Dissonant voices rise slowly as monkeys start beating up each other::::



Composer Gyorgy Ligeti, who fled Hungary after the 1956 revolution and gained fame for his opera "Le Grand Macabre" and his work on the soundtrack for Stanley Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey," died today (June 12). He was 83.

Ligeti, celebrated as one of the world's leading 20th century musical pioneers, died in Vienna after a long illness, said Christian Krauscheid, a spokesperson for his publisher, Schott Music in Germany.

Ligeti was born in 1923 to Hungarian parents in the predominantly ethnic Hungarian part of Romania's Transylvania region.

He began studying music under Ferenc Farkas at the conservatory in Cluj, Romania, in 1941, and continued his studies in Budapest. But in 1943, he was arrested as a Jew and sentenced to forced labor for the rest of World War II. His father and brother later were murdered by the Nazis. Ligeti took Austrian citizenship after fleeing his ex-communist homeland.

In the late 1950s, Ligeti encamped in Vienna and began composing unconventional pieces such as "Apparitions," which deviated from conventional usages of melody and rhythm. Ligeti is perhaps best known for for "Macabre," which he wrote in 1978 but revised in the 1990s.

there was no score for Eyes Wide Shut...just a horribly repeated piano part? he did that?


oopsies, may he rest in peace....





but still.... that damn movie....worse film experience ever!!!

sosgemini said:

Well Technically.... those movies just submitted music they found appropriate
They just wanted jarring effect on the audience so I guess they selected those pieces. He seems to be a disturbed man probably spent too much time at the Piano .

One of the very few composers of the classical orchestral music tradition that I personally find listenable.

Sounds delicious.


tA

Tribal Disorder

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He did the music for the space travel sequence from 2001 Space Odyssey, that creepy choral screaming thing. Works perfect for that sequence

Trickology said:

I know a couple of people like that!
Ligeti was considered a 'genius', of sorts, in the contemporary composers realm, though. I agree with you.....definitely boring, albeit intriguing, pieces in Eyes Wide Shut. I would like to read Ligeti's take on where he was going with it.

cubic61052 said:

My take is composers like this want to be so different they reject everything in defiance to convention and almost subconsciously want the audience to be repulsed or outraged. The fascination of pleasing audience is not in their spirit. They just want a emotional reaction. Think about someone modenrn like Zorn who uses DuckCalls and putting his Saxophone underwater and japanese noisecore screaming as canvas to make Joe Rolling Stone run away and head for the hills.

I bet you Ligeti was like "How can I get someone to declare my work an outrage? What could I do with this piece? " And in that sense as a artist he succeeded in his goal. That's the trouble being an artist. Most people think that artists are out to please but some just want emotional outrage from conventional society. That's their muse to see that outrage.


A good example of someone who has flirted with this is "Lou Reed" when he released "Metal machine Music".

Agreed.....and they often get caught up in self-absorption and creating art for their own enjoyment, instead of anyone else's.....not 'ars gratia artis', but rather art for their own personal sake and to h*ll with anyone else.....IMHO

Trickology said:

Why does this sound so familiar?


tA

Tribal Disorder

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Yet, it can also prove to be their demise....

Like my Father used to say :" choose your battles".....

And, making wise decisions about your audience as well as the market you are after is also an important choice.

Ligeti had already made his 'mark', of sorts, so could afford to step out of the box for shock factor and outrage.....

IMHO...