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Reply #90 posted 05/30/06 5:34am

Anx

DarlingDiana said:

Usually, most artists ands bands get record deals and get played on radio because they are good. This means that those artists who aren't being played on radio, and who aren't having their albums distributed by a major label, (unless they are purposely staying away from mainstream music) aren't as good as those who are being played on radio. So why are you wasting your time on bands that just aren't good enough? Again, not all mainstream artists are being promoting because they are musically good, and not all indie bands are indie because they aren't good enough (some would just rather not get into mainstream music). But in general, good bands get played on radio, those who aren't played on radio are just not good enough.


please take me back in your time machine to 1968...
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Reply #91 posted 05/30/06 5:35am

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Anx said:

DarlingDiana said:

Usually, most artists ands bands get record deals and get played on radio because they are good. This means that those artists who aren't being played on radio, and who aren't having their albums distributed by a major label, (unless they are purposely staying away from mainstream music) aren't as good as those who are being played on radio. So why are you wasting your time on bands that just aren't good enough? Again, not all mainstream artists are being promoting because they are musically good, and not all indie bands are indie because they aren't good enough (some would just rather not get into mainstream music). But in general, good bands get played on radio, those who aren't played on radio are just not good enough.


please take me back in your time machine to 1968...

falloff

(I'll take you though Anx. I've been working on my time machine for years now razz )
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Reply #92 posted 05/30/06 5:46am

NorthernLad

DarlingDiana said:

Usually, most artists ands bands get record deals and get played on radio because they are good. This means that those artists who aren't being played on radio, and who aren't having their albums distributed by a major label, (unless they are purposely staying away from mainstream music) aren't as good as those who are being played on radio. So why are you wasting your time on bands that just aren't good enough? Again, not all mainstream artists are being promoting because they are musically good, and not all indie bands are indie because they aren't good enough (some would just rather not get into mainstream music). But in general, good bands get played on radio, those who aren't played on radio are just not good enough.




zipped lol
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Reply #93 posted 05/30/06 6:29am

VoicesCarry

Anx said:

DarlingDiana said:

Usually, most artists ands bands get record deals and get played on radio because they are good. This means that those artists who aren't being played on radio, and who aren't having their albums distributed by a major label, (unless they are purposely staying away from mainstream music) aren't as good as those who are being played on radio. So why are you wasting your time on bands that just aren't good enough? Again, not all mainstream artists are being promoting because they are musically good, and not all indie bands are indie because they aren't good enough (some would just rather not get into mainstream music). But in general, good bands get played on radio, those who aren't played on radio are just not good enough.


please take me back in your time machine to 1968...


evillol Forreal.
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Reply #94 posted 05/30/06 7:10am

endorphin74

Anx said:

i used to be a huge music snob. then i lightened up. but i think i'm going to be a music snob again. lol


giggle If a return to snobbery would stop you from ever including a song like My Humps on your annual compilation, I encourage you to snob-away giggle
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Reply #95 posted 05/30/06 7:12am

jw1914

DarlingDiana said:

Usually, most artists ands bands get record deals and get played on radio because they are good. This means that those artists who aren't being played on radio, and who aren't having their albums distributed by a major label, (unless they are purposely staying away from mainstream music) aren't as good as those who are being played on radio. So why are you wasting your time on bands that just aren't good enough? Again, not all mainstream artists are being promoting because they are musically good, and not all indie bands are indie because they aren't good enough (some would just rather not get into mainstream music). But in general, good bands get played on radio, those who aren't played on radio are just not good enough.



You can't truly believe that?

Music snob? Music is not all subjective. It's not just a matter of personal taste. There is good music, great music and poor music. Who determines this? The basics of music itself. For those who may not be aware of this but to have sound classified as music it must have rymthm, harmony and an organize composition, otherwise the knocking of a car's engine could be music to someone's ears (an some artist songs sounds just like that). What goes into a person's ear is much like what goes into a person mouth, it will have an effect. If a person feeds on food that contains very little nutritional value the results will show up in that person's physical health. While it is a personal choice what a person eats, that choice will manifest itself for good or for bad. If a person feeds on a diet of poor music this too will manifest itself, this person will not be able to digest nor distinguish good music, for their ears are untrained. The music media is a business, and like all businesses there exist a profit margin, so the industry have discovered that it is far easier and profitable to creat "pop stars" then to discover musical talent. And as long as the public continues to eat it up, the quality of "mainstream radio" will never get better.
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Reply #96 posted 05/30/06 7:12am

Anx

endorphin74 said:

Anx said:

i used to be a huge music snob. then i lightened up. but i think i'm going to be a music snob again. lol


giggle If a return to snobbery would stop you from ever including a song like My Humps on your annual compilation, I encourage you to snob-away giggle


I hate to say it, but a strong (smelling) contender for my 2006 compilation is Peaches' answer song, "My Dumps". biggrin
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Reply #97 posted 05/30/06 7:15am

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hah! jw1914
a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on
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Reply #98 posted 05/30/06 7:20am

Mara

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I listen to about 100 artists that probably half of you'z wouldn't even to begin to know about.. good music.

I just don't bother posting about them here.

