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Thread started 06/27/06 7:17am

krazykid18

1987 - 1988 Greatest Era for Young Black Youth Music

Prince dropped his greatest LP Sign o Times, Mike Jack dropped Bad, Keith Sweat dropped Make It Last FOrever, Al B Sure dropped In Effect Mode, New Edition dropped Heartbreak, Alexander O Neal dropped Hearsay Bobby Brown dropped the highest selling LP out of all on this list Don't Be Cruel, Guy dropped Guy, Terrence Trent D'arby came with his classic

on the rap side of things:

Public ENemy dropped there classic It Takes A Million, Slick RIck dropped his storytelling classic "Great Adventures Of Slick Rick, Eric B and Ra came back out with "Follow The Leader", Big Daddy Kane with his debut, Stetasonice the first hip hop band, BDP cameback out, EPMD, Kool G Rap and so many more on the rap scene

Classic were getting dropped, and young black people were allover TV, forcing mTV to finally accept black music, and tours were selling out, Def Jam tour in 88, with Public Enemy, fresh prince and Run DMC, LL Cool J on the rnb side, you had the classic Heartbreak tour with all young rnb people in NE, Bobby, and Al B Sure. You had Mike Jack's Bad tour, and Prince Sign O Times tour

All around music great time period
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Reply #1 posted 06/27/06 7:25am

Graycap23

Compared 2 what?
How about P-Funk, Bootsy, Earth-Wind-Fire, Ohio Players, Faze-O, Maze, Cameo, The Barkeys, Confunksion, Steve Arrington, Slave, Heatwave, Isley Brothers, Brothers Johnson, The Jacksons, Herbie Hancock, Zapp, Roger, ………..and a host of others out in the same time frame.
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Reply #2 posted 06/27/06 7:31am

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By the time 1987 had rolled around, things had fallen way off. There were still a lot of great songs out there but nothing like 1984 and earlier. After 1985, R&B had become much weaker because too many people were watering their music down trying to crossover to pop and full fledged balladeers were starting to take over also. Thanks a lot, Shitney Houston.
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Reply #3 posted 06/27/06 7:45am

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Graycap23 said:

Compared 2 what?
How about P-Funk, Bootsy, Earth-Wind-Fire, Ohio Players, Faze-O, Maze, Cameo, The Barkeys, Confunksion, Steve Arrington, Slave, Heatwave, Isley Brothers, Brothers Johnson, The Jacksons, Herbie Hancock, Zapp, Roger, ………..and a host of others out in the same time frame.


Hell yeah. That's my favorite era.....1975-1984. Funk, funk, and more funk. Not just funk, but strong funk.
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Reply #4 posted 06/27/06 7:47am

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Graycap23 said:

Compared 2 what?
How about P-Funk, Bootsy, Earth-Wind-Fire, Ohio Players, Faze-O, Maze, Cameo, The Barkeys, Confunksion, Steve Arrington, Slave, Heatwave, Isley Brothers, Brothers Johnson, The Jacksons, Herbie Hancock, Zapp, Roger, ………..and a host of others out in the same time frame.




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Reply #5 posted 06/27/06 7:59am

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Graycap23 said:

Compared 2 what?
How about P-Funk, Bootsy, Earth-Wind-Fire, Ohio Players, Faze-O, Maze, Cameo, The Barkeys, Confunksion, Steve Arrington, Slave, Heatwave, Isley Brothers, Brothers Johnson, The Jacksons, Herbie Hancock, Zapp, Roger, ………..and a host of others out in the same time frame.



for young black youth, no offense, but with the exception of the Jacksons, most of these groups were around for a long period before they finally peaked, in 1987 young black youth music was hitting with the exception of Jack and Purple who were both like 27 or 28 the rest of these cats where young people
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Reply #6 posted 06/27/06 8:02am

Graycap23

krazykid18 said:

Graycap23 said:

Compared 2 what?
How about P-Funk, Bootsy, Earth-Wind-Fire, Ohio Players, Faze-O, Maze, Cameo, The Barkeys, Confunksion, Steve Arrington, Slave, Heatwave, Isley Brothers, Brothers Johnson, The Jacksons, Herbie Hancock, Zapp, Roger, ………..and a host of others out in the same time frame.



for young black youth, no offense, but with the exception of the Jacksons, most of these groups were around for a long period before they finally peaked, in 1987 young black youth music was hitting with the exception of Jack and Purple who were both like 27 or 28 the rest of these cats where young people



I dig. Now if u would have said "for young Black youth" I would have agreed right off the bat.
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Reply #7 posted 06/27/06 8:13am

