sallysassalot said:

I liked it but can't handle both discs in one sitting. The chord progressions were too same-y. I think part of that is the fact that it was Lauryn and her guitar and we're all used to dynamic instrumentation or a band.

But she had some real fucken lyrics for Unplugged!

sallysassalot said:

I watched her "Unplugged" special and just winced. Over and over again.

say, did anyone hear Kanye West's "All Falls Down" where he directly sampled Lauryn's vocals off of Unplugged? I never heard that version. edit: I have now heard it. The released album had a guest singer.
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CinisterCee said:

They should've kept the CD's to just the songs and left the rambling for the DVD. Would all of the tracks fit onto 1 disc that way?

GangstaFam said:

Probably. I think I would like the rambling/preaching better on a DVD.

GangstaFam said:

yeah, they do.

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sallysassalot said:

I need to make myself one of those.

CinisterCee said:

i totally agree with the whole chord progression problem. its not necessarily boring but it can get monotonous if you're not in the mood for that particular thing.

they were obviously demos that she had yet to finish up. the execs wanted something out there and rightfully so. unfortunately for them they ended up with an unpolished singer and an unfinished body of work. as a listener, it worked for me. but i wasn't trying to make any cash off that shit, either.

Masterpiece for sure. but I guess its a matter of personal taste, but every track was awesome, no filler. she rapped, sang, produced and wrote on the record. "Doo Wop" that thing is a classic track, no other female r&b artist has made a complete album as this, no one.

twink69 said:

maybe that's why it's so revered..It's obviously great but not That
great..imo

I prefer some Badu.

Moonbeam said:

exactly exactly



and Voices really just cracks me up on so many levels

This "there for me, there for me, said you care for me, care for me..." part at the end of Ex-Factor moves me quite a bit.

Good, good album.

To me, it was a great album for it's time. But,it was also the begining of her demise. This CD although a success, also created an imagine that Lauryn could not live up to. In fact in order to get away from this imagine, she created that a totally different one.The one that did that god-awfull unplugged cd.She has issues that she has yet to deal with, even today. As far as I am concerned she is a prime example of what happens when an artist goes solo, is sucessful and is not ready for all of the responsibilty that goes along with that success.

What I love most about this CD and Lauryn at the time is that it bleeds pure honesty. Lauryn herself has stated (even in the lyrics) that she wasn't trying to be a superstar, wasn't trying to put together a classic album, and definitely wasn't trying to be a darling or sexkitten for the media. And when she saw herself headed that route she consciously flipped the script, giving up the fame and fortune that was never her goal in the first place. She truly made this album from her heart, not her mind or even talent. The hypocritical artists (which is most of them) would've just buried themselves in themselves.

Anyway, I've never liked the entire disc, but I still think it is one of the best CD of the 90s for sure.

One of the few truly outstanding albums of the 90s.Lauryn Hill could have saved hip-hop.Too bad she is no longer interested But throughout 1998/99,she kicked ass with this album.It's a classic,a masterpiece,and more.This is one of the few times when the Grammys got it right.They gave her 5 Grammys for this album and she deserved every one.Alicia Keyes ain't got nothing on Lauryn Hill.

DavidEye said:

You think that even though she won the Best Album category over somebody you hold in high esteem? I'm not going to mention her name so as not to unleash the fams.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Oh hell yeah Madonna's 'Ray Of Light' is excellent and they gave her several awards for it.But Lauryn deserved the Best Album award.I said it

DavidEye said:

Just checking. I didn't wanna mention any names.

Funny you mentioned Madonna.In 1998,I was so impressed with 'Ray Of Light' and 'Miseducation',but soooo disappointed with the crap that Prince released that year: 'New Power Soul'

I was like,"Prince...the women are leaving you in the dust!"

Hated it.....



As the little lady in the bottom right hand corner would say.....

"It was a mess then and it's still a mess!"

vainandy said:

In retrospect, she wasn't that old...

ThreadBare said:

Mother Jefferson or Lauryn Hill?

Lauryn Hill was the last mainstream female artist that didn't get on my nerves. She was honest, direct, had a great voice and sold records just by making good music and NOTHING ELSE! The album was never a masterpiece but it had one soul classic, X Factor, which I loved and a lot of other really good songs. Her lyrics actually held up on the page too which is RARE these days! By the way Jagged Little Pill is considered a masterpiece because IT IS!! The songwriting is just ballistic on that album. It totally captured a moment, and marked Alanis as one of the best lyricists of the 90s.. It's one of the few albums I can listen to all the way through and love every single track. There's not one lie or trace of hypocrisy anywhere on that record. Again, that's RARE these days!! The tunes are great too. It deserved to sell like it did.

Adisa said:

Can you name the "hypocritical" artists you're talking about?

Krytonite said:

prince and madonna come to mind immediately.

twink69 said:

From all reports from the lawsuit (that she lost) with the TRUE WRITERS of the Cd...her creative contributions were minimal...she put her name all over it to get full royalties when all she really did was the vocals... and very lame guitar work....no respect for her at all.

shorttrini said:

See previous post for the real reason for her demise

sallysassalot said:

What did Prince and Madonna do wrong?

squiddyren said:

All of those records went at LEAST platinum.

Well, I liked Baduism, that dropped the year before, better, so folk should praise that album for allowing an album like "Miseducation" to even get its due. Pay ya respects, people.

Now if we REALLY wanna take it there, L-Boogie owes her "Miseducation" blow-up to Meshell's "Plantation Lullabyes"...but I aint sayin' nuffin'...