http://www.youtube.com/wa...pp%20roger

http://www.youtube.com/wa...ght%20star

EDIT: Talkbox & vocoder are 2 totally different instruments.
[Edited 6/23/06 16:45pm]

Roger was the best on talkbox. Anybody can rock a vocoder. They're two different fx/instruments.

Roger Troutman. Although Midnight Star came out with some very good music. When it comes to the vocoder, No one made it work better then Roger. Man, I miss him. R.I.P.

Adisa said:

You're right. 2 different instruments to help us all sing like robots. I love them both!

Hard choice because both groups are funky as hell. Roger and Zapp's music is a little more funky but I still love the "outer space" sound of Midnight Star. Very hard choice.....Roger and Zapp....no, Midnight Star....hell, I don't know. I guess Roger and Zapp.

TonyVanDam said:

So who's your favorite robot and what's their best album?

Adisa said:

Right here:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...pp%20roger

The Jonzun Crew was pretty good.

What did Newcleus use? Was that an instrument of just a voice speeded up?

vainandy said:

Back in the days before digital audio, Newcleus, Prince and Jesse Johnson used to slow down the recording and sing the parts at a slower tempo in their regular pitch, then speed the recording back up to normal speed to get that effect. Then pitch shifters came out and people would use them but they would get a "metallic" sound to their voice. Evantide made a processor for the voice that eliminated the metallic sound and made pitch shifting more natural and artists like Janet and Britney have never had to sing another harmony again if they so chose not to.
Did I tell too much?

BlaqueKnight said:

Music Technology is a lot to handle.

Thanks. I had a feeling the voice was speeded up but I couldn't understand how they kept it in tempo with the music. Very creative people.

vainandy said:

Let not forget about Kraftwerk (the original kings of robot vocals)

Roger made a CAREER out of the "talkbox". Vincent Calloway of Midnight Star used it sporadically compared to Roger. And, yes Peter Frampton as well as Johnny "Guitar" watson used it. BUT, there's ONE defining moment in talkbox history. There's a video from 72 of a NY TV show called SOUL. Stevie Wonder was the guest. And, during the end of his set, he took a "talkbox solo". As much as I LOVE Roger, my friend said it best: THAT MOMENT MADE ROGER'S WHOLE CAREER.....HE JUST DIDN'T KNOW IT YET!!!!!
Roger Troutman F.I.P. (Funk In Peace)!!!!!

But, to answer your question: Although I love BOTH groups, Roger!!!!!

Hell yeah! Some others are:

Soul Sonic Force
Twilight 22
Garrett's Crew
P Crew
Egyptian Lover
Pretty Tony and Freestyle
Project Future

TonyVanDam said:

Back in da day,
dem wuz sum hard-core muthafuckas!

woogiebear said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...X5v-S_jGD4

I'll love Roger best til the day I leave this earth, because he can make me dance if I want him to!!
[Edited 6/23/06 17:25pm]

Since yall are right, and a talkbox and a vocoder are two different things, I'll just give one million props and a big REST IN PEACE to my man Roger. If they were the same thing it'd still be Roger, all damn day.

Peter Frampton.

Roger/Zapp-enough said .