things. If that's the case then why hasn't there been a movement to make songs like Promiscuous? That was made by Timbaland too. Thing is, no song will change things. Things have already changed. Hip hop has to catch up...find a current voice.
This simple song is doing interesting things. It can be a catalyst for hip hop to take a look outside of itself. Promiscuous is a good call. It's never one thing to make change...most of the time it's unspoken and collective. It's usually one thing that gets credit, though. The one that defines the move/change. The JT track is a good contender. I see where you are coming from. We'll have to wait and see what happens with this song. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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anon said: purplecam said: I agree with anon that Hip Hop is in desperate need of change but I don't see SexyBack as being the song to change things. If that's the case then why hasn't there been a movement to make songs like Promiscuous? That was made by Timbaland too. Thing is, no song will change things. Things have already changed. Hip hop has to catch up...find a current voice.
This simple song is doing interesting things. It can be a catalyst for hip hop to take a look outside of itself. Promiscuous is a good call. It's never one thing to make change...most of the time it's unspoken and collective. It's usually one thing that gets credit, though. The one that defines the move/change. The JT track is a good contender. You REALLY think Promiscious and SexyBack are going to lead some sort of REVOLUTIONARY SOUND in HIP-HOP?   | |
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VoicesCarry said: anon said: Thing is, no song will change things. Things have already changed. Hip hop has to catch up...find a current voice.
This simple song is doing interesting things. It can be a catalyst for hip hop to take a look outside of itself. Promiscuous is a good call. It's never one thing to make change...most of the time it's unspoken and collective. It's usually one thing that gets credit, though. The one that defines the move/change. The JT track is a good contender. You REALLY think Promiscious and SexyBack are going to lead some sort of REVOLUTIONARY SOUND in HIP-HOP? Hip hop needs a new outlook. This song has it. It needs a new look. This all started with speculation about "the look" the video will have. You could argue that once you change the attitude, that it's no longer hip-hop. But that's how it goes with change. Things branch off and become new things. Other things stagnate and become obsolete. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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anon said: VoicesCarry said: You REALLY think Promiscious and SexyBack are going to lead some sort of REVOLUTIONARY SOUND in HIP-HOP? Hip hop needs a new outlook. This song has it. It needs a new look. This all started with speculation about "the look" the video will have. You could argue that once you change the attitude, that it's no longer hip-hop. But that's how it goes with change. Things branch off and become new things. Other things stagnate and become obsolete. Son...drop that bottle  | |
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VoicesCarry said: CinisterCee said: the Jacksons would say it with a capital H... wHack  
I'm glad someone respects their elders enough to know this. 
I'm bringing Ashleeback. | |
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anon said: VoicesCarry said: You REALLY think Promiscious and SexyBack are going to lead some sort of REVOLUTIONARY SOUND in HIP-HOP? Hip hop needs a new outlook. This song has it. Er.....WHAT new outlook  I'm serious here. It's like any lame dance track with poorly-processed vocals and lazy production you've ever heard. Timbaland is just lazy these days. Apparently Aaliyah brought out the best in him. | |
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VoicesCarry said: anon said: It has nothing to do with sound. There's nothing new musically. It's the content. The outlook. The attitude.
Hip hop needs a new outlook. This song has it. Er.....WHAT new outlook I'm serious here. It's like any lame dance track with poorly-processed vocals and lazy production you've ever heard. Timbaland is just lazy these days. Apparently Aaliyah brought out the best in him.Look at the sexuality of the song alone. That's a lot. Especially in a rigid male dominated genre. That's an entirely new outlook. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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anon said: VoicesCarry said: Er.....WHAT new outlook I'm serious here. It's like any lame dance track with poorly-processed vocals and lazy production you've ever heard. Timbaland is just lazy these days. Apparently Aaliyah brought out the best in him.Look at the sexuality of the song alone. That's a lot. Especially in a rigid male dominated genre. That's an entirely new outlook. You DO realize that this is actually a dance track designed for the club charts and not a hip-hop audience. And there isn't anything original about a gay spin on dance music (how Promiscuous figures into this new gay outlook - if that is your idea - is beyond me, but okay). [Edited 7/8/06 18:16pm] | |
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VoicesCarry said: anon said: Again. Not talking music.
Look at the sexuality of the song alone. That's a lot. Especially in a rigid male dominated genre. That's an entirely new outlook. You DO realize that this is actually a dance track designed for the club charts and not a hip-hop audience. And there isn't anything original about a gay spin on dance music (how Promiscuous figures into this new gay outlook - if that is your idea - is beyond me, but okay). [Edited 7/8/06 18:16pm] Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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anon said: VoicesCarry said: You DO realize that this is actually a dance track designed for the club charts and not a hip-hop audience. And there isn't anything original about a gay spin on dance music (how Promiscuous figures into this new gay outlook - if that is your idea - is beyond me, but okay). [Edited 7/8/06 18:16pm] Justin lost his hip-hop pass after his post-SuperBowl behavior. Not that he was ever really hip-hop, anyway. He just wanted to be Michael Jackson. | |
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anon said: VoicesCarry said: You DO realize that this is actually a dance track designed for the club charts and not a hip-hop audience. And there isn't anything original about a gay spin on dance music (how Promiscuous figures into this new gay outlook - if that is your idea - is beyond me, but okay). [Edited 7/8/06 18:16pm] Whats so good about being in the toilet? | |
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VoicesCarry said: And there isn't anything original about a gay spin on dance music (how Promiscuous figures into this new gay outlook - if that is your idea - is beyond me, but okay).
