VoicesCarry said:

VoicesCarry said:

just cuz you don't like it doesn't mean its not perfect. on the flip side of that, just cuz i do like it doesn't mean it is perfect. its like this...everyone says (insert typical beatles record here) is a masterpiece. i can enjoy (insert same beatles record here) but i fail to see how its a masterpiece. yet, it is. whether i think so or not. the same goes with miseducation.

VoicesCarry said:

(i forgot to laugh in the other post but i did think it was funny)

sallysassalot said:

Music is about personal taste....gee, di'nt know dat!

Cool, it's a masterpiece for you. Miseducation is nowhere near the Beatles' shit in terms of universal appreciation, though, and don't front like it is!
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VoicesCarry said:

i had to add that...if i didn't, you would have!

VoicesCarry said:

i think just like any music critic/magazine is going to put sgt pepper's on a list of the 100 best records, every music critic/magazine always puts miseducation in the same list.

it is universally excepted as a masterpiece.

sallysassalot said:

Clearly not on THIS thread

But seriously, that's because it's new. How many of those lists put COLDPLAY on there since it came out in the last 10 years????

VoicesCarry said:

org logic doesn't count.

sallysassalot said:

Music lists suck and you know it! There are always ten or fifteen current trendy "hot" records on there from the past decade or so that are clearly NOT classics. This has already lost its luster for a lot of people, and she is NOWHERE. She and Radiohead and Alanis are simply not among best records of all time, but they *are* critical darlings!

VoicesCarry said:

hold up...don't bring radiohead into this. the bends, ok computer, and kid a are fucking brilliant records. period. alanis...eh, its a good pop record.

regardless...miseducation of lauryn hill is a masterpiece.

sallysassalot said:

BUT IT MAKES ALL THOSE TOP 100 LISTS!

Lists and critics prove nothin'. You like it or you don't. Now Ryan Reynolds liked it enough to hit that.

I hate Radiohead, too - their shit will never mean anything to me.

VoicesCarry said:

well you just have poor musical taste!

what are the qualifications of "masterpiece"? what are the requirements? did alanis's debut capture a spirit of music at the time? i think it did, i think jagged little pill captured something about that time. surely that sets its place in music history. i don't think its a masterpiece because i don't dig it that much. i also don't dig sgt pepper's but...

VoicesCarry said:

sallysassalot said:

sallysassalot said:

Bingo!

Discussing the definition of "masterpiece" is about as useful as debating what "musical genius" is.

carlcranshaw said:

And a rose is still a rose

carlcranshaw said:

I that song! My favorite on that album.

VoicesCarry said:

do you believe in creationism or evolution? whichever one you do, it just is and that's that. masterpiece's are the same way. it doesn't matter if someone agree with it or not, it just IS.

sallysassalot said:

Yo, that be DEEP!

sallysassalot said:

both.

GangstaFam said:

Did this just turn into an ED & Dancelot thread?

VoicesCarry said:

a who?

GangstaFam said:

That's right, you don't lurk in the Politics & Religion cesspool Anyways, one's pro-evolution, one's pro-creationism. ENDLESS hilarity.

VoicesCarry said:

Everyone just needs to watch Contact and get over themselves, mkay?

VoicesCarry said:

VoicesCarry said:

Love that. haha

CinisterCee said:

yeah, it totally needs to be my new myspace pic!

Still love this album

I think it was as close to a perfect melding of solid production and natural talent as we've seen in pop music in a long time. I think both were equally deserving of the credit.

Without that sort of production, Lauryn's follow-up fizzled. The sad part is it seem's like it's going to be a kind of one-off masterpiece.

Personally, I prefer Dionne Farris' gem, "Wildseed, Wildflower." That to me was even better. She didn't get the same media attention or promotion, unfortunately. I prefer her voice, her writing and that album's more organic and versatile production.

ThreadBare said:

i also love the umplugged record. raw and real. not to mention incredibly personal and honest lyrics. i thought the 2nd disc was a lot more brave; she went out on a limb with that one and took a real beating for it.