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Reply #60 posted 06/13/06 9:23am

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BlaqueKnight said:

Labels get THOUSANDS of new CDs a WEEK submitted to them and you f**kers have the nerve to say "there's no good music out there"? If you want good music from new sources, stop waiting for record labels to feed you and start looking on places like MySpace.com and stop waiting for the labels to play someone's new video or the radio stations to play the newest payola artist. The nerve of you people! To assume that out of THOUSANDS of artists a week, none of them are any good? The artists are there, its just that people are waiting on Clear Channel to give them what they want. You ain't gonna get a good steak waiting in the line at McDonald's, people. Venture out beyond conventional means. You'd be surprised at what's out there.nod

I hear you,but the ironic thing about your post is that even on the internet, local gigs, etc.etc,you still have to wade through tons, and tons, and tons of bullsh!t to find what suits your tastebuds. And I'm an old-school lazy type of fellow who doesn't have time for all of that. fro
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #61 posted 06/13/06 9:24am

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BlaqueKnight said:

Labels get THOUSANDS of new CDs a WEEK submitted to them and you f**kers have the nerve to say "there's no good music out there"? If you want good music from new sources, stop waiting for record labels to feed you and start looking on places like MySpace.com and stop waiting for the labels to play someone's new video or the radio stations to play the newest payola artist. The nerve of you people! To assume that out of THOUSANDS of artists a week, none of them are any good? The artists are there, its just that people are waiting on Clear Channel to give them what they want. You ain't gonna get a good steak waiting in the line at McDonald's, people. Venture out beyond conventional means. You'd be surprised at what's out there.nod


I agree, but I think what these threads are addressing is mainstream music.
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Reply #62 posted 06/13/06 9:26am

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squiddyren said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Labels get THOUSANDS of new CDs a WEEK submitted to them and you f**kers have the nerve to say "there's no good music out there"? If you want good music from new sources, stop waiting for record labels to feed you and start looking on places like MySpace.com and stop waiting for the labels to play someone's new video or the radio stations to play the newest payola artist. The nerve of you people! To assume that out of THOUSANDS of artists a week, none of them are any good? The artists are there, its just that people are waiting on Clear Channel to give them what they want. You ain't gonna get a good steak waiting in the line at McDonald's, people. Venture out beyond conventional means. You'd be surprised at what's out there.nod


I agree, but I think what these threads are addressing is mainstream music.

Yeah, that too.
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Reply #63 posted 06/13/06 9:41am

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I AM talking about "mainstream" music. R&B, pop, rock. Artists that could easily be on the top 40 if they had 5 or 10 million dollars at their disposal. Word-of-mouth has always been the best form of promotion. Recommendations from others, links from other artists' pages, message boards, etc; that narrows down your search.
People keep waiting for Clear Channel to "straighten up"
Its NEVER going to happen. The sooner you folks realize this, the closer you will get to finding music you like. Its all out there but Clear Channel is NEVER going to give it to you because it does not profit them to do so. They can just keep hyping shit artists and getting poeple to rush out and get their CDs the first week of it's release only for you to realize that they SUCK. Too late. They've got your money and you go right back to them as if nothing has happened. You deserve to get screwed. With all of the access people have today, there's no reason you shouldn't know exactly what you are buying. They bank people being too lazy to look on their own. Don't try to blame it on the artists, though. That's B.S. If you don't care enough to devote the time to searching for it then its on YOU. Don't have time? Find a music message board that specializes in what you like and go there and ASK. People love to share shit like that. Miss me with that "no good artists" b.s. Clear Channel ain't gonna give 'em to ya.
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Reply #64 posted 06/13/06 10:40am

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ladygirl99 said:

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lol For me it started in the late 90's....around 97 I like a lot of 90's stuff.....some of it for nostalgic reasons.

true and after 1999 i just stop tuning out radio and the music stations for some good music.


it was the invasion of the boybands around that time disbelief

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Reply #65 posted 06/13/06 10:44am

