I was walking home from getting a coffee and some guy was blaring this idiot rap song in his car. The main lyric went like this: "We Be In The Club." I blurted out, "you should be gettin your ass into a library." I laughed my ass off, spilled coffee on my self, then realized that the same rapper on the song is probably making more money then me. I then kneeled and cried like a wee baby. waaaaah.

i start to feel, that people who don't like rap have a racist reason behind it, and this thread is making me see my point

Whoop that trick.

people, it is what is....if u dont like it, lidten to something else, LOL>

ok, let me re-post:

I meant to say - it is what it is, if u dont like it, listen 2 something else....

goat2004 said:

Indeed. And what does tone deaf have to do with choice of words? I urge you to look at the grammar in your own subject line again before you send somebody off to the liberry.

Here u go guys,

scroll down to hear audio.

http://www.contactmusic.c...nx05x06x06

Now, he's talking about something....

krazykid18 said:

I'm black, and I hate rap... I feel that in it's present form, It contributes to the continued stagnation of our people

sdekm1 said:

Not all rap is bad, but most of it does reflect your viewpoint. I'm African-American too and I just feel that it's a combination of the music industry making money and the absence of very few who are truly talented. There are great rappers just as there are great people in other areas . It's the content of the music and the way that it is presented to the public.

nurse said:

Yeah, it's a shame.... I have heard thing from Common and Mos Def that had meaningful lyrics, but they never seem to get properly reflected....

sdekm1 said:

Very true and that is usually the case that the meaningful rappers never get as much air time as the one's who perpetuate many of the terrible stereotypes that are associated with people of color. Very sad.

sdekm1 said:

some white people hate it, because it gives blacks to make money and move up in life in positive lifestyles.

And i wish some people on the org, would understand why hip hop was created before they say there stupid well there is no instrument players, in rap music, and the same ole everybody can do it, bullshit
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I think this thread needs to be locked and the discussion needs to be carried on here: http://www.prince.org/msg/8/193013
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krazykid18 said:

I have never heard of the current rap culture and positive lifestyles being associated with each other.

Um, FYI, y'all: The thread title isn't something 2freaky made up. It's paraphrasing from "Dead On It."

Just saying.

pack the house
and try to sing
there won't be no one left...

sdekm1 said:

No..We contribute to the continued stagnation of our people. The music that you listen to does not. In this world you have choices and it is up to YOU, not the music, to make the right choice. If a 4 minute rap song can change what I have taught my 4 year daughter in her 4 years on this earth, then I am the one to blame, not the music.....
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krazykid18 said:

nope not racist cause im black like most rappers,dude some people actually like music,verse,chorus,bridge. most rap songs have no instruments or changes just dum dum dum, dum dum dum. all the way through the whole song.talking about nothing but bling and butt.with so much going on in this sad world. black on black crime,terroist.gas prices.dude cant they rap about something worth while i mean really.

What's wrong with going to the club and having a good time?

shorttrini said:

homeboy u bet yo a-- that it can influence the heck out of the choices your daughter or son makes after they hear negative rap over and over and over and over again.this is a record companies ploy to drive these negative images in our youths mind so they cant see the forrest 4 the trees, wake up son its a game going on, u better get hip and watch what radio and mtv is feeding your kids because some of it cant be digested.

krazykid18 said:

Believe it or not, there are a lot of black people who hate rap too.

Do they hate it for "racist" reasons or do they hate it because they think rap promotes a negative image for all blacks?

Do people who hate rap, hate all rap or just certain kinds of rap? Certainly, the Sugar Hill Gang, Ice-T, NWA, Will Smith, and Eminem are all different styles of rap music.

Just asking the questions... It might be more of a generational thing than a color thing.

That being said, anyone catch the old white tourists standing in the aisles, clapping to the beat, when Busta Rhymes rocked the Conan O'Brien show?

joelmarable said:

Behold a Pale Horse - THe Boogie Monsters


[b]Behold a pale horse, death is in our midst
We gotta keep on point cause we movin off course
I'm checkin for you and yours
It's hittin worldwide
We gotta maximize by eliminatin lies


Old Tommy Boy had this plan to rule the planet
First he needed some land to expand
Off the shores of Spain to maintain he set off to the western hemisphere
His first qualm was this Indian man
See, Tommy and his people knew the flav
And to really make it happen they went and got a million slaves
Stripped them off their materials and their minds
Since back home was hard to find
Gave em mortal names and fed em swine
Maximize the enterprise, and make education impossible
Pimp the men as slaves and make they shorties Jezebels
Make sure there's no more railroads underground so they can't use it
[b]Oh yeah and don't forget - infiltrate they rap music
This plan'll hit em harder then they think, cause they don't care
Our symbols is on the back of they dollars, the end is here
And spiritually they unprepared, so we gon' break em down to slaughter
In the new (the new) the what (the what) the world, the order

[/b][/b]
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then Prince said...

"When we be makin' love "

"We be funkin' over here"

"4 the fast cash, we be thinkin' 2 slow"

krazykid18 said:

I'm Black and with a hand full of EXCEPTIONS, I really DISLIKE Rap with a passion. I can give you a million reasons why.

Look,

-All hip hop is not bad

-if you don't like it, don't listen to it...its that simple.

-but don't try to make whole threads about how ignorant rap is because not all black folks, not all white folks, not all asian folks, not all latino folks, not all indian folks, not all african folks, and not all austrailian folks dislike hip hop

so the next time you are either outside or driving with the windows down and you hear some ignorant hip hop that you just can't stand, u can do either one of the two things:

1) turn up the volume in your car

or

2) ignore it


now back to our regularly scheduled programming.....

Yeah, right! With a music collection in a book shelf from floor to ceiling that is 90% black and enough black sexual partners to start of episode of "Soul Train", hating rap makes me real racist. It ain't racism, it's called having good taste, being used to much better, and never lowering your standards regardless if the rest of the world has.

It's not that simple. It's everywhere and it's keeping everything else out. When there is no good new music to entertain people, we have to bitch to entertain ourselves. Why? For the sheer hell of it.

vainandy said:

and you think missfee is oversimplifying things?
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