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Reply #30 posted 06/01/06 9:01am

Harlepolis

Chaka has been OFF drugs for 6 years now. She ain't whistling dixie outta her ass(as far as I know).

Natalie Cole made a similar comment about Whitney too, whats the difference between her and Chaka(considering that BOTH of them were heavy druggies in their day, and they even went to the same drug parties 2ghether).
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Reply #31 posted 06/01/06 9:13am

RipHer2Shreds

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I found someone else's comments on here humorous, yes. I wasn't poking fun at Whitney's situation. The notion of someone on drugs helping someone else get clean is acinine to me and funny. I'm not laughing at her life, per se, or Chaka's. As to what you said about AIDS. I don't think anyone who gets it through unprotected sex or needle sharing is qualified in preaching to people how to protect themselves when they didn't. I think it's a slap in the face and ridiculous that it would take somethng like that for someone to get their act together

I agree with a lot of what you said but I don't really with this. I think a lot of people would rather take advice from the horse's mouth. In a nutshell, it's the "don't let your life become what mine has" approach. It's effective prevention for a lot of people.

jw1914 said:

There are people all over the world today that have willingly put themselves into some troublesume situations (Aids, alcohol addiction, drug addiction, pential system, lung cancer, etc.) who wish with all their might that they could turn back the hands of time. But no one can. We all at sometime or another do things that we regret, and what we all will come to realize is that we will need help overcoming a problem. And sometimes it maybe not a solution but a listening ear we need to hear, words of encouragement from a friend. I think that is what Chaka was giving.


You're really generalizing here. There are a good number of people who get lung cancer through no "fault" of their own other than a genetic disposition, second-hand smoke, etc.
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Reply #32 posted 06/01/06 9:49am

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umm...


this thread needs some humor:


Space for sale...
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Reply #33 posted 06/01/06 11:28am

CinisterCee

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Fuck this shit. I'm going to go do drugs now.

lol
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Reply #34 posted 06/01/06 11:32am

VoicesCarry

RipHer2Shreds said:

BlackBuddy said:


I found someone else's comments on here humorous, yes. I wasn't poking fun at Whitney's situation. The notion of someone on drugs helping someone else get clean is acinine to me and funny. I'm not laughing at her life, per se, or Chaka's. As to what you said about AIDS. I don't think anyone who gets it through unprotected sex or needle sharing is qualified in preaching to people how to protect themselves when they didn't. I think it's a slap in the face and ridiculous that it would take somethng like that for someone to get their act together

I agree with a lot of what you said but I don't really with this. I think a lot of people would rather take advice from the horse's mouth. In a nutshell, it's the "don't let your life become what mine has" approach. It's effective prevention for a lot of people.

jw1914 said:

There are people all over the world today that have willingly put themselves into some troublesume situations (Aids, alcohol addiction, drug addiction, pential system, lung cancer, etc.) who wish with all their might that they could turn back the hands of time. But no one can. We all at sometime or another do things that we regret, and what we all will come to realize is that we will need help overcoming a problem. And sometimes it maybe not a solution but a listening ear we need to hear, words of encouragement from a friend. I think that is what Chaka was giving.


You're really generalizing here. There are a good number of people who get lung cancer through no "fault" of their own other than a genetic disposition, second-hand smoke, etc.


Dana Reeve, for one.
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Reply #35 posted 06/01/06 11:34am

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sosgemini said:

umm...


this thread needs some humor:




falloff You picked the right person because he's definately a joke!
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #36 posted 06/01/06 11:59am

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as a recovering Meth addict who was valadictorian of their high school and a full academic scholarship... drug problems can happen to anyone!

drug use is a symptom of a larger problem...

the sad truth is the majority of people never get clean or stay clean. just praise your higher power you are where you are today and ask for guidence that you don't go down a different path.


don't judge or say it won't happen to you because you never know!
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #37 posted 06/01/06 12:01pm

VoicesCarry

ehuffnsd said:

don't judge or say it won't happen to you because you never know!


I know what you're saying. BUT I don't believe in the "it can happen to anyone" thing. It can happen to anyone if they let it. It's a choice. No one is responsible for your drug use other than yourself.
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Reply #38 posted 06/01/06 12:05pm

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VoicesCarry said:

ehuffnsd said:

don't judge or say it won't happen to you because you never know!


I know what you're saying. BUT I don't believe in the "it can happen to anyone" thing. It can happen to anyone if they let it. It's a choice. No one is responsible for your drug use other than yourself.



totally agree... but i meant it more along the lines of you don't know how you are going to feel in the future or what will present itself in the future.
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #39 posted 06/01/06 12:06pm

VoicesCarry

ehuffnsd said:

VoicesCarry said:



I know what you're saying. BUT I don't believe in the "it can happen to anyone" thing. It can happen to anyone if they let it. It's a choice. No one is responsible for your drug use other than yourself.



totally agree... but i meant it more along the lines of you don't know how you are going to feel in the future or what will present itself in the future.


Gotcha thumbs up!
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Reply #40 posted 06/01/06 12:08pm

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Harlepolis said:

Chaka backs Whitney
Source: www.itv.com/news/entertai..._6222.html

R&B icon Chaka Khan has been speaking out in defence of her pal Whitney Houston.

Houston was recently accused of having an alleged drug problem, while pictures of her looking worse for wear have been circulated.

