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Reply #120 posted 06/05/06 7:12am

Anx

NDRU said:

Or maybe (since it's going to be top 50) #1 should be given 50 points and #25 should be given 26.

That way one vote for Britney Spears at #1 (1 x 50 = 50) would be outweighed by three votes for Marvin Gaye at #25 (3 x 26 = 78) rather than Britney #1 (1 x 25 = 25) and Marvin #25 (3 x 1 = 3).

Any math majors here? I don't want anyone to think the results are unfair. Biased, maybe, but not unfair.



i can't be expected to read all of that. anything more complicated than "contains 12 individually wrapped snack cakes" is too much math for me.
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Reply #121 posted 06/05/06 7:26am

Omadon

1. abbey road - beatles
2. ok computer - radiohead
3. alice - tom waits
4. pet sounds - beach boys
5. hot 5s and 7s - louis armstrong etc.
6. parade - prince
7. ziggy stardust - david bowie
8. pink moon - nick drake
9. boys don't cry - cure
10. electric ladyland - hendrix
11. small change - tom waits
12. grace - jeff buckley
13 controversy - prince
14. off the wall - michael jackson
15. abbatoir blues / lyre of orpheus - nick cave
16. the times they are a-changin' - bob dylan
17. the sophtware slump - grandaddy
18. the blue notebooks - max richter
19. the queen is dead - the smiths
20. deb - souad massi
21. and she closed her eyes - stina nordenstam
22. all things must pass - george harrison
23. turnstiles - billy joel
24. arular - M.I.A.
25. things fall apart - the roots
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Reply #122 posted 06/05/06 7:28am

Omadon

NDRU said:

Or maybe (since it's going to be top 50) #1 should be given 50 points and #25 should be given 26.

That way one vote for Britney Spears at #1 (1 x 50 = 50) would be outweighed by three votes for Marvin Gaye at #25 (3 x 26 = 78) rather than Britney #1 (1 x 25 = 25) and Marvin #25 (3 x 1 = 3).

Any math majors here? I don't want anyone to think the results are unfair. Biased, maybe, but not unfair.


that sounds v sensible. nod
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Reply #123 posted 06/05/06 10:16am

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NDRU said:

Or maybe (since it's going to be top 50) #1 should be given 50 points and #25 should be given 26.

That way one vote for Britney Spears at #1 (1 x 50 = 50) would be outweighed by three votes for Marvin Gaye at #25 (3 x 26 = 78) rather than Britney #1 (1 x 25 = 25) and Marvin #25 (3 x 1 = 3).

Any math majors here? I don't want anyone to think the results are unfair. Biased, maybe, but not unfair.


That's sorta how the Village Voice counts votes for their annual Pazz & Jop poll.
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Reply #124 posted 06/05/06 10:17am

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Anx said:

CynicKill said:



"Live Through This" by HOLE



on my list


Mine too.
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Reply #125 posted 06/05/06 10:19am

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Anx said:

jimi's in my list...please don't turn my head to lasagna! lol

i nearly included "axis: bold as love" instead of "are you experienced?", but "manic depression" and "third stone from the sun" are just way too incredible, even though i have a soft spot for "axis".



No worries. mg loves to be disciplined. lol

I limited my choices to 1 per artist. And you know me, I love all his studio releases.
Although AYE? is one of the most amazing musical debuts in history, I went with what was his creative zenith in the studio.


tA

peace


I dunno, I still think there should be no limits. If you think a second Jimi album is better than half the records on your list, why leave it out? Why punish the man for being so great?
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Reply #126 posted 06/05/06 10:22am

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minneapolisgenius said:

NDRU said:



Your idiocyncracies only add to your beauty!
[Edited 6/4/06 20:10pm]

lol redface

What, no one else likes that album? hmmm


Blender magazine said it's one of his worst. http://www.blender.com/gu...aspx?id=56

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Reply #127 posted 06/05/06 10:24am

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minneapolisgenius said:

NDRU said:



Your idiocyncracies only add to your beauty!
[Edited 6/4/06 20:10pm]

lol redface

What, no one else likes that album? hmmm


No, I love it too, but I think you're the only one to pick it(except for the guy who had 1-24 all Prince!)
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Reply #128 posted 06/05/06 10:25am

Anx

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I dunno, I still think there should be no limits. If you think a second Jimi album is better than half the records on your list, why leave it out? Why punish the man for being so great?


i think individual taste is a little more complex than that. for me it is, anyway. i think axis is a great album, but there are other albums on my list that MEAN more to me (even if they may be less "brilliant"), so buh bye axis. that's just how MY mind works, anyway...
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Reply #129 posted 06/05/06 10:25am

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NDRU said:

minneapolisgenius said:


lol redface

What, no one else likes that album? hmmm


No, I love it too, but I think you're the only one to pick it(except for the guy who had 1-24 all Prince!)