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I think James Brown would have something to say about that.
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Reply #8 posted 06/27/06 8:15am

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Graycap23 said:

krazykid18 said:




for young black youth, no offense, but with the exception of the Jacksons, most of these groups were around for a long period before they finally peaked, in 1987 young black youth music was hitting with the exception of Jack and Purple who were both like 27 or 28 the rest of these cats where young people



I dig. Now if u would have said "for young Black youth" I would have agreed right off the bat. I guess u did in your title thread.....
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lol It didn't originally say that.
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Reply #9 posted 06/27/06 8:30am

Graycap23

RipHer2Shreds said:

Graycap23 said:




I dig. Now if u would have said "for young Black youth" I would have agreed right off the bat. I guess u did in your title thread.....
[Edited 6/27/06 8:03am]

lol It didn't originally say that.




Ahh...it was edited. Good catch.
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Reply #10 posted 06/27/06 8:52am

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Um, someone tell Krazykid (crazy is right) that an "era" ISN'T a 1 YEAR PERIOD. lol lol

It would have been better had you said 87-92, THAT makes more sense and THAT can be considered an "era."
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Reply #11 posted 06/27/06 9:01am

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StoneCrib said:

Um, someone tell Krazykid (crazy is right) that an "era" ISN'T a 1 YEAR PERIOD. lol lol

It would have been better had you said 87-92, THAT makes more sense and THAT can be considered an "era."



actually, smart ass, an era is a couple of yrs, and 87 and 88 are two years, which makes it a couple of years, so it can be considered an era. Like Jan 1st of 1987 - Decemeber 31, 1989 is a long period
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Reply #12 posted 06/27/06 9:19am

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krazykid18 said:

StoneCrib said:

Um, someone tell Krazykid (crazy is right) that an "era" ISN'T a 1 YEAR PERIOD. lol lol

It would have been better had you said 87-92, THAT makes more sense and THAT can be considered an "era."



actually, smart ass, an era is a couple of yrs, and 87 and 88 are two years, which makes it a couple of years, so it can be considered an era. Like Jan 1st of 1987 - Decemeber 31, 1989 is a long period

Well, you're half right, I am SMART. And again, an era ISN'T a 1 year period or evena 2 year period, no matter how much you try and bullshit us into believing that.
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Reply #13 posted 06/27/06 9:30am

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KrazyKid's right. '88 will always be known as the "Golden Era of Rap"- all of the Next Plateau artists, Too $hort, Rakim/Big Daddy Kane/Biz Markie, BDP and Self Destruction, Compton/Gangsta rap, and the greatest time for Def Jam. On the R&B side, that was the beginning of New Jack Swing, not to mention the classic output from Luther Vandross, Anita Baker, Whitney Houston, EVERYTHING that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis was producing, as well as production from the Calloway Bros., Full Force, and early LA/Babyface tunes.

Yeah, I'm getting teary-eyed. Coupled with the titles and artists that Krazykid mentioned in his orginal post, the music from that period will never be surpassed- late '60's Black Music and mid-'70's Black Music was wonderful and influential, but today's dance music (hip hop, pop, club music) is all a continuation of the sampling, lyrical attitude, and innovation from the period mentioned in the subject line.

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Reply #14 posted 06/27/06 10:02am

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The Golden Age of Rap was 86-94, right before gangsta rap took over and fucked it all up.

You youngins better stick to Elmo and Barney topics. lol lol
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Reply #15 posted 06/27/06 10:20am

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CoolMF said:

KrazyKid's right. '88 will always be known as the "Golden Era of Rap"- all of the Next Plateau artists, Too $hort, Rakim/Big Daddy Kane/Biz Markie, BDP and Self Destruction, Compton/Gangsta rap, and the greatest time for Def Jam. On the R&B side, that was the beginning of New Jack Swing, not to mention the classic output from Luther Vandross, Anita Baker, Whitney Houston, EVERYTHING that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis was producing, as well as production from the Calloway Bros., Full Force, and early LA/Babyface tunes.

Yeah, I'm getting teary-eyed. Coupled with the titles and artists that Krazykid mentioned in his orginal post, the music from that period will never be surpassed- late '60's Black Music and mid-'70's Black Musicwas wonderful and influential, but today's dance music(hip hop, pop, club music) is all a continuation of the sampling, lyrical attitude, and innovation from the period mentioned in the subject line.

Word.




hmmm And what did they have to "sample" (writing music was just tooooo hard) to create the "innovative music" for this Golden Era?