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Christopher said:

AnckSuNamun said:

I really liked the alternative/grunge part of the 90's. smile


sad



'uh bad boy...we wont stop'


lol ok...I did used to like Mo Money Mo Problems.
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Reply #66 posted 06/13/06 10:54am

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minneapolisgenius said:

AnckSuNamun said:




tease

You know, you have a point. lol I actually remember exactly where I was when I first heard them and also when I first heard Britney Spears "Baby One More Time". whofarted


I actually saw the Spice Girls movie boxed worst movie ever. Oh god...I remember boys in my class going crazy over Britney when that video came out. I didn't get it. lol
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Reply #67 posted 06/13/06 10:58am

justhemusic

http://www.yousendit.com/...2D01224581

while its true, a lot of stuff out there is lame, predictable, uninspired, uncreative....that does NOT apply to the music on the link above. THIS stuff HERE in the link above is the REAL DEAL, and i get as moved by it as i did by anything i grew up on, and i grew up with some classic stuff (i guess i'm a bit older than a lot of posters here, I grew up mainly on a diet of 70s Soul, Rock, Funk as well as 80's stuff)

give the music on the above link a listen and see if that doesn't give you hope for the future of great music...
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Reply #68 posted 06/13/06 11:13am

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Adisa said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Labels get THOUSANDS of new CDs a WEEK submitted to them and you f**kers have the nerve to say "there's no good music out there"? If you want good music from new sources, stop waiting for record labels to feed you and start looking on places like MySpace.com and stop waiting for the labels to play someone's new video or the radio stations to play the newest payola artist. The nerve of you people! To assume that out of THOUSANDS of artists a week, none of them are any good? The artists are there, its just that people are waiting on Clear Channel to give them what they want. You ain't gonna get a good steak waiting in the line at McDonald's, people. Venture out beyond conventional means. You'd be surprised at what's out there.nod

I hear you,but the ironic thing about your post is that even on the internet, local gigs, etc.etc,you still have to wade through tons, and tons, and tons of bullsh!t to find what suits your tastebuds. And I'm an old-school lazy type of fellow who doesn't have time for all of that. fro

Me too. Plus, I want to see bands play LIVE. I want to see local bands, and up and coming bands doing small tours and take it from there. I really couldn't care what someone's new video is like because that's rarely where I find something I like. shrug

And even if I hear something a bit different on the radio, and it intrigues me, it still hardly ever convinces my to buy their album. Maybe I'll check out their website to see when and where they'll be touring, and if I can make one of their shows, I'll try and go. If I see an artist live, and they really have something (talent, innovation, good energy, great stage presence, etc.) THEN I'm sold. I'll then buy their CD at the venue itself or get it later.

My main problem though is that I never have anyone who ever wants to go to the shows I do. Hardly ever. And yeah, people can say "Just go alone then", but as a woman, going to shows alone is a bit unsettling. confused
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Reply #69 posted 06/13/06 11:23am

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minneapolisgenius said:


Me too. Plus, I want to see bands play LIVE. I want to see local bands, and up and coming bands doing small tours and take it from there. I really couldn't care what someone's new video is like because that's rarely where I find something I like. shrug

And even if I hear something a bit different on the radio, and it intrigues me, it still hardly ever convinces my to buy their album. Maybe I'll check out their website to see when and where they'll be touring, and if I can make one of their shows, I'll try and go. If I see an artist live, and they really have something (talent, innovation, good energy, great stage presence, etc.) THEN I'm sold. I'll then buy their CD at the venue itself or get it later.

