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Printablemissfee said: StoneCrib said: This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
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728huey said: StoneCrib said:
This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
I'm not looking to be an aplologist for Jay-Z, but he has a point here. As a business owner, isn't the idea of running a business is to get as much profit as possible for your goods and services? Here's this Frederic Rouzaud guy, whose company has probably made a huge fortune over the last few years with Cristal, thanks to the hip-hop world, yet he comes out and badmouths his own customers. (Granted he's French, and the French people seem to do this regularly.) Why would any businessman with half a brain do this to his own customers? That's like killing the golden goose. What is this guy going to do if Oprah suddenly decides to listen to the hip-hop community and encourages the rest of the world to boycott their products? He should have kept his mouth shut and just taken all that cash.   Oh yeah, Rouzaud is a dumbfuck, too! Nwo granted I doubt he will see a dip in his profits over this but even still, he's stupid to risk ANY drop off in sales over something he really can't control in the first damn place. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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728huey said: StoneCrib said:
This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
I'm not looking to be an aplologist for Jay-Z, but he has a point here. As a business owner, isn't the idea of running a business is to get as much profit as possible for your goods and services? Here's this Frederic Rouzaud guy, whose company has probably made a huge fortune over the last few years with Cristal, thanks to the hip-hop world, yet he comes out and badmouths his own customers. (Granted he's French, and the French people seem to do this regularly.) Why would any businessman with half a brain do this to his own customers? That's like killing the golden goose. What is this guy going to do if Oprah suddenly decides to listen to the hip-hop community and encourages the rest of the world to boycott their products? He should have kept his mouth shut and just taken all that cash. Anyone who's intimately familiar with the world of wine and champagne knows that Cristal has had its own core audience since it was created for Tsar Alexander for over 125 years now . They have made, and will continue to make money without the endorsement of the rap industry via their traditional (and less vocal) demographic of wine scholars, Russian, and French aristocracy Roederer creates for the serious connoiseur who understands and appreciates the mastering time, riddling, and dosage liqueur of a champagne, or the fact that great care is taken to wrap its' clear bottle in yellow cellophane as to protect your tasting experience from the rays of daylight...it can't possibly be pleasing to one of the landmark companies in the history of Cuveé to see something which is so painstakingly prepared to the strictest méthode champagne requirements be poured over the boobies and buttocks' of naked women for today's Mtv generation 
...but hey, of couse I would say this since I'm a "foodie" | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: StoneCrib said: This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
talk! but you and i both know better...that shit ain't gonna happen, at least not in the near future. Yeah, sadly enough you're exactly right. All that's gonna happen is this... I used to down Cristal til my head got bent Now I sip Dom since that muthafucka tripped Damn shame. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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JackieBlue said: Well I'll stick with India on this one...
Keep your fancy drink, and your expensive minks, I don’t need that to have a good time Keep your expensive cars and your caviar All’s I need is my guitar Keep your Cristal and your pistol I’d rather have a pretty piece of crystal --Video  Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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StoneCrib said: JackieBlue said: Well I'll stick with India on this one...
Keep your fancy drink, and your expensive minks, I don’t need that to have a good time Keep your expensive cars and your caviar All’s I need is my guitar Keep your Cristal and your pistol I’d rather have a pretty piece of crystal --Video | |
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Ottensen said: Anyone who's intimately familiar with the world of wine and champagne knows that Cristal has had its own core audience since it was created for Tsar Alexander for over 125 years now . They have made, and will continue to make money without the endorsement of the rap industry via their traditional (and less vocal) demographic of wine scholars, Russian, and French aristocracy Roederer creates for the serious connoiseur who understands and appreciates the mastering time, riddling, and dosage liqueur of a champagne, or the fact that great care is taken to wrap its' clear bottle in yellow cellophane as to protect your tasting experience from the rays of daylight...it can't possibly be pleasing to one of the landmark companies in the history of Cuveé to see something which is so painstakingly prepared to the strictest méthode champagne requirements be poured over the boobies and buttocks' of naked women for today's Mtv generation Well I would imagine that the wine scholars, Russian & French aristocracy and 'serious connoiseurs' hardly pay attention to the fact that Cristal is being poured over the boobies and buttocks of naked women in rap videos, so why should Roederer care? | |
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violator said: Ottensen said: Anyone who's intimately familiar with the world of wine and champagne knows that Cristal has had its own core audience since it was created for Tsar Alexander for over 125 years now . They have made, and will continue to make money without the endorsement of the rap industry via their traditional (and less vocal) demographic of wine scholars, Russian, and French aristocracy Roederer creates for the serious connoiseur who understands and appreciates the mastering time, riddling, and dosage liqueur of a champagne, or the fact that great care is taken to wrap its' clear bottle in yellow cellophane as to protect your tasting experience from the rays of daylight...it can't possibly be pleasing to one of the landmark companies in the history of Cuveé to see something which is so painstakingly prepared to the strictest méthode champagne requirements be poured over the boobies and buttocks' of naked women for today's Mtv generation Well I would imagine that the wine scholars, Russian & French aristocracy and 'serious connoiseurs' hardly pay attention to the fact that Cristal is being poured over the boobies and buttocks of naked women in rap videos, so why should Roederer care? Because IT is his? | |
