Ice Cube Busts A Proverbial Cap In Oprah Winfrey’s Ass


Winfrey defended herself in a surprise appearance on New York City-based radio station Power 105.1 earlier this month, saying, “ I listen to some hip-hop. You know, I've been accused of not liking hip-hop and that's just not true. I got a little 50 (Cent) on my iPod. I really do. Love 'In Da Club.' ... Love that, and you know, love Jay-Z, love Kanye (West), love Mary J. (Blige)." She then added, “I pack a gat too, and will bust a cap in anyone’s ass that dares to say I don’t love hip hop. Ni**a please. I will kill you for a quarter key of yayo in a second,” and proceeded to flash an AK-47 and snort a line of freshly cut heroin. You go, girl!

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OdysseyMiles said:

First Ludacris dissed her for editing out his talk of hip hop in a recent interview, then 50 Cent bashed her for rarely inviting rappers on her show, and now Cube is complaining that the multi-media giant “has got a problem with hip-hop.”

OdysseyMiles said:

where do they think they're going to get ganging up on one of the most famous, rich, and beloved women in history?

where do they think they're going to get ganging up on one of the most famous, rich, and beloved women in history?

Dayspring said:

WTF is THAT supposed to mean? "ganging up?" WHAT? .

Hip hop vet Ice Cube has joined the posse of rappers who are rallying against Oprah Winfrey.

you ought to take a breath once in awhile, you're so blue-in-the-face that your text shows up that color as well

from the first line of the story:

Oprah will come out of this smelling like a rose. She has some very powerful, upstanding people on her side and I'm sure they will rally around her if needed. I highly doubt she is worried about what rap artists are saying about her. Anyone who really knows her doesn't doubt her loyalty and love for her race and I'm sure they know where she's coming from when she makes certain negative comments about the N word and rap music.

Ice Cube Busts A Proverbial Cap In Oprah Winfrey’s Ass

[i]Hip hop vet Ice Cube ... told FHM in their July issue that he’s “been involved in three projects pitched to her, but I've never been asked to participate. For Barbershop, she had Cedric the Entertainer and Eve on, but I wasn't invited. She's had damn rapists, child molesters and lying authors on her show. And if I'm not a rags-to-riches story for her, who is?

Oprah will come out of this smelling like a rose. She has some very powerful, upstanding people on her side and I'm sure they will rally around her if needed. I highly doubt she is worried about what rap artists are saying about her. Anyone who really knows her doesn't doubt her loyalty and love for her race and I'm sure they know where she's coming from when she makes certain negative comments about the N word and rap music.

kisscamille said:

Oprah will come off smelling like an elitist; at least to a portion of the black community. Like Cosby, though she has many accomplishments under her belt and should not be questioned for her love for her race and contributions, she is not infallible and is guilty of brass generalizations about a culture that is not of her generation. Make no mistake; this is the media's ploy to see if they can topple the giant Oprah regime, however there is truth being told in the process. It would be a little different if she were just an actress or a singer. She is however, a talk show host. With all the topics she's done over the years, to ignore hip-hop in her choice of subject matters is SUSPECT. This whole idea of her followers rallying around her is inconsequential. To have something to say on a topic like hip-hop and yet not do a show on it when you are A TALK SHOW HOST is ironic to say the least. I'll bet she does one sooner or later. She jst has to see how big of a stink not doing a show creates within the community before she decides to address it. If you have feelings about a topic and have the power and the vehicle to speak on it but choose not to, what does that say about you?

Dayspring said:

WTF is THAT supposed to mean? "ganging up?" WHAT? Nah, there's no ganging up going on here. Three different black men with three different reasons for saying what they said. They were all ASKED BY THE MEDIA FOR AN OPINION.
50 - an attention whore who likes to beef with celebs because it gets him attention, so he learned from his beef with Sam Jackson.
Ludicris - pissed off because his comments were edited out and he feels he was blindsidedly attacked by Oprah.
Ice Cube - has NEVER liked talk show hosts on the whole - remember
"they asked me if I liked Arsenio
about as much as the bicentennial"
Since he's been on Leno & Letterman and talked about his various projects but has never been invited on Oprah's show obviously has a grudge - and probably with good reason. Hip-hop has been one of the biggest cultural phenoms in the past couple of decades and yet has gone practically ignored by Oprah whereas everyone else has done a show on or acknowledged it in some form.
Oprah has been ignoring the big pink elephant in the middle of the room and before you Oprah-addicts rush to her defense think about it; its not an attack, its the TRUTH.

kisscamille said:

Oprah will come off smelling like an elitist; at least to a portion of the black community. Like Cosby, though she has many accomplishments under her belt and should not be questioned for her love for her race and contributions, she is not infallible and is guilty of brass generalizations about a culture that is not of her generation. Make no mistake; this is the media's ploy to see if they can topple the giant Oprah regime, however there is truth being told in the process. It would be a little different if she were just an actress or a singer. She is however, a talk show host. With all the topics she's done over the years, to ignore hip-hop in her choice of subject matters is SUSPECT. This whole idea of her followers rallying around her is inconsequential. To have something to say on a topic like hip-hop and yet not do a show on it when you are A TALK SHOW HOST is ironic to say the least. I'll bet she does one sooner or later. She jst has to see how big of a stink not doing a show creates within the community before she decides to address it. If you have feelings about a topic and have the power and the vehicle to speak on it but choose not to, what does that say about you?

BlaqueKnight said:

Make no mistake; this is the media's ploy to see if they can topple the giant Oprah regime,

however there is truth being told in the process.