My main problem though is that I never have anyone who ever wants to go to the shows I do. Hardly ever. And yeah, people can say "Just go alone then", but as a woman, going to shows alone is a bit unsettling. confused


I love going to live shows (as you probably already know). I scan the Village Voice club listings every week for artists I like playing here in NYC. In the past, I used to miss a few here and there because not every venue is listed, but thanks to myspace.com, all the small bands that I'm friends with let me know ahead of time when they are touring. I almost always go to shows alone because like you, it's just too difficult finding friends that like all the bands that I do. The only time I actually drag people with me is when the venue has assigned seating. Standing alone at a show is fine, but sitting alone makes me feel weird--like going to the movies alone.
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Reply #70 posted 06/13/06 11:28am

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sextonseven said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Me too. Plus, I want to see bands play LIVE. I want to see local bands, and up and coming bands doing small tours and take it from there. I really couldn't care what someone's new video is like because that's rarely where I find something I like. shrug

And even if I hear something a bit different on the radio, and it intrigues me, it still hardly ever convinces my to buy their album. Maybe I'll check out their website to see when and where they'll be touring, and if I can make one of their shows, I'll try and go. If I see an artist live, and they really have something (talent, innovation, good energy, great stage presence, etc.) THEN I'm sold. I'll then buy their CD at the venue itself or get it later.

My main problem though is that I never have anyone who ever wants to go to the shows I do. Hardly ever. And yeah, people can say "Just go alone then", but as a woman, going to shows alone is a bit unsettling. confused


I love going to live shows (as you probably already know). I scan the Village Voice club listings every week for artists I like playing here in NYC. In the past, I used to miss a few here and there because not every venue is listed, but thanks to myspace.com, all the small bands that I'm friends with let me know ahead of time when they are touring. I almost always go to shows alone because like you, it's just too difficult finding friends that like all the bands that I do. The only time I actually drag people with me is when the venue has assigned seating. Standing alone at a show is fine, but sitting alone makes me feel weird--like going to the movies alone.

Well, I'll definitely be keeping in touch about meeting up. nod And yeah, like I said, it's different for a woman sometimes. It just is. I really do get harassed if I'm seen alone in a club or bar. It's sort of scary actually.
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Reply #71 posted 06/13/06 11:35am

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minneapolisgenius said:

sextonseven said:



I love going to live shows (as you probably already know). I scan the Village Voice club listings every week for artists I like playing here in NYC. In the past, I used to miss a few here and there because not every venue is listed, but thanks to myspace.com, all the small bands that I'm friends with let me know ahead of time when they are touring. I almost always go to shows alone because like you, it's just too difficult finding friends that like all the bands that I do. The only time I actually drag people with me is when the venue has assigned seating. Standing alone at a show is fine, but sitting alone makes me feel weird--like going to the movies alone.

Well, I'll definitely be keeping in touch about meeting up. nod And yeah, like I said, it's different for a woman sometimes. It just is. I really do get harassed if I'm seen alone in a club or bar. It's sort of scary actually.


Very cool. Hopefully we'll find time to meet. As a guy I know it's different for me. The only time I had reservations about going to a show was when Type O Negative played at Lamours in Brooklyn. Lamours is a little too close to Bensonhurst and people of color tend to stay out of that neighborhood.
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Reply #72 posted 06/13/06 11:37am

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sextonseven said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Well, I'll definitely be keeping in touch about meeting up. nod And yeah, like I said, it's different for a woman sometimes. It just is. I really do get harassed if I'm seen alone in a club or bar. It's sort of scary actually.


Very cool. Hopefully we'll find time to meet. As a guy I know it's different for me. The only time I had reservations about going to a show was when Type O Negative played at Lamours in Brooklyn. Lamours is a little too close to Bensonhurst and people of color tend to stay out of that neighborhood.

Did you have any problems at the show?
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Reply #73 posted 06/13/06 11:39am

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1985

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Reply #74 posted 06/13/06 11:41am

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minneapolisgenius said:

sextonseven said:



Very cool. Hopefully we'll find time to meet. As a guy I know it's different for me. The only time I had reservations about going to a show was when Type O Negative played at Lamours in Brooklyn. Lamours is a little too close to Bensonhurst and people of color tend to stay out of that neighborhood.

