I guess I need a definition on who exactly "women in hip hop" represents - female rappers? Video chicks? Women who buy the music? Women in general? I wish I had more context - I guess he's saying women can be all of these things... Seems like he wanted a blurb in the papers w/ the whole prepare yourselves/drop the bomb tactics... & he got it...

At least he didn't jump on the Oprah thing

Joe also weighed in on the current "Oprah bites" bandwagon, offering, "Just because she's black doesn't mean she has to like hip-hop. She's keeping it real."

CalhounSq said:

Think Joe Crack is talking about Video hoes and female rappers. We know how the video chicks act, but also the female rappers. Shawnn, La Chat, old school Foxxy Brown and Kim, what did they rap about "Gettin' some/Give you some ..."?

But Joe and the rappers are no better, look what they rap about "Gettin' some". It's all the same.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

you know I was doggin' this song to my daughter and she just walked over and put in "head" by Prince and asked me what was the difference

Parenting sucks some days

Rhondab said:

I love your daughter. She's a smartass. How old is she?

CalhounSq said:

Think Joe Crack is talking about Video hoes and female rappers. We know how the video chicks act, but also the female rappers. Shawnn, La Chat, old school Foxxy Brown and Kim, what did they rap about "Gettin' some/Give you some ..."?

But Joe and the rappers are no better, look what they rap about "Gettin' some". It's all the same.

Fat Joe gets his props from me for being honest. Especially the Oprah comment. Just Because your black doesn't mean you have to like hip hop. That took balls! Joe Crack is alright with me.

BlackBuddy said:

The stories about Rhonda's daughter are so great They seem to have a great relationship.

you know I was doggin' this song to my daughter and she just walked over and put in "head" by Prince and asked me what was the difference

VoicesCarry said:

she is 15 and I do enjoy her. She cracks me up with her take on stuff. Its just a trip to get your own sarcasm thrown back in your face and she'll do it so that you really can't get mad at her because the heffa will be RIGHT

After I beat her with a stick, I go, "see that's my child "


let me tell you guys a secret: I actually talk with my kid. That's all it is. We talk about images in music, abortion, all of it.


And back to the subject, Remy Ma is an idiot and this is another reason why this is now such a great issue.Remy has said that women need to get theirs even if its using their bodies to do it.

She's the future.

See, I don't mind you being a hoe, or representin' for the hoes but damn, be a smart hoe. Some of these young women, who really are trading sex, sexual images, etc for money just aren't even smart about it.
[Edited 7/17/06 4:06am]

Rhondab said:

Can't argue with that kid's logic. It's hard to flame rappers who rap about sex, when most of the musicians we listen to sing about it. Prince, Rick James, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, etc., etc. They all do it.

uPtoWnNY said:

But I think there is a difference. In Prince's "Head," for example, the female is a character in the song, just like he is. You know something about her. She isn't just some ho sucking his dick. As a matter of fact, most of the song is about him going down on her.

In songs like "Gettin' Some (Head)", women are nothing but nameless, faceless bitches good for getting your dick sucked.

FunkMistress said:

it's more of an equal, reciprocal thing in "head" though...

That Kelis chick has become the # 1 video ho IMHO. I thought Christina's "dirrty" was bad and Jessica Simpsons' "these boots..", but this ho takes the first prize!

kisscamille said:

How do you figure that? Sorry, I just don't see it.

CalhounSq said:

Think Joe Crack is talking about Video hoes and female rappers. We know how the video chicks act, but also the female rappers. Shawnna, La Chat, old school Foxxy Brown and Kim, what did they rap about "Gettin' some/Give you some ..."?

But Joe and the rappers are no better, look what they rap about "Gettin' some". It's all the same.

kisscamille said:

How do you figure that? Sorry, I just don't see it.

Yeah my only problem with this statement is that uses the "video chicks" all over his videos, so who is he kidding with this statement. Unless he is doing a total 360 from his image but somehow i think this is just a way to get his name out there, must have a cd coming out again.

dancerella said:

We all see things differently. No need to apologize.

The videos I have seen of her are all the same. She acts like she's just giving it away for free. I have no respect for her as an artist. She could be someone more than she is, but she chooses to act like a video ho in some of her videos. Milkshake was a total disgrace. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a little sexuality (I am a Prince fan ) but Kelis just reminds me of every other video ho I've seen over the past couple of years. And, the grill in her mouth is just the most god-awful thing I've seen on a chick in a while.
[Edited 7/17/06 13:17pm]

kisscamille said:

you obviously haven't seen her earlier vids. I don't put kelis into the video hoe category...she's super sexy...but not quite lil'kimish to me. Somethings a little different.

kisscamille said:

How do you figure that? Sorry, I just don't see it.

dancerella said:

Milkshake was about sucking dick