What does gay have to do with anything? No one mentioned that. And we're not talking about Promiscuous...but SexyBack.
[Edited 7/8/06 18:16pm] But as PurpleCam says...let's just wait and see. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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anon said: VoicesCarry said: And there isn't anything original about a gay spin on dance music (how Promiscuous figures into this new gay outlook - if that is your idea - is beyond me, but okay).
What does gay have to do with anything? No one mentioned that. And we're not talking about Promiscuous...but SexyBack.
[Edited 7/8/06 18:16pm] But as PurpleCam says...let's just wait and see. Um, you did, when you said: "Look at the sexuality of the song alone. That's a lot. Especially in a rigid male dominated genre. That's an entirely new outlook." Do you keep track of your own posts or what? | |
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VoicesCarry said: anon said: Yes. Well, I know it's a dance track but he still has the attention of the hip-hop community. That's why I say, he's in a good place.
Justin lost his hip-hop pass after his post-SuperBowl behavior. Not that he was ever really hip-hop, anyway. He just wanted to be Michael Jackson. Anyway, if it's not him, it will be someone else. But at this time there aren't many out there doing much of anything remotely out of the expected norm. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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VoicesCarry said: anon said: What does gay have to do with anything? No one mentioned that. And we're not talking about Promiscuous...but SexyBack.
But as PurpleCam says...let's just wait and see. Um, you did, when you said: "Look at the sexuality of the song alone. That's a lot. Especially in a rigid male dominated genre. That's an entirely new outlook." Do you keep track of your own posts or what? The JT track is way outside of the hip-hop norm and it will probably appeal to a gay audience but it isn't gay. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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anon said: VoicesCarry said: Um, you did, when you said: "Look at the sexuality of the song alone. That's a lot. Especially in a rigid male dominated genre. That's an entirely new outlook." Do you keep track of your own posts or what? The JT track is way outside of the hip-hop norm and it will probably appeal to a gay audience but it isn't gay. Oh, come ON, dude. How the fuck else am I supposed to interpret your comment? Look at the sexuality of the song alone. That's a lot. Especially in a rigid male dominated genre. That's an entirely new outlook..  Give us a break - it's clear what you meant.
And yeah, the track is hella gay. I mean it sounds like "Soccer Practice" by Gay Pimp. "Them other boys don't know how to act." LMAO. This track is camp to the max. [Edited 7/8/06 18:37pm] | |
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VoicesCarry said: anon said: Still. What does that have to do with "gay"?
The JT track is way outside of the hip-hop norm and it will probably appeal to a gay audience but it isn't gay. Oh, come ON, dude. How the fuck else am I supposed to interpret your comment? Look at the sexuality of the song alone. That's a lot. Especially in a rigid male dominated genre. That's an entirely new outlook.. Give us a break - it's clear what you meant.
And yeah, the track is hella gay. I mean it sounds like "Soccer Practice" by Gay Pimp. "Them other boys don't know how to act." LMAO. [Edited 7/8/06 18:37pm] It's not a gay song. Not unless that's what you want to hear. It's funny that when a song challenges the traditional role of men and women guys that fear that change/loss of power, label it gay. This is exactly what I meant by "rigid male dominated genre". Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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anon said: VoicesCarry said: Oh, come ON, dude. How the fuck else am I supposed to interpret your comment? Look at the sexuality of the song alone. That's a lot. Especially in a rigid male dominated genre. That's an entirely new outlook.. Give us a break - it's clear what you meant.
And yeah, the track is hella gay. I mean it sounds like "Soccer Practice" by Gay Pimp. "Them other boys don't know how to act." LMAO. [Edited 7/8/06 18:37pm] It's not a gay song. Not unless that's what you want to hear. It's funny that when a song challenges the traditional role of men and women guys that fear that change/loss of power, label it gay. This is exactly what I meant by "rigid male dominated genre". WTF? This is NOT a gay song....did you even listen to it? Your comment makes NO sense in the context of straightness....and neither does the damn song. Is it because Justin lets HER hold the whip? Penthouse already did that....decades ago. I'm sorry, but this is like listening to Vogue and not realizing what she's talking about  [Edited 7/8/06 18:51pm] | |
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Interesting that most (if not all) those defending the song also wanna fuck him. I'm just sayin'.  He ain't sexy in the back or front - looks like somebody hit him with a shovel on either side. Got a face like a pug. Go 'head and hit that mess.