Did you have any problems at the show?


I didn't go. I'd seen them already a few times in Manhattan so I didn't think it was worth the risk to see them again. neutral
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Reply #75 posted 06/13/06 11:45am

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sextonseven said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Did you have any problems at the show?


I didn't go. I'd seen them already a few times in Manhattan so I didn't think it was worth the risk to see them again. neutral

Trust your instincts I guess. nod And I can't tell you how many shows I've missed because I would have had to go alone. sad

For example, I totally wanted to go see David Lee Roth two summers ago at a cheesy casino in Minnesota. No one would go. lol Because you know how dangerous those casinos can be. nod All those gambling addicts and all.
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Reply #76 posted 06/13/06 11:52am

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minneapolisgenius said:

sextonseven said:



I didn't go. I'd seen them already a few times in Manhattan so I didn't think it was worth the risk to see them again. neutral

Trust your instincts I guess. nod And I can't tell you how many shows I've missed because I would have had to go alone. sad

For example, I totally wanted to go see David Lee Roth two summers ago at a cheesy casino in Minnesota. No one would go. lol Because you know how dangerous those casinos can be. nod All those gambling addicts and all.


He's playing here in NYC on July 13th. Good old Village Voice.
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Reply #77 posted 06/13/06 12:09pm

Illustrator

It happened again.
Yesterday, the cops came knockin' on my door, sayin' that they've been gettin' complaints on how shitty the music comin' from my house was.
So, this time I told 'em,
I says,
"Well, then, you gentlemen (actually one was a female, but I figgered that 'gentlemen' would put more zing into my zinger) must feel right at home, cuz from what I hear, pigs love shit." And as I said it, I was doing that twirly head thing....
They responded by beating my ass down with their billy clubs & then draggin'
my half conscious carcass to the slammer for the night.

I just got back.

And I don't regret it a single bit.

It's through my taste in music that I 'spress myself, dammit.
If I couldn't do that, the terrorists win, don't they?

My shitty music is my middle finger to the world, maann.

Now...
if y'all will excuse me,
I'm gonna have me some Afternoon Delight,
followed by the Rapping Duke
& then Xtrina's Beautiful.
I'm covering every decade baby.
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Reply #78 posted 06/13/06 12:11pm

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minneapolisgenius said:
Adisa said:
BlaqueKnight said:
Labels get THOUSANDS of new CDs a WEEK submitted to them and you f**kers have the nerve to say "there's no good music out there"? If you want good music from new sources, stop waiting for record labels to feed you and start looking on places like MySpace.com and stop waiting for the labels to play someone's new video or the radio stations to play the newest payola artist. The nerve of you people! To assume that out of THOUSANDS of artists a week, none of them are any good? The artists are there, its just that people are waiting on Clear Channel to give them what they want. You ain't gonna get a good steak waiting in the line at McDonald's, people. Venture out beyond conventional means. You'd be surprised at what's out there.nod


I hear you,but the ironic thing about your post is that even on the internet, local gigs, etc.etc,you still have to wade through tons, and tons, and tons of bullsh!t to find what suits your tastebuds. And I'm an old-school lazy type of fellow who doesn't have time for all of that. fro


Me too. Plus, I want to see bands play LIVE. I want to see local bands, and up and coming bands doing small tours and take it from there. I really couldn't care what someone's new video is like because that's rarely where I find something I like. shrug

And even if I hear something a bit different on the radio, and it intrigues me, it still hardly ever convinces my to buy their album. Maybe I'll check out their website to see when and where they'll be touring, and if I can make one of their shows, I'll try and go. If I see an artist live, and they really have something (talent, innovation, good energy, great stage presence, etc.) THEN I'm sold. I'll then buy their CD at the venue itself or get it later.

