Anx said:

For some reason I thought you loved everything Hounds and onward, but thought everything before was too shrill or something. At least I thought that was you. The Dreaming is almost impenetrable at first. But most fans swear by it, so I haven't totally given up on it just yet.

GangstaFam said:

a lot of it is really shrill to me. i like "the kick inside", though. to me, it kinda sounds like kate's equivalent of "for you". when she gets way too far into doing stuff that sounds like sea chanties, she loses me. this is why i don't like fiona apple.

Anx said:

Explain the sea chanties of it all.

Anx said:

That's her best stuff.

If you listen to Hit from the Sugarcubes, that's hip-hop right there!

This old review from AMG keeps me intrested in The Dreaming. I love the bold part. Very intrigued...

GangstaFam said:

you know, where she's all "YO HO, ay yay yay, HOO HOO HOO"

Anx said:

Anx said:

Bjork from last weekend dj'ing, she trew in some of her new beats on suspecting trannies.

twink69 said:

She's really into the psychedelic psycho french clown thing lately, huh?

Anx said:

Wha wHa WHaT?!?!

Pleeesse tell me you made that up. I would die. DIE!

eleven said:

Where is that?

GangstaFam said:

Holy shit. I didn't think it was possible to lover her any more than I already did, but this just, well, ...damn.
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Anx said:

It's beyond me why any Bjork fan can't appreciate that album. It's almost like a blue-print for everything that Bjork's ever done.

GangstaFam said:

That's it in a nutshell.

Cloudbuster said:

then i think they put the wrong CD in my jewel case!

Cloudbuster said:

The only blueprint for everything Bjork has ever done is the big fleshy mass between her ears. Okaaay??

Well, I can hear it. And wasn't surprised when Bjork herself acknowledged the album was a huge influence on her. It's all there.

eleven said:

with the classical training, the influence of her environment while growing up, the education she got hanging around icelandic punks and beatniks in her early days, and all that came after, i have a hard time believing bjork just grabbed a copy of "the dreaming" and said "ooh, nice - i'm just gonna nick off this for the rest of my career."

GangstaFam said:

San Francisco.

eleven said:

my heart sunk a little when i read this morsel.

bjork? tranny dance party? yes, please!

Anx said:

Precisely. I'm just getting used to everyone thinking Tori's a Kate ripoff. I can't handle Bjork too!

eleven said:

Oh. Okay. I don't feel so bad now. I thought for a minute that it was in Chicago.

GangstaFam said:

i'd still be having a nervous breakdown if that were the case.

Anx said:

Is not what I said.
Fuckinghell.

I was refering to the album's creative, uncompromising and risk taking elements by a female artist within the confines of pop music.
Bjork has acknowleged it was a huge influence on her approach.

Whatever. I'll leave you all to your little "blow-off" session.

GangstaFam said:

i won't deny an influence, but it's like saying the VU was the blueprint for bowie's whole sound.

Anx said:

Right? That is my version of Heaven.

Cloudbuster said:

want a kleenex?

fine. so 'the dreaming' inspired the PROCESS by which bjork records everything she does. that's great, but i don't hear it. so it's entirely possible for me not to appreciate the sound of one while enjoying the other.

eno uses oblique strategies to create his music. i may think the process is kooky, but the end result is what it is. if someone told me kelly clarkson used oblique strategies on her last album, i probably wouldn't like it any better than i already do.

Cloudbuster said:

hell yes. naked, in a fiberglass box, suspended over the Thames

Anx said:

I'm not saying you have to like it.
I'm just saying that I'm surprised that you don't.

Replace Kate's vocals with Bjork's and it could almost be a Bjork album.