Khan said: We've no way of really knowing what's happening with her, unless you're there with her, y'know?

"It's obvious she's going through some difficult times right now but I have every faith, and my prayers are constantly with her.

"And I'm there for her when she needs me. And I know she will be fine."

She added: "She's a strong, articulate, persecuted woman, and I think she just needs to be left alone and let her get on with her life. Let her battle her demons and I know she'll come out on top."


She protests too much. She's just as worried about Whitney as everyone else....could her comments be any more GENERIC
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #41 posted 06/01/06 12:09pm

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CinisterCee said:

Novabreaker said:

Fuck this shit. I'm going to go do drugs now.

lol


share muthafucka
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #42 posted 06/01/06 8:02pm

jw1914

ehuffnsd said:

VoicesCarry said:



I know what you're saying. BUT I don't believe in the "it can happen to anyone" thing. It can happen to anyone if they let it. It's a choice. No one is responsible for your drug use other than yourself.



totally agree... but i meant it more along the lines of you don't know how you are going to feel in the future or what will present itself in the future.


That was my point I was trying to make earlier. In our present state of mind we may not be heading in that direction and that's great, but life has many turns and we may find ourselves in a weaken state mentally where getting caught up in drug abuse is not far off. Stay close to God, because it is He and only He that can safeguard us.
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Reply #43 posted 06/01/06 9:54pm

BlackBuddy

RipHer2Shreds said:

BlackBuddy said:


I found someone else's comments on here humorous, yes. I wasn't poking fun at Whitney's situation. The notion of someone on drugs helping someone else get clean is acinine to me and funny. I'm not laughing at her life, per se, or Chaka's. As to what you said about AIDS. I don't think anyone who gets it through unprotected sex or needle sharing is qualified in preaching to people how to protect themselves when they didn't. I think it's a slap in the face and ridiculous that it would take somethng like that for someone to get their act together

I agree with a lot of what you said but I don't really with this. I think a lot of people would rather take advice from the horse's mouth. In a nutshell, it's the "don't let your life become what mine has" approach. It's effective prevention for a lot of people.



I see what you're saying, but I've personally always been someone that responded to someome who managed to never go through a particular problem than someone who did and now wants to help. That's just me
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Reply #44 posted 06/01/06 10:05pm

BlackBuddy

jw1914 said:

ehuffnsd said:




totally agree... but i meant it more along the lines of you don't know how you are going to feel in the future or what will present itself in the future.


That was my point I was trying to make earlier. In our present state of mind we may not be heading in that direction and that's great, but life has many turns and we may find ourselves in a weaken state mentally where getting caught up in drug abuse is not far off. Stay close to God, because it is He and only He that can safeguard us.


Well, I'm near 30 and I think if drugs were ever going to come into my life, it would have happened already, even if on a small scale. I have never smoked marijuana. I have never been falling-down drunk. Most people my age have experimented with different things which, in my opinion, makes them more susceptable to heavier drug use later. In order for me to take drigs, I would NEED to seek them out. I would have to look for someone that has them to give or sell. I don't run in those circles, so the effort it would take would be too much for me. I believe in therapy and I can afford it. I have gone through some tough emotional times and have never thought about taking drugs to make the pain go away. We learned about the effects of drugs in middle school and high school. Hell no! However, with celebrities, drugs are everywhere around them and it's up to them to make the right decision and not do what's "cool"

Celebs do have different problems, but they weren't always rich and famous. Some of them were "raised right." My point is I rather spend thousands of dollars on something I can use for more than a short period of time
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Reply #45 posted 06/01/06 10:07pm

BlackBuddy

jw1914 said:

BlackBuddy said:



I found someone else's comments on here humorous, yes. I wasn't poking fun at Whitney's situation. The notion of someone on drugs helping someone else get clean is acinine to me and funny. I'm not laughing at her life, per se, or Chaka's. As to what you said about AIDS. I don't think anyone who gets it through unprotected sex or needle sharing is qualified in preaching to people how to protect themselves when they didn't. I think it's a slap in the face and ridiculous that it would take somethng like that for someone to get their act together

I don't know Whitney personally, but I am going to assume she didn't start taking drugs because she was going through some mental problems. I think it was avalable to her and she did it just to do it. That's just my opinion. I don't know for sure. I have never done drugs. I have never smoked weed. I know I never will even if it was put on a platter in front of me. So, don't expect me to be compassionate for someone who has millions of dollars and steps over the little people. Someone who doesn't have to worry about paying rent or bills or buying food. Someone who can get he best medical care, best clothes, personal trainers, chefs, and etc. If I had that opportunity, I would not fuck it up[Edited 5/31/06 22:52pm]

First by saying that you will never do drugs, you are saying that your mental state as it is right now is guarenteed. Not one of us can do that. So none of us can say how we may view things ten years from now less ten minutes. Second you are assuming that without the worrys of paying rent, or bills, or buying food, and having medical care, and clothes, Whitney had nothing to stress herself out about. Trust me, I believe Whitney along with many other celebrities have far more things to stress them out than the needs of common folks. Our worries are not their worries. People with money are the ones with the most troubled lives or have you noticed?
[Edited 5/31/06 23:14pm]



A lot if times they create the trouble they are in by believing what their ego tells them
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