My main problem though is that I never have anyone who ever wants to go to the shows I do. Hardly ever. And yeah, people can say "Just go alone then", but as a woman, going to shows alone is a bit unsettling. :confused:


I think touring is the one thing that separates today's mainstream artists from yesterday's artists. Even though MTV and BET helped push a lot of new artists in the 80's and 90's, if you wanted to have any type of integrity and longevity, you needed to tour extensively. I, unfortunately, never got to see Nirvana live, but apparently before they blew up into a grunge music phenomenon, they played a gig in Chicago in 1990 at Metro as an opening act for some group I don't even remember the name of, and there were three or four people in the audience watching them...total. In fairness, I believe there was a snowstorm that night.

At any rate, Fall Out Boy was touring in Chicago and around the midwest wherever they could get gigs for the last four years before they became an "overnight sensation" last year. I believe My Chemical Romance did the same thing on the west coast. There are a few hip hop groups who play clubs, but for most of them, they make mixtapes in order to get exposure. I can't remember the last time I've seen an up-and-coming R&B act play some small club other than one of the neo-soul acts. Maybe if Christina Milian had done this, her label wouldn't have dropped her so quickly.

BlaqueKnight, I don't know if you have heard of Seth Godin or read any of his books about marketing, but your comments seem to mirror his ideas exactly! Mr. Godin talks about the upcoming death of mass marketing; i.e., he states that mass marketing has run its course because it's no longer cost effective to mass market products that most people don't want or need in order to reach the small group of people who do want what is being marketed. For example, why do beer companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars marketing beer on television during sports games? First, a lot of people don't watch sports on TV, and among those who do, many of them (children, devout Mormons or Muslims, recovering alcoholics, wine connissoeurs) can't or won't drink beer. Second, when you look at the ads for most beer commerecials, they feature young, sexy, mostly scantily clad females pushing beer to young men, so right there by default they exclude older men and women who are offended by their emphasis on cheesecake babes. Likewise, why does IBM spend millions of dollars on television ads during the same games to push business software solutions? The only people who would be interested in these ads are business owners and IT specialists, so it wouild make much more sense to have a marketing strategy that caters just to those people.

But I'm getting off topic. Anyway, like you said, it's much more effective for a young band these days to put their music on MySpace and buid a following around that. They can get their most rabid fans to hear them and these fans will get more friends to listen to them until they've built a huge base of fans. This is a lot better for them instead of hoping that Clear Channel will add their hit song to their playlists when they are competing against Kelly Clarkson, Mariah Carey and 50 Cent.


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Reply #79 posted 06/13/06 1:03pm

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I've never read Godin's book and am unfamiliar with him however nothing I post on here is a big secret, else I wouldn't be posting it. People just have to learn to think for themselves, that's all. I discover new artists all the time.
People just don't get it. There are only THREE MAJOR LABELS LEFT. These guys have been buying each other out left and right. When that happens, labels become far more corporate and lean more towards bottom line figures. They aren't trying to develop new artists for long term sales, they use new artists to increase capital so they can buy each other out. They want quick cash. They really only care about ONE demographic: 14-24 year old girls/women. Guys buy the same sh*t. Punkers buy punk, rap lovers buy rap, etc. The women's demographic is the largest and the only one that fluctuates frequently, therefore its the only demographic that the majors are interested in. Anyone past 26 can hang it up. Buy new crap or buy "90s hits" type discs. They know people would buy new "good" music if it were presented to them but THEY DON'T CARE. Development costs money and the execs are richer now than they have ever been in music history. Never have so many profited so much from artists before. They have a plan and they're sticking to it because its as close to risk-free as they can get. Attorneys & accountants run the music business and they want to see NUMBERS so they can predict the next set of sales for the quarter.
The moral of this story is: Want new music? Find it. All the tools necessary are right in front of you.
Concerts are another game. I'll rant later on that. biggrin
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Reply #80 posted 06/13/06 1:42pm

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minneapolisgenius said:


Ok then. could somebody PLEASE tell me who or what "Gnarls Barkley" is?! confuse I keep hearing/reading this word or name and what is it?

