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Reply #60 posted 06/21/06 3:57am

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I know! eek I thought it was a first. lol



you guys agree with me? lol



I loved the documentary but I can't remember those scenes exactly; I only watched it the once when they showed it over here. nod

You'd have been proud of me, David. smile A very good friend of mine - who's not a fan as such; she's quite young as well - and I watched 'In Bed With Madonna/Truth Or Dare' the week before (she'd never seen it) and she LOVED it! So she couldn't wait to see 'I'm Going To Tell You A Secret'. smile

She was particularly surprised by the difference between Madonna Then & Madonna Now.

I'm trying to convince her to come and see her live as well. No luck so far. sad
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Reply #61 posted 06/21/06 4:07am

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onenitealone said:

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you guys agree with me? lol



I loved the documentary but I can't remember those scenes exactly; I only watched it the once when they showed it over here. nod

You'd have been proud of me, David. smile A very good friend of mine - who's not a fan as such; she's quite young as well - and I watched 'In Bed With Madonna/Truth Or Dare' the week before (she'd never seen it) and she LOVED it! So she couldn't wait to see 'I'm Going To Tell You A Secret'. smile

She was particularly surprised by the difference between Madonna Then & Madonna Now.

I'm trying to convince her to come and see her live as well. No luck so far. sad



'Truth Or Dare' is classic.I love watching that lol no boring scenes at all
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Reply #62 posted 06/21/06 4:18am

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'Truth Or Dare' is classic.I love watching that lol no boring scenes at all


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It was the first time I'd watched it in years but I loved every minute of it. smile

The scene where she goes to visit her mother's grave... bawl I knew my mate would be bawling at that.

Watching that, then 'IGTTYAS', was like a potted history of Madonna. giggle
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Reply #63 posted 06/21/06 4:21am

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Reply #64 posted 06/21/06 4:22am

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Reply #65 posted 06/21/06 4:24am

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Has anyone seen the one that comes packaged in a DVD case? That's the one I want but when I went to Best Buy yesterday,they only had the one in the jewel case mad
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Reply #66 posted 06/21/06 4:26am

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Has anyone seen the one that comes packaged in a DVD case? That's the one I want but when I went to Best Buy yesterday,they only had the one in the jewel case mad



Loads of them over here. nod They seem to be selling the dvd/cd versions 50/50.
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Reply #67 posted 06/21/06 4:27am

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onenitealone said:

DavidEye said:




Has anyone seen the one that comes packaged in a DVD case? That's the one I want but when I went to Best Buy yesterday,they only had the one in the jewel case mad



Loads of them over here. nod They seem to be selling the dvd/cd versions 50/50.




mad mad mad mad
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Reply #68 posted 06/21/06 4:28am

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onenitealone said:


Loads of them over here. nod They seem to be selling the dvd/cd versions 50/50.


Yeah, mine was the DVD case, seemed a pretty even split, which left me to ponder, which chart will it be eligable for?
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Reply #69 posted 06/21/06 4:52am

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ok, long time fan here, but kinda lapsed since 2001...

i just picked up this set and was kinda bummed about the breif concert scenes, being aussie, we never get her tours (bar 93) so the only way to see em is on DVD.

So question to a current hard-core M fan: Whats the deal with the non-releases of Blonde ambition & RIT on DVD? is there some ownership issues with the concert footage?

I notice when janet tours we have the live DVD before it even begins...so why the 16 year wait for a concert DVD for madonna fans?

Kinda bums me out cuz i think her shows are second to none...well except the 3121 dude naturally smile


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Reply #70 posted 06/21/06 5:02am

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ok, long time fan here, but kinda lapsed since 2001...

i just picked up this set and was kinda bummed about the breif concert scenes, being aussie, we never get her tours (bar 93) so the only way to see em is on DVD.

So question to a current hard-core M fan: Whats the deal with the non-releases of Blonde ambition & RIT on DVD? is there some ownership issues with the concert footage?

I notice when janet tours we have the live DVD before it even begins...so why the 16 year wait for a concert DVD for madonna fans?

Kinda bums me out cuz i think her shows are second to none...well except the 3121 dude naturally smile


No one really knows why. That's always been the big mystery, is it Madonna or Warner's fault.

But not all of Janet's tours are available either, the Rhythm Nation tour for example.

Madge said in an interview last year that Re-invention couldn't be released until the documentry was released by contract.
She also said they were in the planning stages of releasing a boxset of all her tours. When this will happen is beyond me.
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Reply #71 posted 06/21/06 5:25am

miguelbulcao

I'm gonna buy it now...