It would be a little different if she were just an actress or a singer. She is however, a talk show host. With all the topics she's done over the years, to ignore hip-hop in her choice of subject matters is SUSPECT. This whole idea of her followers rallying around her is inconsequential. To have something to say on a topic like hip-hop and yet not do a show on it when you are A TALK SHOW HOST is ironic to say the least. I'll bet she does one sooner or later. She jst has to see how big of a stink not doing a show creates within the community before she decides to address it. If you have feelings about a topic and have the power and the vehicle to speak on it but choose not to, what does that say about you?

Well, I wouldn't invite hip hop artists on my show either. Not becuase I hate them--I just don't think they'd make good interviews, except for mayb Chuck D. or P-diddy(not that I like his music, but his documentaries were really interesting).

Cornell West (sp?)--yes. Alice Walker? Yes!

Ice Cube? N@gga Pleaze! Have you seen his last movie?

Oprah likes Jay-Z and Kanye West. She even said she loves "In Da Club".

So what's the big deal?

CinisterCee said:

I can't prove it, but she's lying, I just know it...

Dayspring said:

So do you believe Oprah is being "ganged up on"? Sounds like some subliminal bigotry to me with that implication.

This whole controversy about Oprah is little more than a smokescreen.

The real subtext is this: The powers that be are trying to frame an implicit debate about what portions of black entertainment and, to be clear, black expression will be considered valid (by white America).

I applaud her sisterhood efforts, such as her Legends Ball event. But Oprah caters to her market, which dwarfs the people who connected with that wonderful event.

Oprah represents a surrogate, the epitome of the "Mammy" stereotype for white America: the asexual, maternal surrogate. Here she's being used as a discreditor of and buffer from "uncouth black people."

By dismissing all of hip hop on the pretense of its more extreme aspects, Oprah dismisses the unpalatable realities that have spawned those aspects.

Even worse, she joins the core of her market -- older white suburbanites who wish their children and grandchildren weren't diehard fans of the genre.

True.



Not necessarily.....




As a black woman, I'm sure she has had to put up with people placing stereotypes on her as any minority would. Hip hop has taken over absolutely everything from speech, to clothes, to background music in commercials. In other words, practically everything.

Since the majority of this music is made by black people, so many people like to stereotype all black people as being into not only this music but this lifestyle and label them as "not being as black as they should be" if they aren't into it. They don't just see it as a young black thing, they see it as a way of life for all black people. I remember in the mid 1990s, there were people trying to get schools to teach ebonics which was mainly hip hop slang. The fact that they even tried to get that in schools shows that they want to categorize hip hop as a lifestyle for all black people. I didn't see them trying to do that in the days of words like "jive turkey". These damn assholes need to realize that not every black person is into that bullshit nor wants to be a part of it whatsoever. And it doesn't make them any less of a black person.

Also, speaking on her as a talk show host, just look at the state of all the other talk shows today. Look at shows like Jerry Springer and Jenny Jones. Damn near every single black person they have talks hip hop slang and acts ghetto as hell. Damn near every white person from down south talks like redneck trailer park trash. Damn near every gay person is either in drag or twisting and popping their fingers. All these are stereotypes and very degrading stereotypes to all these groups of people. All black people don't act ghetto, all white southerners aren't rednecks, and all gay people don't twist and finger pop. I'm not a fan of Oprah's and haven't watched her show in years. However, whenever I'm flipping through the channels, I don't see these stereotypes all over her show. I don't know her reasons, but she may see these rappers as degrading sterotypes and refuse to be a part of it. They already have more than enough exposure already so why give them more?
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This whole controversy about Oprah is little more than a smokescreen.

The real subtext is this: The powers that be are trying to frame an implicit debate about what portions of black entertainment and, to be clear, black expression will be considered valid (by white America).

I applaud her sisterhood efforts, such as her Legends Ball event. But Oprah caters to her market, which dwarfs the people who connected with that wonderful event.

Oprah represents a surrogate, the epitome of the "Mammy" stereotype for white America: the asexual, maternal surrogate. Here she's being used as a discreditor of and buffer from "uncouth black people."

By dismissing all of hip hop on the pretense of its more extreme aspects, Oprah dismisses the unpalatable realities that have spawned those aspects.

Even worse, she joins the core of her market -- older white suburbanites who wish their children and grandchildren weren't diehard fans of the genre.

ThreadBare said:

Very well put, Threadbare. The very show that she detests the idea of doing would probably invalidate her own internal stereotypes if she had the RIGHT rappers on her show. The same Ludacris that "hood raps" and brags about gold and "throwing them bows" is acting now and expanding his Hollywood resume. The same Ice Cube that was writing all of NWA's lyrics and was part of what kicked off the whole gangsta movement is married with three kids and does movies like "Are We There Yet" and exceutive produced the socially introspective reality show "Black White". These rappers are living the duality of still being connected to the community on all levels while simultaneously assimilating themselves into the mainstream. I had no idea she invited Cedric and Eve (a rapper) to talk about Barbershop and didn't invite Ice Cube. WTF? Ice Cube was the star! She could do a good show on hip-hop by inviting someone like Common who's views may be a bit closer to hers, Mos Def, Cube, Luda (just to make amends if nothing else), Rah Digga, Remy Ma, Latifah or Missy and maybe an old schooler like Chuck D or KRS-One to cover the political aspects of hip-hop. It would be easy to omit jackasses like 50, or thug rappers like Rick Ross or dope game rappers and no one would think twice. She could have a civilized show and she may even learn a thing or two.
I know I diss rap and rappers often but we can't pretend that they aren't a major influence because in reality they are.