Is it a band? A brand of hard liquor? A person? A medical condition? hmmm

A band with two members, Cee-Lo and Danger Mouse. They got a hit single called Crazy and everyone over here at the .org seem to love them.



I saw them for the first time last night on Leno. I must admit...I like them! They're different! I like different! thumbs up!
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Reply #81 posted 06/13/06 1:49pm

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Yes it has gotten really bad...I've been discovering alot of older artists and that keeps me sane! Ha biggrin . But on the good side there is someone somewhere making awseome new music that is actually good and creative...hopefuly they will be able to get their music heard so mainstream music won't suck any more. Their are talented musicians out there making good music...they just are not on radio or on MTV.

Thanx for that, Kyrs.
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Reply #82 posted 06/13/06 1:57pm

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Labels get THOUSANDS of new CDs a WEEK submitted to them and you f**kers have the nerve to say "there's no good music out there"? If you want good music from new sources, stop waiting for record labels to feed you and start looking on places like MySpace.com and stop waiting for the labels to play someone's new video or the radio stations to play the newest payola artist. The nerve of you people! To assume that out of THOUSANDS of artists a week, none of them are any good? The artists are there, its just that people are waiting on Clear Channel to give them what they want. You ain't gonna get a good steak waiting in the line at McDonald's, people. Venture out beyond conventional means. You'd be surprised at what's out there.nod

Damn! My ni#%a Blaque don't be fucking around. On point as usual, player. Tell it like it is. That's the line of the year right there though; "You ain't gonna get no steak waiting in line at McDonalds!".
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Reply #83 posted 06/13/06 2:00pm

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sextonseven said:



I love going to live shows (as you probably already know). I scan the Village Voice club listings every week for artists I like playing here in NYC. In the past, I used to miss a few here and there because not every venue is listed, but thanks to myspace.com, all the small bands that I'm friends with let me know ahead of time when they are touring. I almost always go to shows alone because like you, it's just too difficult finding friends that like all the bands that I do. The only time I actually drag people with me is when the venue has assigned seating. Standing alone at a show is fine, but sitting alone makes me feel weird--like going to the movies alone.

Well, I'll definitely be keeping in touch about meeting up. nod And yeah, like I said, it's different for a woman sometimes. It just is. I really do get harassed if I'm seen alone in a club or bar. It's sort of scary actually.

That's why u need a cool brother on your arm when u go to joints like that. (coughs)
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Reply #84 posted 06/13/06 2:11pm

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Don't even trip ya'll. Shit is about to open up,...nah,..fuck that. Shit IS opening up in a way that has not been seen in some years now. All this sorry ass shit HAD to happen to pave way for the explosion. It's been written. Ya'll can mark my words by it. Save this post and this thread in your laptop. Whatever, date this shit if u want to and then u can come back to it when it jumps off and go "Damn. That litlle motherfucker was right after all." It's always been that way and this time is no different. It's just going to seem more extreme this time around.
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Reply #85 posted 06/13/06 2:16pm

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"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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Reply #86 posted 06/13/06 2:43pm

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I didn't read every post, but at a quick glance over I agree with the 'you aint gonna get no steak waitin in line at Mcdonalds' idea.

perhaps if the title of this thread was...

"big-label/mass-popular music is going down hill'

or perhaps...

"why does the general mass population continue to digest/support the uninspired music that the big music machines keep shoving down their throats?"