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Graycap23 said: violator said: Well I would imagine that the wine scholars, Russian & French aristocracy and 'serious connoiseurs' hardly pay attention to the fact that Cristal is being poured over the boobies and buttocks of naked women in rap videos, so why should Roederer care? Because IT is his? Sure it's his but as he stated, it's a public product. He can't control the fact that it's being poured over the boobies and buttock of naked women any more than he can control the weather. Cristal is a well established brand. The core demographic is not likely to stop drinking it because of what's happening in a few rap videos overseas. | |
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Ottensen said: Anyone who's intimately familiar with the world of wine and champagne knows that Cristal has had its own core audience since it was created for Tsar Alexander for over 125 years now . They have made, and will continue to make money without the endorsement of the rap industry via their traditional (and less vocal) demographic of wine scholars, Russian, and French aristocracy
Roederer creates for the serious connoiseur who understands and appreciates the mastering time, riddling, and dosage liqueur of a champagne, or the fact that great care is taken to wrap its' clear bottle in yellow cellophane as to protect your tasting experience from the rays of daylight...it can't possibly be pleasing to one of the landmark companies in the history of Cuveé to see something which is so painstakingly prepared to the strictest méthode champagne requirements be poured over the boobies and buttocks' of naked women for today's Mtv generation
...but hey, of couse I would say this since I'm a "foodie" I can see your point there, but people have been aspiring for the luxuries of the good life since the beginning of man. And you're right about how some of these hip-hop cats who pour Cristal over a bunch of video hoes like it's a bunch of Kool-Aid. If you're going to splash some bubbly over some bubbly asses, use the cheap stuff (Cook's, Totts, Martini & Rossi Asti Spumante, two-buck Chuck). That reminds me a couple of years ago of a co-worker who had a daughter whose friends wanted to go to the liquor store to get a bottle of Courvosier. She asked her if she even knew what Courvosier was, and she said that it was in that Busta Rhymes/P Diddy video.  I believe at the same time, McDonalds actually offered money to some rappers to pitch their burgers in their rhymes. What's really sad about all of this is how pervasive this marketing is to the audience. While I love a good champagne like most other people, I don't need to get Cristal or Dom Perignon every weekend. In fact, there are a lot of sparkling wines which cost a quarter of the amount of Dom and Cristal and taste just as good if not better. Moet & Chandon White Star and Verve Clicqot Yellow Label would do just fine for most people.
Ultimately though, it's about wanting something expensive because you appreciate its merits vs. showing status and trying to impress people. If I buy expensive furniture and gagdetry, I want it because I know it will last me a long time, and I don't really care what other people think of it. | |
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I'm so self concious That's why you always see me with atleast one of my watches Rollie's and Pasha's done drove me crazy I can't even pronounce nothing, pass that versace! Then I spent 400 bucks on this Just to be like nigga you ain't up on this! And I can't even go to the grocery store Without some one's that's clean and a shirt with a team It seems we livin the American dream But the people highest up got the lowest self esteem The prettiest people do the ugliest things For the road to riches and diamond rings We shine because they hate us Floss cause they degrade us We tryna buy back our 40 acres And for that paper, look how low we a stoop Even if you in a Benz You still a nigga in a coupe | |
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728huey said: StoneCrib said:
This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
I'm not looking to be an aplologist for Jay-Z, but he has a point here. As a business owner, isn't the idea of running a business is to get as much profit as possible for your goods and services? Here's this Frederic Rouzaud guy, whose company has probably made a huge fortune over the last few years with Cristal, thanks to the hip-hop world, yet he comes out and badmouths his own customers. (Granted he's French, and the French people seem to do this regularly.) Why would any businessman with half a brain do this to his own customers? That's like killing the golden goose. What is this guy going to do if Oprah suddenly decides to listen to the hip-hop community and encourages the rest of the world to boycott their products? He should have kept his mouth shut and just taken all that cash. I'm glad dude said something - if it takes a comment like that to wake mf's up & have them THINK about what they're so feverishly promoting (as if THEY'RE getting paid for it) then it's a good thing. Of course he could have smiled & acted all happy to have the additional exposure Hip Hop has brought but let's not be foolish - the Hip Hop artists picked this shit up somewhere & there's always been (& will continue to be) plenty of wealthy people still buying it long after the one hit Hip Hop wonders have come & gone. It's like when Oprah had Liz Claiborne on years & years ago - Oprah was all happy wearing a Liz fit & Liz told her straight up (from what I remember), "I never intended for my clothes to be worn by Black people." So Oprah took the suit off I guess it's easy to assume that every business person just wants business no matter who it's from but that ain't the case. Wakey wakey muthafuckas 
Oh, and 728Huey - they're staring to pump Veuve-Clicqout in songs too.  If it's something you can BUY rappers are already rapping about it   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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StoneCrib said: This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
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CalhounSq said: "They're trying to distance themselves from the hip-hop community," Berkowitz said.