Anyway, I'm not hearing Prince in it at all. Not an ounce. What I'm hearing is Freedom Williams and C+C Music Factory, from the delivery of the verse to the 1990 beat. It ain't but one step away from Gonna Make You Sweat. All that's missing is Martha Wash. Getyasexyon....get ya sexy ooooon...getyasexyon! | |
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VoicesCarry said: anon said: Uh. No. Didn't mean that at all. Listen to the lyric. What's so hard to get?
It's not a gay song. Not unless that's what you want to hear. It's funny that when a song challenges the traditional role of men and women guys that fear that change/loss of power, label it gay. This is exactly what I meant by "rigid male dominated genre". WTF? This is NOT a gay song....did you even listen to it? Your comment makes NO sense in the context of straightness....and neither does the damn song. Is it because Justin lets HER hold the whip? Penthouse already did that....decades ago. I'm sorry, but this is like listening to Vogue and not realizing what she's talking about
[Edited 7/8/06 18:51pm] Funny this same thing happened with Control - Puddle of Mudd. Some guys have a hard time with songs like that. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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anon said: VoicesCarry said: WTF? This is NOT a gay song....did you even listen to it? Your comment makes NO sense in the context of straightness....and neither does the damn song. Is it because Justin lets HER hold the whip? Penthouse already did that....decades ago. I'm sorry, but this is like listening to Vogue and not realizing what she's talking about
[Edited 7/8/06 18:51pm] Funny this same thing happened with Control - Puddle of Mudd. Some guys have a hard time with songs like that. If you're intimating that I'm somehow threatened by this song - LMAO! You go to any gay club in a few months and "I'm bringing sexy back" will be the new chant, okay? Trust me. Sassy is right in that respect. As for the song being straight,  And as for this song somehow redefining male-female sexual politics, x 100000 | |
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HamsterHuey said: http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847
http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 You fucker! Stop the madness! | |
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VoicesCarry said: anon said: It's interesting that you see it that way. As a "straight song" it makes perfect sense to me.
Funny this same thing happened with Control - Puddle of Mudd. Some guys have a hard time with songs like that. If you're intimating that I'm somehow threatened by this song - LMAO! You go to any gay club in a few months and "I'm bringing sexy back" will be the new chant, okay? Trust me. Sassy is right in that respect. As for the song being straight, And as for this song somehow redefining male-female sexual politics, x 100000 | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: HamsterHuey said: http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847
http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 http://www.prince.org/msg/8/194847 You fucker! Stop the madness!I can't. He won me over. |
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HamsterHuey said: RipHer2Shreds said: You fucker! Stop the madness!I can't. He won me over.  Glad you had a good time. I'm guessing his music might be better live, cuz the one time I sorta cocked my head and thought, "Hey, that wasn't half bad," was his performance on the Grammys a few years back. I still ain't buying his album. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Interesting that most (if not all) those defending the song also wanna fuck him. I'm just sayin'.
He ain't sexy in the back or front - looks like somebody hit him with a shovel on either side. Got a face like a pug. Go 'head and hit that mess.
Anyway, I'm not hearing Prince in it at all. Not an ounce. What I'm hearing is Freedom Williams and C+C Music Factory, from the delivery of the verse to the 1990 beat. It ain't but one step away from Gonna Make You Sweat. All that's missing is Martha Wash. Getyasexyon....get ya sexy ooooon...getyasexyon! Definitely don't wanna fuck JT, but I don't think the song is half as awful as everyone here is saying. This song will probably be huge in gay clubs, but I don't go to gay clubs, and I can hear this being HUGE in the straight clubs also. It's going to be big everywhere. I'm going out tonight, and I'm sure I'll hear this at least once. Whoever said that this is better than the limp Janet offering wasn't wrong. The song at least has a pulse, and you can clearly discern what Justin is saying in the song. Also think the song is better than at least half of the overcooked stuff that he put out on his last CD. It's not 'Record of the Year' by any stretch of the imagination, but it's also not in the same category as 'London Bridge', 'Call on Me', 'Deja Vu', or whatever other shit will soon be clogging up the charts. I'm the first mammal to wear pants. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: HamsterHuey said: I can't. He won me over. Glad you had a good time. I'm guessing his music might be better live, cuz the one time I sorta cocked my head and thought, "Hey, that wasn't half bad," was his performance on the Grammys a few years back. I still ain't buying his album. That's okay. There are just a few peeps who come close to the intensity of a Prince performance and this was one of them. A person with as much as personality as he has, even though less in your face, and the song material to awe ya. Hurray For JT! |
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Anyways, maybe NOT the right comparison on this forum, but this song puzzled me a bit upon hearing it the first few times.
I had that same WTF feeling when listening to Lovesexy (the album) for the first time, you got to spin it a few times and have it work it's wonders on you before you truly can appreciate what is offered. SexyBack is fun, different and it sure makes me move my bonbon. So there. |
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I'll play along. the vocals could be by anyone. You could say it was a solo track from any Backstreet boy or new artist. But it s a hot dance number. I want to hear the rest.
What other choices are there? Chris Brown, Mario, Michael Jackson relief single? ---------------------------------
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