...

there is still great music being made out there. (as this link demonstrates)...


http://www.yousendit.com/...2D01224581




Its a big workd after all...but made littler by the internet...and if you do your own digging im sure you'll find something out there that satisfies excites and inspires you till your musical heart's content. but don't wait for the masses to show it to you...start seeking it out yourself...and when you find it support it with everything you've got so that the deserving artist of choice can continue to make the stuff that inspired you so much...
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Reply #87 posted 06/13/06 2:58pm

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I've never read Godin's book and am unfamiliar with him however nothing I post on here is a big secret, else I wouldn't be posting it. People just have to learn to think for themselves, that's all. I discover new artists all the time.
People just don't get it. There are only THREE MAJOR LABELS LEFT. These guys have been buying each other out left and right. When that happens, labels become far more corporate and lean more towards bottom line figures. They aren't trying to develop new artists for long term sales, they use new artists to increase capital so they can buy each other out. They want quick cash. They really only care about ONE demographic: 14-24 year old girls/women. Guys buy the same sh*t. Punkers buy punk, rap lovers buy rap, etc. The women's demographic is the largest and the only one that fluctuates frequently, therefore its the only demographic that the majors are interested in. Anyone past 26 can hang it up. Buy new crap or buy "90s hits" type discs. They know people would buy new "good" music if it were presented to them but THEY DON'T CARE. Development costs money and the execs are richer now than they have ever been in music history. Never have so many profited so much from artists before. They have a plan and they're sticking to it because its as close to risk-free as they can get. Attorneys & accountants run the music business and they want to see NUMBERS so they can predict the next set of sales for the quarter.
The moral of this story is: Want new music? Find it. All the tools necessary are right in front of you.
Concerts are another game. I'll rant later on that. biggrin



Godin's interesting..

"When everyone buys their music online (and if they buy it anywhere, isn't that where they'll buy it?) what purpose do traditional record labels serve?

Sure, that's an overstatement. There will always be hits. We'll always buy Britney Spears or whoever takes her place. But as the marketplace continues to nichify (is that a word?), as radio stations continue to have less influence, as Morpheus makes it easy to preview whatever you like--we can become our own editors. If the new Martha's Trouble CD sounds just as good as the well-produced Shawn Colvin album you love, why isn't this a better process?"

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Reply #88 posted 06/13/06 3:05pm

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Well, since I'm not sensing any love on this one,
guess I'll just have to start my own 'Shitty Music Appreciation' thread.

Fuck all y'all one-sided thinkin' bastitches.
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Reply #89 posted 06/13/06 3:34pm

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vainandy said:

1984 was the last great year. 1985 was when everything first started going downhill. There were still a few good songs in the late 1980s but not nearly as many as before. By the 1990s, everything was absolutely horrible unless you got into some underground house. Shit hop had completely taken over. Music today doesn't sound any different than it did in around 1993 or 1994.



So true! It was around the mid-80s when drum machines and synthesizers began to take over.Rap also became popular around this time.Suddenly,funk bands became obsolete.I hated this time! Honestly,I can't even listen to alot of late-80s music.Much of it sounds cold,formulaic and programmed....as if it was created by robots.


I love drum machines and synthesizers but only the way Prince used to use them earlier in his career. His drum machines beat hard and had those nice cold mechanical handclaps that echoed. Most of the people in the late 1980s seemed to have drum machines that didn't beat quite as hard. There were some great sounding synthy groups like Madame X, The Jets, Klymaxx, Ready For The World, etc. but there were also some bullshit groups like Calloway, Johnny Kemp, etc. that was uptempo but the drum machines did not sound funky whatsoever.

It seemed like most of the uptempo stuff during this era was by rap groups. I was very much into people like The Egyptian Lover, LA Dream Team, Freestyle & Pretty Tony, and Run DMC during this time. The funk groups seemed to be dying off and more and more people were coming out that had whole albums either adult contemporary ballads or pop crossover uptempo songs. I wonder who influenced them to do that. lol Hell, even the few funk groups left like Cameo were doing weaker stuff like "Candy".

When the early 1990s arrived, I had almost totally abandoned R&B stations and became strictly into house music like Black Box, The 49ers, Cee Cee Peniston, Crystal Waters, etc. Some pop stations were jamming this groups but most of the R&B stations had gone the other route....new jack (which I could tolerate). It seems like when house went back underground and new jack disappeared, that was it. The only thing that remained was midtempo shit hop bullshit.
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