lilgish said:

too many familiar locations in this post.

Anx said:

I'll say.

Remember I went for a walk to My Old School (Stuyvesant H.S.'s old location) while you guys were at The Beauty Bar.

There goes the neighborhood.


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Remember I went for a walk to My Old School (Stuyvesant H.S.'s

so what someone got they ass beat, more other shit going on in the world then someone catchin a bad one..

so what someone got they ass beat, more other shit going on in the world then someone catchin a bad one..

Finess said:

dig deeper. i know it ain't a crate of vinyl, but...

theAudience said:

lilgish said:

Yeah, I admit it...



...I even took the entrance exam while still off on the prior night's acid trip.


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Anx said:

you know what, people get thier ass beat every fuckin day, just because its someone who's gay its "major drama" most likely it wasnt something that had to do with him being gay.

Anx said:

you know what, people get thier ass beat every fuckin day, just because its someone who's gay its "major drama" most likely it wasnt something that had to do with him being gay.

Finess said:

ok, you know i love ya, but i'm calling bullshit on you.

when someone gets his ass beat for being gay in the EAST VILLAGE OF NEW YORK CITY, it's a sad commentary. when someone who's an established personality in the gay community gets his ass beat the week before pride week, yeah - people are going to talk about it. as well they should if it happened ANYtime. and when a human being gets his ass beat in front of onlookers who can't be bothered to do a damn thing about it, then yes - maybe there should be some dialog about the shit.

i'm not saying people should fixate on what happened to kevin aviance. but if people are able to talk through their fears as a result of this, then a messed-up incident has shown its silver lining.

sorry, 'ness. i understand it's cool to play the contrarian card, but you might wanna save it for when you can really use it.

Finess said:

ok, you know i love ya, but i'm calling bullshit on you.

when someone gets his ass beat for being gay in the EAST VILLAGE OF NEW YORK CITY, it's a sad commentary. when someone who's an established personality in the gay community gets his ass beat the week before pride week, yeah - people are going to talk about it. as well they should if it happened ANYtime. and when a human being gets his ass beat in front of onlookers who can't be bothered to do a damn thing about it, then yes - maybe there should be some dialog about the shit.

i'm not saying people should fixate on what happened to kevin aviance. but if people are able to talk through their fears as a result of this, then a messed-up incident has shown its silver lining.

sorry, 'ness. i understand it's cool to play the contrarian card, but you might wanna save it for when you can really use it.

Anx said:

i love you too anx, and you know how i feel about the community.. but what can be done, you know? you know how many timnes i had gotten into fights and shit just because im bi? i mean really now so i can feel the pain and know what its all about. but again people catch a bad one everyday,

Finess said:

and not talking about it accomplishes what?

i'm not saying people should focus on victimization every moment of their lives, but sometimes knowing people aren't alone in their fear makes the fear go away...or at least it gives the fear less power.
[Edited 6/12/06 15:17pm]

Anx said:

i know that anx,dont be mad at me all im sayingf that is there had to be something else besides the fact that Kevin's Gay. that's all im saying

Finess said:

even if kevin was throwing shade, that's still no reason. there may be a karmic lesson for him in all this, but that's not our business.

Finess said:

even if kevin was throwing shade, that's still no reason. there may be a karmic lesson for him in all this, but that's not our business.

Anx said:

NY1 News is reporting that friends of the attackers claim that Kevin made a pass at one of the teens which prompted the attack.

Like 'your soul was pulled out'

BY JESS WISLOSKI, BARBARA ROSS and NANCY DILLON

The world-famous drag queen beaten by a gang of homophobic thugs left a Manhattan hospital yesterday as community leaders renewed their calls for justice.

"You don't know how it feels until this happens to you. It feels like someone pulled your soul out," victim Kevin Aviance, 38, said through his lawyer.

The nightclub legend, whose songs have topped the Billboard dance charts, suffered a broken jaw and knee after four young males, yelling anti-gay slurs, beat him to the ground about 1:30 a.m. Saturday in the East Village.

Gerard Johnson, 16, and Gregory Archie, 18, both of Manhattan; Akino George, 20, of the Bronx, and Jarrell Sears, 20, of Newark, were arrested in the attack.

They face eight to 25 years in prison if convicted of first-degree assault as a hate crime. Johnson, who has a pending robbery case, and Sears, whose record includes a drug arrest, were .arraigned last night and held on $50,000 bond.

"What happened to Kevin over the weekend is just outrageous," said City Council Speaker Christine Quinn (D-Manhattan). "I hope the district attorney prosecutes those responsible to the fullest extent of the law, and that this crime is prosecuted fully as the hate crime that it was."

Quinn, who is gay, had equally strong words for the witnesses who allegedly did nothing as Aviance was dragged down the sidewalk.

"When New Yorkers see a victim of a crime, they have a responsibility to pick up the phone and call 911," Quinn said.

"We can't ever go back to the days of people just closing their windows when they hear someone in trouble."

Aviance, who clutched a bouquet of yellow roses and a framed photo of himself in full makeup as he was wheeled out of Beth Israel Medical Center, is expected to appear in court Thursday to identify his attackers.

Publicist Len Evans said Aviance's jaw will be wired shut for about 21/2 weeks, possibly through his appearance at this month's Gay Pride Parade.

"This is his month to shine and make money. He performs all through the month of June, and realistically the doctors don't think he can do it," Evans said.

"I don't think he realizes that when the wiring is taken off his jaw, he won't be able to move his mouth like he used to."

Originally published on June 13, 2006

http://www.nydailynews.co...9426c.html

Anx said:

NY1 News is reporting that friends of the attackers claim that Kevin made a pass at one of the teens which prompted the attack.

sextonseven said:

I knew this was coming....come on who's gonna believe that shit.... 1 guy makes a pass @ guy in that group....bullshit
they grasping for straws now.... the post is reporting that one of the attackers is stating that Kevin bumped into them and all they was looking for was an aplogy but instead Kevin gave them lip....the post is also reporting that Janet Jackson called to wish him well

you know what else bothers me about this?

all the stories i've read about this attack stressed that he was "dressed like a boy" when he was attacked.

what the hell difference should it make?

there's a pretty big transgender population in NYC...are they "asking" to be beaten up whenever they step out in public? there are all kinds of people in the city who dress and present themselves in all kinds of ways, be it because of gender expression, religion, sexuality, culture, personal asthetic, whatever.

being "dressed like a boy" should not have been any kind of qualifier in the reportage.

I've never heard of this entertainer but he must not be too big of a star to be alone like that.

I don't care if he was minding his own business or if he actually was flirting. They had no right to put their hands on him unless he got violent with them first.

If a gay man flirts with a man off the street, the man on the street has two options. He can either give up the dick or say three little words....

"I'm not interested".

I don't see men beating women's asses that flirt with them. Also, they sure as hell don't mind flirting with women that they know are lesbians. I don't see the lesbians beating their asses either.

I've never heard of this entertainer but he must not be too big of a star to be alone like that. I'd like to see them fuck with someone like Elton John. It would absolutely give me an orgasm to read the headlines the next
morning.....

"One of Elton John's bodyguard's shoe is being surgically removed from gay basher's ass".

The fact that this happend in NYC is very scary, Im from NYC and things like this usually happen in areas of Brooklyn and Queens which are very "racist" areas, But NYC, the Village, stuff like that never occurs, sad, but looking at their ages, its the 16-21 generation that is filled with "hate and racism".