I know I said no limits, but that guy's ballot should be thrown away. razz
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Reply #130 posted 06/05/06 10:29am

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minneapolisgenius said:

NDRU said:

Or maybe (since it's going to be top 50) #1 should be given 50 points and #25 should be given 26.

That way one vote for Britney Spears at #1 (1 x 50 = 50) would be outweighed by three votes for Marvin Gaye at #25 (3 x 26 = 78) rather than Britney #1 (1 x 25 = 25) and Marvin #25 (3 x 1 = 3).

Any math majors here? I don't want anyone to think the results are unfair. Biased, maybe, but not unfair.



too many numbers in this post


We could always graph the cosine of #25, therefore:

(25a + 1b) x 3(50c + 26d)=prince
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Reply #131 posted 06/05/06 10:33am

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Anx said:

sextonseven said:



I dunno, I still think there should be no limits. If you think a second Jimi album is better than half the records on your list, why leave it out? Why punish the man for being so great?


i think individual taste is a little more complex than that. for me it is, anyway. i think axis is a great album, but there are other albums on my list that MEAN more to me (even if they may be less "brilliant"), so buh bye axis. that's just how MY mind works, anyway...


I totally get you. I probably worded that response wrong. If you honestly think that I believe that Bif Naked's 'I Bificus' is a better album that 'Sgt. Pepper's', then I'm really no more credible than the guy who filled his entire list with Prince records. My list is definitely my favorite records that I listened to and connected with the most as opposed to ones I think were groundbreaking and flawless. That would be very boring--all Beatles, Hendrix some Clash, Nirvana... bored
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Reply #132 posted 06/05/06 10:36am

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Anx said:

sextonseven said:



I dunno, I still think there should be no limits. If you think a second Jimi album is better than half the records on your list, why leave it out? Why punish the man for being so great?


i think individual taste is a little more complex than that. for me it is, anyway. i think axis is a great album, but there are other albums on my list that MEAN more to me (even if they may be less "brilliant"), so buh bye axis. that's just how MY mind works, anyway...


I never really specified whether it should be your choices for the "greatest" albums or your "favorite." Those two lists should overlap a bunch anyway. I think my favorites are pretty great.

But I did leave Miles & John Coltrane off. They'd be in my top 50 favorite, but higher on my choices for greatest.
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Reply #133 posted 06/05/06 10:37am

Anx

NDRU said:

Anx said:



i think individual taste is a little more complex than that. for me it is, anyway. i think axis is a great album, but there are other albums on my list that MEAN more to me (even if they may be less "brilliant"), so buh bye axis. that's just how MY mind works, anyway...


I never really specified whether it should be your choices for the "greatest" albums or your "favorite." Those two lists should overlap a bunch anyway. I think my favorites are pretty great.

But I did leave Miles & John Coltrane off. They'd be in my top 50 favorite, but higher on my choices for greatest.


i can only list favorites. a list of the "greatest" is beyond my reach; i think it's beyond everyone's reach, really.
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Reply #134 posted 06/05/06 10:39am

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NDRU said:

minneapolisgenius said:




too many numbers in this post


We could always graph the cosine of #25, therefore:

(25a + 1b) x 3(50c + 26d)=prince

"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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Reply #135 posted 06/05/06 10:41am

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1. The rainbow Children
2. Controversy
3. One nite alone - piano and voice
4. Lovesexy
5. Sign O the times
6. Parade
7. Purple rain
8. Prince
9. 3121
10. Dirty mind
11. Around the world in a day
12. 1999
13. Batman
14. Gold Experience
15. Diamonds and pearls
16. Love symbol
17. New power soul
18. Come
19. For U
20. Musicology
21. Rave
22. The black album
23. The truth
24. N.E.W.S
25. Voodoo


Take this list, add some P-Funk, Bootsy, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, and Ohio Players and we are talking.
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Reply #136 posted 06/05/06 10:42am

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sextonseven said:

minneapolisgenius said:


lol redface

What, no one else likes that album? hmmm


Blender magazine said it's one of his worst. http://www.blender.com/gu...aspx?id=56

razz


Me ---> <---- Blender
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Reply #137 posted 06/05/06 10:50am

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Anx said:

NDRU said:



I never really specified whether it should be your choices for the "greatest" albums or your "favorite." Those two lists should overlap a bunch anyway. I think my favorites are pretty great.

But I did leave Miles & John Coltrane off. They'd be in my top 50 favorite, but higher on my choices for greatest.


i can only list favorites. a list of the "greatest" is beyond my reach; i think it's beyond everyone's reach, really.