Going to the store now! cool
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Reply #72 posted 06/21/06 5:35am

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i wish i could have found it in DVD packaging.
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Reply #73 posted 06/21/06 5:39am

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i wish i could have found it in DVD packaging.


That's a special bonus for fanatical fans..something you are not!

lol lol lol

Just kidding !!!!
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Reply #74 posted 06/21/06 5:59am

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Anx said:

i wish i could have found it in DVD packaging.


That's a special bonus for fanatical fans..something you are not!

lol lol lol

Just kidding !!!!


so it's kind of the equivalent of a tamboracca?
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Reply #75 posted 06/21/06 6:37am

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I watched the documetary yesterday and I think it's interesting up to the part when the tour ends and everyone says goodbye.After that,it becomes extremely boring and self-indulgent.Seeing Madonna visit Israel and attending Kabbalah classes isn't the least bit thrilling.

I totally disagree. Thematically, I think it's the perfect ending to the film.
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Reply #76 posted 06/21/06 8:21am

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CrozzaUK said:

onenitealone said:


Loads of them over here. nod They seem to be selling the dvd/cd versions 50/50.


Yeah, mine was the DVD case, seemed a pretty even split, which left me to ponder, which chart will it be eligable for?



hmmm


Hmmm, I didn't think of that.

I haven't bought mine yet but I'm not sure which one to get. hmmm It'll probably be the cd version, I reckon - I'd like to have it with the rest of her albums. geek
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Reply #77 posted 06/21/06 10:29am

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Wait! You mean the cd part that has Justify My Love-Beast Withing Mix is LIVE and not the beside of that Vogue single years ago?

Its from her last concert live? neutral
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Reply #78 posted 06/21/06 10:33am

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Wait! You mean the cd part that has Justify My Love-Beast Withing Mix is LIVE and not the beside of that Vogue single years ago?

Its from her last concert live? neutral


It's the version that was played on the screens before she came on. It's not technically live though.
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Reply #79 posted 06/21/06 10:36am

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DiamondGirl said:

Wait! You mean the cd part that has Justify My Love-Beast Withing Mix is LIVE and not the beside of that Vogue single years ago?

Its from her last concert live? neutral


It's the version that was played on the screens before she came on. It's not technically live though.



Oh but I never seen that reinvention tour..did they just take it from the released version then and just play it on the PA system..if so then it is probably the b-side one Yay!!!

Oh and Ive never seen that documentary--only like 20 minutes worth so I should get th e double version right? cd and dvd?
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Reply #80 posted 06/21/06 10:46am

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DiamondGirl said:

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It's the version that was played on the screens before she came on. It's not technically live though.



Oh but I never seen that reinvention tour..did they just take it from the released version then and just play it on the PA system..if so then it is probably the b-side one Yay!!!

Oh and Ive never seen that documentary--only like 20 minutes worth so I should get th e double version right? cd and dvd?



The Justify My Love chorus is left out. Some added verses of Revlations and some dropped out. It's not the full B-Side but it is a still the Beast Within. Just like the version on the Girlie Show is slighty different because it dropped parts of the remix out.

Either way The Beast Within is still a great thing to own.
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Reply #81 posted 06/21/06 10:49am

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jayaredee said:

xperience319 said:

ok, long time fan here, but kinda lapsed since 2001...

i just picked up this set and was kinda bummed about the breif concert scenes, being aussie, we never get her tours (bar 93) so the only way to see em is on DVD.

So question to a current hard-core M fan: Whats the deal with the non-releases of Blonde ambition & RIT on DVD? is there some ownership issues with the concert footage?

I notice when janet tours we have the live DVD before it even begins...so why the 16 year wait for a concert DVD for madonna fans?

Kinda bums me out cuz i think her shows are second to none...well except the 3121 dude naturally smile


No one really knows why. That's always been the big mystery, is it Madonna or Warner's fault.

But not all of Janet's tours are available either, the Rhythm Nation tour for example.

Madge said in an interview last year that Re-invention couldn't be released until the documentry was released by contract.
She also said they were in the planning stages of releasing a boxset of all her tours. When this will happen is beyond me.



Pioneer owned the rights to BAT for many years and that hindered it's release. They released it on LaserDisc. I think though the rights have or will so revert back to Madonna soon.

