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Raheem DeVaughn's Prototype Has anyone else heard his version of Protoype? Its KILLER! So that's what it sounds like when a real singer sings this song. I'm tellin' ya, some of you are sleeping on Mr. DeVaughn. He's the bridge between contemporary R&B and Neo-Soul and he's doing it well. Someone will post about him on his next CD and he'll become a favorite just like Van Hunt with a big multi-page post. The org is usually slow when it comes to newer R&B artists. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Has anyone else heard his version of Protoype? Its KILLER! So that's what it sounds like when a real singer sings this song. I'm tellin' ya, some of you are sleeping on Mr. DeVaughn. He's the bridge between contemporary R&B and Neo-Soul and he's doing it well. Someone will post about him on his next CD and he'll become a favorite just like Van Hunt with a big multi-page post. The org is usually slow when it comes to newer R&B artists.
someone started a thread about Raheem Devaughn about a month ago or longer | |
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I don't think there's a thing wrong with the original, but I like his take on it. The production is virtually identical. Vocally, he reminds me of D'Angelo. Good song. Is it a B-side?
I remember a DeVaughn thread a little bit ago. And if folks are slow to find new artists, so be it.  I'm just now discovering folks that I like from 30 years ago. | |
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banks said: someone started a thread about Raheem Devaughn about a month ago or longer Yeah, me. | |
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I like it. His voice is more appealing than Andre's. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: I like it. His voice is more appealing than Andre's.
That's because Andre can't sing. There, I said it. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: JackieBlue said: I like it. His voice is more appealing than Andre's.
That's because Andre can't sing. There, I said it. Tru dat! Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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I have Rah's CD and it's ok, not that great. His forced poetry bothers the hell out of me. He has maybe 3 cuts on there that are cool. I don't see what all the hype is over him just yet. Hell, the REAL "Rah" - Rahsaan Patterson is light years ahead of Raheem if you wanna be real about it. I can also tell you about a cat named Geno Young who's nicer than Raheem, which I think who Raheem unknowingly is striving to be. Geno wrote and produced for Badu and N'Dambi. I think we need to give props to the cats that laid the groundwork.
  
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I disagree with you. I think Raheem's CD is pretty tight. Yes, Rashaad Patterson is a better vocalist. He can't seem to get a hit, though. Even with Van Hunt producing some of his tracks. He's got a great voice but his songs don't really stick. I thought "Stop By" was probably his most catchy song and that was years ago. I think it may be because of the "g" factor. I think labels are thinking that will hurt his sales with his target market. You know the black crowd is less giving when it comes to that. Its a shame but its true. See what the "g" rumors did to Sisqo? | |
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BlaqueKnight said: I disagree with you. I think Raheem's CD is pretty tight. Yes, Rashaad Patterson is a better vocalist. He can't seem to get a hit, though. Even with Van Hunt producing some of his tracks. He's got a great voice but his songs don't really stick. I thought "Stop By" was probably his most catchy song and that was years ago. I think it may be because of the "g" factor. I think labels are thinking that will hurt his sales with his target market. You know the black crowd is less giving when it comes to that. Its a shame but its true. See what the "g" rumors did to Sisqo?
I actually don't think that has anything to do with it, people knew for years that Luther was gay and it didn't hurt him. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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StoneCrib said: I actually don't think that has anything to do with it, people knew for years that Luther was gay and it didn't hurt him. Luther came up in a different time period in the music industry and Luther NEVER publicly commented on his sexuality. To this day, people still debate over it. If you don't think it matters, name me three openly gay male contemporary R&B singers. I think his success is limited mainly because he's getting the Mint Condition treatment. There's a such thing as "too good" and if the industry doesn't think they can make the most out of you, they will supress you. Its been done. i know of a few acts who got signed by major labels just to get shelved and locked in a contract because the labels felt they were competition for another artist and wanted them out of the way. [Edited 6/22/06 11:19am] | |
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BlaqueKnight said: StoneCrib said: I actually don't think that has anything to do with it, people knew for years that Luther was gay and it didn't hurt him. Luther came up in a different time period in the music industry and Luther NEVER publicly commented on his sexuality. To this day, people still debate over it. If you don't think it matters, name me three openly gay male contemporary R&B singers. I think his success is limited mainly because he's getting the Mint Condition treatment. There's a such thing as "too good" and if the industry doesn't think they can make the most out of you, they will supress you. Its been done. i know of a few acts who got signed by major labels just to get shelved and locked in a contract because the labels felt they were competition for another artist and wanted them out of the way. [Edited 6/22/06 11:19am] It was worse when Luther was coming up because it wasn't as openly accepted as it is now. Hell, name 3 rockers that are openly gay. Name 3 rappers that are openly gay. Pop stars can get away with it as far as being more openly with it but no one is in a rush to come out to their fans. KD Lang, Melissa Etheridge, and Elton John are the only ones that come to mind. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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StoneCrib said: It was worse when Luther was coming up because it wasn't as openly accepted as it is now. Hell, name 3 rockers that are openly gay. Name 3 rappers that are openly gay. Pop stars can get away with it as far as being more openly with it but no one is in a rush to come out to their fans. KD Lang, Melissa Etheridge, and Elton John are the only ones that come to mind. You can't honestly say "it doesn't matter", though. Come on now. That's simply NOT TRUE. The industry of today is all about marketing. A bad image move will send you directly ti nicheville which could easily equal up to fewer CD sales which almost always equal up to dismissal. It matters or else more people would be coming out. Statistically, its impossible for some of these rappers and singers NOT to be gay. I still think it has more to do with supression than the gay factor but I'm not going to pretend that image doesn't matter in an image-driven business. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: StoneCrib said: It was worse when Luther was coming up because it wasn't as openly accepted as it is now. Hell, name 3 rockers that are openly gay. Name 3 rappers that are openly gay. Pop stars can get away with it as far as being more openly with it but no one is in a rush to come out to their fans. KD Lang, Melissa Etheridge, and Elton John are the only ones that come to mind. You can't honestly say "it doesn't matter", though. Come on now. That's simply NOT TRUE. The industry of today is all about marketing. A bad image move will send you directly ti nicheville which could easily equal up to fewer CD sales which almost always equal up to dismissal. It matters or else more people would be coming out. Statistically, its impossible for some of these rappers and singers NOT to be gay. I still think it has more to do with supression than the gay factor but I'm not going to pretend that image doesn't matter in an image-driven business. Yeah, thats why I said in some genres you can't do it, but Rahsaan could do it if radio played him. Radio play is Rah's problem, not really his gayness. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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BlaqueKnight said: StoneCrib said: It was worse when Luther was coming up because it wasn't as openly accepted as it is now. Hell, name 3 rockers that are openly gay. Name 3 rappers that are openly gay. Pop stars can get away with it as far as being more openly with it but no one is in a rush to come out to their fans. KD Lang, Melissa Etheridge, and Elton John are the only ones that come to mind. You can't honestly say "it doesn't matter", though. Come on now. That's simply NOT TRUE. The industry of today is all about marketing. A bad image move will send you directly ti nicheville which could easily equal up to fewer CD sales which almost always equal up to dismissal. It matters or else more people would be coming out. Statistically, its impossible for some of these rappers and singers NOT to be gay. I still think it has more to do with supression than the gay factor but I'm not going to pretend that image doesn't matter in an image-driven business. I kinda agree with BlaqueKnight... after Tevin Campbell got caught in that sting he couldn't buy a hit | |
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StoneCrib said: Yeah, thats why I said in some genres you can't do it, but Rahsaan could do it if radio played him. Radio play is Rah's problem, not really his gayness. yeah, I think its his biggest problem. Its anybody's biggest problem who's not part of the Clear Channel circle. You shouldn't short out Raheem just yet, though. He new and he's young. I think he can develop into a much bigger artist if they don't x him out. Dude is the bridge; I'm tellin' ya. The neosoul crowd likes him and the contemporary R&B crowd likes him, too. The problem is going to be how long he can ride the fence before he has to choose. | |
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banks said: BlaqueKnight said: You can't honestly say "it doesn't matter", though. Come on now. That's simply NOT TRUE. The industry of today is all about marketing. A bad image move will send you directly ti nicheville which could easily equal up to fewer CD sales which almost always equal up to dismissal. It matters or else more people would be coming out. Statistically, its impossible for some of these rappers and singers NOT to be gay. I still think it has more to do with supression than the gay factor but I'm not going to pretend that image doesn't matter in an image-driven business. I kinda agree with BlaqueKnight... after Tevin Campbell got caught in that sting he couldn't buy a hit Tevin was on the decline even before that though. Plus, people suspected/knew he was gay well before the sting. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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BlaqueKnight said: StoneCrib said: Yeah, thats why I said in some genres you can't do it, but Rahsaan could do it if radio played him. Radio play is Rah's problem, not really his gayness. yeah, I think its his biggest problem. Its anybody's biggest problem who's not part of the Clear Channel circle. You shouldn't short out Raheem just yet, though. He new and he's young. I think he can develop into a much bigger artist if they don't x him out. Dude is the bridge; I'm tellin' ya. The neosoul crowd likes him and the contemporary R&B crowd likes him, too. The problem is going to be how long he can ride the fence before he has to choose. Yeah, I like his sound for the most part, it's just the poetry skits that kinda wore me out. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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I've had Raheem's CD for quite a while now. As someone said..Its "GOOD" not "GREAT" tho.... | |
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I saw him live last summer.
He's a cool guy and he has an awesome voice. He gave his phone number out to the audience, which I thought was hella weird If you will, so will I | |
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