Word indeed. cool


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Reply #16 posted 06/27/06 2:48pm

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OK.....since the title of the thread has changed to music for young black youth, these two years seemed more like years for "older black parents" since soooo much of them were taken up by adult contemporary artists like Shi...uh...Whitney Houston, Anita Baker, and Freddie Jackson. I think Regina Belle came in around this time also. Hell, I don't know, I'm trying forget how depressing things became. lol
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Reply #17 posted 06/27/06 3:01pm

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OK.....since the title of the thread has changed to music for young black youth, these two years seemed more like years for "older black parents" since soooo much of them were taken up by adult contemporary artists like Shi...uh...Whitney Houston, Anita Baker, and Freddie Jackson. I think Regina Belle came in around this time also. Hell, I don't know, I'm trying forget how depressing things became. lol

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Reply #18 posted 06/27/06 3:03pm

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theAudience said:

CoolMF said:

KrazyKid's right. '88 will always be known as the "Golden Era of Rap"- all of the Next Plateau artists, Too $hort, Rakim/Big Daddy Kane/Biz Markie, BDP and Self Destruction, Compton/Gangsta rap, and the greatest time for Def Jam. On the R&B side, that was the beginning of New Jack Swing, not to mention the classic output from Luther Vandross, Anita Baker, Whitney Houston, EVERYTHING that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis was producing, as well as production from the Calloway Bros., Full Force, and early LA/Babyface tunes.

Yeah, I'm getting teary-eyed. Coupled with the titles and artists that Krazykid mentioned in his orginal post, the music from that period will never be surpassed- late '60's Black Music and mid-'70's Black Musicwas wonderful and influential, but today's dance music(hip hop, pop, club music) is all a continuation of the sampling, lyrical attitude, and innovation from the period mentioned in the subject line.

Word.




hmmm And what did they have to "sample" (writing music was just tooooo hard) to create the "innovative music" for this Golden Era?

Word indeed. cool


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They were sampling the living hell out of James Brown during this era. In the early 1980s, most of the rap got mainstream R&B radio airplay in my area. During the late 1980s, a lot of rap never got played on the mainstream R&B stations in my area and I can certainly see why. The stations still played the rap that was jams such as Egyptian Lover, L. A. Dream Team, Pretty Tony and Freestyle, Run DMC, J.J. Fad, B.O.S.E., 2 Live Crew (clean versions LOL), etc. However, a lot of rap was becoming much more stripped of instruments, the tempo was becoming much slower, and samples were starting to take it over. A lot of the rap made during this time later influenced how rap became in the 1990s and present.....stripped down and midtempo.
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Reply #19 posted 06/28/06 6:16am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

vainandy said:

OK.....since the title of the thread has changed to music for young black youth, these two years seemed more like years for "older black parents" since soooo much of them were taken up by adult contemporary artists like Shi...uh...Whitney Houston, Anita Baker, and Freddie Jackson. I think Regina Belle came in around this time also. Hell, I don't know, I'm trying forget how depressing things became. lol

I'm gonna give that woman your address so she can hunt you down and burn you with a pipe.


I'll have her locked up like Rick James and when she gets out, she'll be as bald headed without her wig as he was without his. lol
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Reply #20 posted 06/28/06 6:26am

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Jams were getting very scarce during this time but here are a few....

Relationship - Lakeside
Snake In The Grass - Midnight Star
Certified True - The Barkays
You Make Me Work - Cameo
Looking For A New Love - Jody Watley
Fishnet - Morris Day
Love Struck - Jesse Johnson
Cowboy - Ready For The World
Yes (If You Want Me) - Junior
Misunderstood - Mico Wave
System Of Survival - Earth, Wind, and Fire
She Only Rocks And Rolls - L.A. Dream Team
Baddest Beats Around - The Egyptian Lover
Give It All You Got - Afro Rican
Move Something - 2 Live Crew
Supersonic - J.J. Fad
Planet E - The Egyptian Lover
I'm Real - James Brown
The Right Stuff - Vanessa Williams
Just The Type Of Girl - Madame X
Mia Bocca - Jill Jones
It - Prince
Bang Bang - Brown Mark
10 - Madhouse
Pump Up The Volume - MARS
World Racial War - Afrika Bambaata
You Better Quit - One Way
Head To Toe - Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam
Point Of No Return - Expose ?
Do It Properly - A Dominican, A Puerto Rican, and a Blackman?
Gotta Have House Music (All Night Long) - ?
You Used To Hold Me - ?
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Reply #21 posted 06/28/06 6:58am

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just another excuse to talk about Bobby Brown!!!
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