RIT i think is still tied up in limbo because of the failed showing on CBS. Though the showing of I'm Going to Tell A Secert on MTV and VH1 might have made up for it... hince the waiting for it to come out on DVD before RIT.
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Reply #82 posted 06/21/06 10:50am

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Oh but I never seen that reinvention tour..did they just take it from the released version then and just play it on the PA system..if so then it is probably the b-side one Yay!!!

Oh and Ive never seen that documentary--only like 20 minutes worth so I should get th e double version right? cd and dvd?



The Justify My Love chorus is left out. Some added verses of Revlations and some dropped out. It's not the full B-Side but it is a still the Beast Within. Just like the version on the Girlie Show is slighty different because it dropped parts of the remix out.

Either way The Beast Within is still a great thing to own.


Dagnabbit!

well I guess a partial Beast Within is better then none (on cd that is)

Was it ever released on cd? Oh well. Im going to pick this up later on today or tommorow and blast that thang.

That ish is her own Others Here With Us
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Reply #83 posted 06/21/06 10:51am

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DiamondGirl said:

ehuffnsd said:




The Justify My Love chorus is left out. Some added verses of Revlations and some dropped out. It's not the full B-Side but it is a still the Beast Within. Just like the version on the Girlie Show is slighty different because it dropped parts of the remix out.

Either way The Beast Within is still a great thing to own.


Dagnabbit!

well I guess a partial Beast Within is better then none (on cd that is)

Was it ever released on cd? Oh well. Im going to pick this up later on today or tommorow and blast that thang.

That ish is her own Others Here With Us



Yup it was released on CD when Justify My Love was released on CD... it's on ebay i'm sure and sometimes they have it on Amazon
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Reply #84 posted 06/21/06 10:53am

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ehuffnsd said:

DiamondGirl said:



Dagnabbit!

well I guess a partial Beast Within is better then none (on cd that is)

Was it ever released on cd? Oh well. Im going to pick this up later on today or tommorow and blast that thang.

That ish is her own Others Here With Us



Yup it was released on CD when Justify My Love was released on CD... it's on ebay i'm sure and sometimes they have it on Amazon


It can be found on the American Maxi-Single of Justify My Love... cool
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Reply #85 posted 06/21/06 1:14pm

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I agree that as her first live album this disappoints somewhat. Considering how stellar her backing bands used to be, she could have produced kick ass live albums for the Blond Ambition or Girlie Show tours, however, her current live band have to much of a "backing track" vibe about them, no matter how technically gifted they may be, this doesn't translate Im afraid.

There isnt enough of a live vibe to the tracks, particularly the ones she lip synchs (ALL of which are included for some bizarre erason). Why include Die Another Day?? It sounds almost identical to the album version with a bit of crowd noise. Crazy For You, Dont Tell Me, Express Yourself, Frozen would have all been better choices. In fact she should ahve simply realesaed the whole concert. I know its meant to be a soundtrack, but i dont think it quite works in edited form.


That said its worth it for having crystal clear versions of Like A Prayer, Lament, Into The Groove and Mother & Father (One of her most underrated songs - A bit more thought and better production and this would have been the best song on American Life).

I hate to be a whingeing fan, but i so frequently get excited by these things, only to be disappointed because I dont feel Madonna has done herself justice.



I completely agree. After skimming the DVD for the AL video, I gave up on it and listened to the CD but couldn't get into it. Yes, her earlier tours did sound better. I've never been so let down by a Madonna release. I sometimes think that she really has no idea how to release her back catalog (including this release), Her greatest hits sets have both been iffy along with her prior video collections (what was the deal with the 93-99 set...so fucked up!). For such a marketing genius, she sure fucks up a lot.
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Reply #86 posted 06/21/06 1:16pm

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jayaredee said:







Wait til they find out the AL video isn't on there....
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Reply #87 posted 06/21/06 1:17pm

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DavidEye said:

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Loads of them over here. nod They seem to be selling the dvd/cd versions 50/50.




mad mad mad mad


I haven't seen it either....only the CD case.
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Reply #88 posted 06/21/06 1:22pm

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Wait til they find out the AL video isn't on there....



Only the fans on the internet would even have a clue that they intended to release the AL video on the dvd. A casual buyer wouldn't have had that knowledge as it was not even promoted.

If they had any intention of putting the AL video on the dvd, there would be no doubt that it would be mentioned on the sticker.
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Reply #89 posted 06/21/06 2:39pm

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That ish is her own Others Here With Us

totally.
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