I agree, and it's more honest to just pick your favorites.

Only The Audience picked the greatest recording artists ever, the greatest recordings ever, virtually regardless of musical style, and I believe they're also his favorites.
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Reply #138 posted 06/05/06 11:03am

Anx

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Only The Audience picked the greatest recording artists ever, the greatest recordings ever, virtually regardless of musical style, and I believe they're also his favorites.



see, i'd disagree with that. TA's choices were indeed pretty exquisite, but there's definitely a leaning toward certain styles of music. nothing wrong with that, but as "greatest albums" go, it's a pretty subjective approach (not that i think he had any designs on obbjectivity, and i do agree that he chose his personal faves).

i could make a list of what i think are the "greatest" albums ever and someone would surely respond similarly to me.
[Edited 6/5/06 11:03am]
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Reply #139 posted 06/05/06 11:15am

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Anx said:

NDRU said:



Only The Audience picked the greatest recording artists ever, the greatest recordings ever, virtually regardless of musical style, and I believe they're also his favorites.



see, i'd disagree with that. TA's choices were indeed pretty exquisite, but there's definitely a leaning toward certain styles of music. nothing wrong with that, but as "greatest albums" go, it's a pretty subjective approach (not that i think he had any designs on obbjectivity, and i do agree that he chose his personal faves).

i could make a list of what i think are the "greatest" albums ever and someone would surely respond similarly to me.
[Edited 6/5/06 11:03am]


Well, nobody can be totally objective. I guess he didn't have much after 1980, but he had Jazz, Rock, R&B, blues, avant garde, folk, all pretty well represented. I'm not saying they are THE greatest albums ever (I haven't even heard them all), but he came pretty close to what a team of critics might come up with.

Also he had no classical, but I'd argue that those albums are not often classic recordings, but are more likely just recordings of classic music (though I'm sure there are exceptions).
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Reply #140 posted 06/05/06 11:16am

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sextonseven said:

NDRU said:

Or maybe (since it's going to be top 50) #1 should be given 50 points and #25 should be given 26.

That way one vote for Britney Spears at #1 (1 x 50 = 50) would be outweighed by three votes for Marvin Gaye at #25 (3 x 26 = 78) rather than Britney #1 (1 x 25 = 25) and Marvin #25 (3 x 1 = 3).

Any math majors here? I don't want anyone to think the results are unfair. Biased, maybe, but not unfair.


That's sorta how the Village Voice counts votes for their annual Pazz & Jop poll.


I think that's how I'll do it.
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Reply #141 posted 06/05/06 11:27am

Anx

NDRU said:

Anx said:




see, i'd disagree with that. TA's choices were indeed pretty exquisite, but there's definitely a leaning toward certain styles of music. nothing wrong with that, but as "greatest albums" go, it's a pretty subjective approach (not that i think he had any designs on obbjectivity, and i do agree that he chose his personal faves).

i could make a list of what i think are the "greatest" albums ever and someone would surely respond similarly to me.
[Edited 6/5/06 11:03am]


Well, nobody can be totally objective. I guess he didn't have much after 1980, but he had Jazz, Rock, R&B, blues, avant garde, folk, all pretty well represented. I'm not saying they are THE greatest albums ever (I haven't even heard them all), but he came pretty close to what a team of critics might come up with.

Also he had no classical, but I'd argue that those albums are not often classic recordings, but are more likely just recordings of classic music (though I'm sure there are exceptions).


two words of argument:

JOHNNY CASH.

one more word:

FOLSOM. bow
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Reply #142 posted 06/05/06 11:28am

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Anx said:

NDRU said:



Well, nobody can be totally objective. I guess he didn't have much after 1980, but he had Jazz, Rock, R&B, blues, avant garde, folk, all pretty well represented. I'm not saying they are THE greatest albums ever (I haven't even heard them all), but he came pretty close to what a team of critics might come up with.

Also he had no classical, but I'd argue that those albums are not often classic recordings, but are more likely just recordings of classic music (though I'm sure there are exceptions).


two words of argument:

JOHNNY CASH.

one more word:

FOLSOM. bow


Yes. Maybe that's #26
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Reply #143 posted 06/05/06 11:32am

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I did my best to imaging I could only keep 25 albums for the rest of my days, here's what I came up with:

1. Prince: Sign O the Times
2. Elvis Costello: Blood and Chocolate
3. Frank Zappa: Hot Rats
4. Stevie Wonder: Songs in the Key of Life
5. Jimi Hendrix: Electric Ladyland
6. The Beatles: The White Album
7. The Rolling Stones: Let it Bleed
8. Van Morrison: It's Too Late To Stop Now...
9. Frank Zappa: Uncle Meat
10. David Bowie: Young Americans
11. Pink Floyd: The Wall
12. Afghan Whigs: Black Love
13. Built To Spill: Perfect From Now On
14. Prince: Parade
15. R.E.M. : Life's Rich Pageant
16. Siouxsie and the Banshees: Tinderbox
17. Flaming Lips: The Soft Bulletin
18. Neil Young: Tonight's the Night
19. Husker Du: Warehouse: Songs and Stories
20. Smashing Pumpkins: Siamese Dream
21. Genesis: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
22. Kate Bush: Hounds of Love
23. Elvis Costello: My Aim is True
24. Modest Mouse: Lonesome Crowded West
25. XTC: Skylarking
26. Dead Kennedys: Plastic Surgery Disasters
27: Led Zeppelin: Houses of the Holy
28: Roxy Music: Country Life
29: David Bowie: Stationtostation
30: XTC: English Settlement
31: The Clash: London Calling
32: Jimi Hendrix: Axis: Bold as Love
33: John Coltrane: Live at the Village Vanguard
34: Frank Zappa: Lather
35: Neil Young: Zuma


And then I just kept typing. I think it would also be interesting, since no one can even decide on their favorite artists' best albums, to tally up an 'artists' top 50 based on the points garnered. Just a thought.
"I got the devil in me, girl." - 'John the Baptist', Afghan Whigs
"Love has no other desire but to fulfill itself."
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Reply #144 posted 06/05/06 11:36am

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I did my best to imaging I could only keep 25 albums for the rest of my days, here's what I came up with:

And then I just kept typing. I think it would also be interesting, since no one can even decide on their favorite artists' best albums, to tally up an 'artists' top 50 based on the points garnered. Just a thought.


Depending on how much time I can spend on it (it's a lot of data already) I could post beyond 50 or send you the spreadsheet so you can see it all.
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Reply #145 posted 06/05/06 11:36am

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16. Siouxsie and the Banshees: Tinderbox


Someone else chose 'Tinderbox'. Fancy that. smile
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Reply #146 posted 06/05/06 11:50am

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Anx said:

whoknows said:



All I ever heard from DeeLite was Groove Is In The Heart which I absolutely love. I really need to hear more of them. Is that song typical of their style? I'm hoping it's not a Sinead O' Connor situation where you try to get into her then realise the only song you like is Nothing Compares 2U.



if you like "groove is in the heart", then "dewdrops in the garden" will BLOW YOU AWAY. it's like a hyper-steroided-jacked-up version of their first album. it's the best showcase of kier kirby's amazing voice (back then, anyway), and the music simply doesn't let up. even the mid-tempo mellow numbers kick ass. if you like dance music of any kind, i think this album is essential.
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nod I was glad to see Dewdrops end up on your list too smile
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Reply #147 posted 06/05/06 12:39pm

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sextonseven said:

PeteZarustica said:


16. Siouxsie and the Banshees: Tinderbox


Someone else chose 'Tinderbox'. Fancy that. smile



I could argue with myself whether or not it's my favorite...but being the first Sioux album I bought, it is definitely the sentimental favorite...
"I got the devil in me, girl." - 'John the Baptist', Afghan Whigs
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Reply #148 posted 06/05/06 12:41pm

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1. Prince - Parade
2. Radiohead - Hail To The Thief
3. Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love
4. Tori Amos - Boys For Pele
5. Beck - Odelay
6. Terence Trent D'Arby - Neither Fish Nor Flesh
7. Prince - Sign O' The Times
8. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
9. Prince - The Black Album
10. Tori Amos - From The Choirgirl Hotel
11. Lenny Kravitz - Let Love Rule
12. Terence Trent D'Arby - Vibrator
13. Jamiroquai - A Funk Odyssey
14. Me'Shell Ndegeocello - Bitter
15. Portishead - Dummy
16. Seal - Seal I
17. U2 - Zooropa
18. David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust
19. Björk - Debut
20. The Cure - Disintegration
21. Madonna - Ray Of Light
22. U2 - Rattle & Hum
23. Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
24. David Bowie - Young Americans
25. The Beatles - Abbey Road

Now... Where the fstar did I hide the Aspirine? headache
I can't remember my baby's voice cuz she ain't talkin' no more pray
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Reply #149 posted 06/05/06 12:53pm

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PeteZarustica said:

sextonseven said:



Someone else chose 'Tinderbox'. Fancy that. smile



I could argue with myself whether or not it's my favorite...but being the first Sioux album I bought, it is definitely the sentimental favorite...


That would be 'Peepshow' for me. That album would have ranked higher, but I really don't care for "Rawhead And Bloodybones"--one of my least favorite Banshees tracks.
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