Oh mang, the traitors. How do they dare? Distance themselves from the hip-hop community! They need to show some RESPECT for the community. The community has showed all these years their love for the Cristal alcohol beverage manufacturing company and this is what you get. Racist! | |
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StoneCrib said: This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'. Psykosoul's my Org baby daddy but dude, you getting me worked up. 
Fuck Jigga. | |
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Adisa said: Graycap23 said: The way I read this.....Cristal is boycotting hip-hop.
As maybe we all should. | |
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728huey said: StoneCrib said: Too many times, people sell their souls to the devil for a dollar. Ain't nobody gonna stop buying Cristal anyway. Ain't no solidarity in hip hop. This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
I'm not looking to be an aplologist for Jay-Z, but he has a point here. As a business owner, isn't the idea of running a business is to get as much profit as possible for your goods and services? Here's this Frederic Rouzaud guy, whose company has probably made a huge fortune over the last few years with Cristal, thanks to the hip-hop world, yet he comes out and badmouths his own customers. (Granted he's French, and the French people seem to do this regularly.) Why would any businessman with half a brain do this to his own customers? That's like killing the golden goose. What is this guy going to do if Oprah suddenly decides to listen to the hip-hop community and encourages the rest of the world to boycott their products? He should have kept his mouth shut and just taken all that cash. | |
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violator said: At the end of the day, Jay-Z raps about Cristal, Bentleys, and jet-setting because the public wants it. Biggie said it best, "I know Versace don't make suits for motherfuckers like me, but that's the best shit out there and that's what people wanna hear. So that's what I'm gonna talk about".
When people decide that they're sick of listening to this shit and are willing to put their money in another direction, that's when you'll see change. It's about us, not them. If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be, lyrically, Talib Kweli. Truthfully, I wanna rhyme like Common Sense (But I did 5 Mil) I ain't been rhymin like Common since... | |
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Hey Jay-Z,
instead of boycotting Cristal, why don't you boycott the damaging images of half naked women and excessive materialism in the videos.... idiot | |
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theVelvetRoper said: StoneCrib said: This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
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Romera said: StoneCrib said: This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'. Psykosoul's my Org baby daddy but dude, you getting me worked up.
Fuck Jigga.  Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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 As long as we dont have to ban Alize. 
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HoneymoonXpress said: Hey Jay-Z,
instead of boycotting Cristal, why don't you boycott the damaging images of half naked women and excessive materialism in the videos.... idiot  | |
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But i think the point is that its a fucking drink, Im not excusing the statement, though you have to look at the whole picture rather than a soundbyte. But the fact that this was the FRONT PAGE NEWS today is sad, it shows what our morals as people are, it shows HOW dumb we as americans are, no wonder other countries look at us like the joke we are. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Romera said: HoneymoonXpress said: Hey Jay-Z,
instead of boycotting Cristal, why don't you boycott the damaging images of half naked women and excessive materialism in the videos.... idiot I gotta agree, though there are some SEXY ladies, JAYZ doesnt seem to mind the image of Cristal being poured all over some almost naked chick, or the constant "look what i got" image that he displays, that are the reason that we end up with SHIT like "pimp my ride" and "Cribs" and other great MTV shows where Parents pimp out their kids. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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StoneCrib said: This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Ottensen said: PREACH, CHILDREN! ....you all are on fire this morning, for real. 
[Edited 6/16/06 3:19am] Yes, yes, they are!! I'm going to see Dr. Cornell West and Tavis Smiley this evening at a Q&A and I'm sooooo going to bring this discussion up! Preach on, y'all!! Important Info Edit: Motorbabies, the discussion this evening for those interested is at Greater Grace Temple on 7 Mile just east of Telegraph. Doors open at 6. Discussion begins at 7. Hope to see you there! [Edited 6/16/06 8:13am] Oooh, I wish I'd seen this earlier! I would have checked them out! Anyway, I'm interested in their take on this--let us know! | |
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StoneCrib said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: talk! but you and i both know better...that shit ain't gonna happen, at least not in the near future. Yeah, sadly enough you're exactly right. All that's gonna happen is this... I used to down Cristal til my head got bent Now I sip Dom since that muthafucka tripped Damn shame. | |
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CalhounSq said:[quote] 728huey said: StoneCrib said:
It's like when Oprah had Liz Claiborne on years & years ago - Oprah was all happy wearing a Liz fit & Liz told her straight up (from what I remember), "I never intended for my clothes to be worn by Black people." So Oprah took the suit off :Actually, that's on OLD internet rumor. Oprah is on record saying that never happened. The same rumor was put on Hilfiger, too. (That reminds me of that OLD Eddie Murphy in the elevator rumor. . .O.K., off-topic. Back to the HELLUVA discussion. . .) | |
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NuPwr319 said: StoneCrib said: This should be a lesson for ALL black folk that try and buy and floss the name brand shit...Mr. Cristal just bitch-slapped you and woke you up. Don't be so fuckin' materialistic and flossy to where his comments piss you off. I'm glad old dude said he didn't want Hip Hop's business, now maybe some of these idiot muthafuckas will wake up and write some shit that doesn't talk about what they drink, how big their spinners are, and what kinda purse they're rockin'.
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