Most of u radio mainstream peeps wouldn't dig


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Reply #99 posted 05/30/06 7:22am

endorphin74

Anx said:

endorphin74 said:



giggle If a return to snobbery would stop you from ever including a song like My Humps on your annual compilation, I encourage you to snob-away giggle


I hate to say it, but a strong (smelling) contender for my 2006 compilation is Peaches' answer song, "My Dumps". biggrin


lol of COURSE it is lol
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Reply #100 posted 05/30/06 7:26am

jw1914

A classic example of what I'm talking about is "American Idol". Now days the average Joe Smoe can be made into a "pop star". Why? Because the music industry has gotten the public to the point where they can not distinguish musical talent. I can walk into a club in NY on any given night a hear (notice I said "hear not "see") a artist with far more musical talent than anyone on "American Idol". Close your eyes and open your ears!!!
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Reply #101 posted 05/30/06 7:30am

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what a wonderful slammin' thread touched
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Reply #102 posted 05/30/06 7:32am

Anx

Ya know, Frank Zappa of all people once said that as long as any kind of music touched even one person's life, then that music isn't crap.

Of course, Zappa made fun of a LOT of music in his lifetime...
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Reply #103 posted 05/30/06 7:34am

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jw1914 said:

A classic example of what I'm talking about is "American Idol". Now days the average Joe Smoe can be made into a "pop star". Why? Because the music industry has gotten the public to the point where they can not distinguish musical talent. I can walk into a club in NY on any given night a hear (notice I said "hear not "see") a artist with far more musical talent than anyone on "American Idol". Close your eyes and open your ears!!!

Not many are contesting that here. There are a million threads about this very subject! err You're the one who should maybe open your eyes, not your ears, for a minute and check them out before making statements like this because you'd be probably the 200th person here to say that already. What people have a problem with, is the fact that you are just making a broad statement about everyone here (everyone besides yourself of course) that they all have bad taste in music and only listen to crap pop.
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Reply #104 posted 05/30/06 7:40am

NorthernLad

jw1914 said:

DarlingDiana said:

Usually, most artists ands bands get record deals and get played on radio because they are good. This means that those artists who aren't being played on radio, and who aren't having their albums distributed by a major label, (unless they are purposely staying away from mainstream music) aren't as good as those who are being played on radio. So why are you wasting your time on bands that just aren't good enough? Again, not all mainstream artists are being promoting because they are musically good, and not all indie bands are indie because they aren't good enough (some would just rather not get into mainstream music). But in general, good bands get played on radio, those who aren't played on radio are just not good enough.



You can't truly believe that?

Music snob? Music is not all subjective. It's not just a matter of personal taste. There is good music, great music and poor music. Who determines this? The basics of music itself. For those who may not be aware of this but to have sound classified as music it must have rymthm, harmony and an organize composition, otherwise the knocking of a car's engine could be music to someone's ears (an some artist songs sounds just like that). What goes into a person's ear is much like what goes into a person mouth, it will have an effect. If a person feeds on food that contains very little nutritional value the results will show up in that person's physical health. While it is a personal choice what a person eats, that choice will manifest itself for good or for bad. If a person feeds on a diet of poor music this too will manifest itself, this person will not be able to digest nor distinguish good music, for their ears are untrained. The music media is a business, and like all businesses there exist a profit margin, so the industry have discovered that it is far easier and profitable to creat "pop stars" then to discover musical talent. And as long as the public continues to eat it up, the quality of "mainstream radio" will never get better.
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Good music is 100% subjective. If a person likes a song, it is good to that person. That’s all that matters. You can appreciate the artistry behind a song – and that’s fine. But that doesn’t somehow make you an authority on what is and isn’t “good.”

For some, music is just about having fun and bopping along. There is nothing wrong with that.

I have several thousand CDs; I’ve been listening to music since I was a toddler. My dad was a musician and in bands all the time I was growing up, and I had musicians around the house constantly. Music has always been a huge part of my life - it is my hobby and my passion. That being said, I would never presume to say I know what “good” music is and that what other people listen to is “not good” or that somehow I am like Salieri and I can recognize great music when I hear it. Sure, I have my opinions, but my opinion is as valid as every other person on this forum who listens to music, whether they have 1 CD or 10,000.

Music is just like food: it’s all about taste.
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Reply #105 posted 05/30/06 7:44am

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NorthernLad said:

jw1914 said:




You can't truly believe that?

Music snob? Music is not all subjective. It's not just a matter of personal taste. There is good music, great music and poor music. Who determines this? The basics of music itself. For those who may not be aware of this but to have sound classified as music it must have rymthm, harmony and an organize composition, otherwise the knocking of a car's engine could be music to someone's ears (an some artist songs sounds just like that). What goes into a person's ear is much like what goes into a person mouth, it will have an effect. If a person feeds on food that contains very little nutritional value the results will show up in that person's physical health. While it is a personal choice what a person eats, that choice will manifest itself for good or for bad. If a person feeds on a diet of poor music this too will manifest itself, this person will not be able to digest nor distinguish good music, for their ears are untrained. The music media is a business, and like all businesses there exist a profit margin, so the industry have discovered that it is far easier and profitable to creat "pop stars" then to discover musical talent. And as long as the public continues to eat it up, the quality of "mainstream radio" will never get better.
[Edited 5/30/06 7:30am]



Good music is 100% subjective. If a person likes a song, it is good to that person. That’s all that matters. You can appreciate the artistry behind a song – and that’s fine. But that doesn’t somehow make you an authority on what is and isn’t “good.”

For some, music is just about having fun and bopping along. There is nothing wrong with that.

I have several thousand CDs; I’ve been listening to music since I was a toddler. My dad was a musician and in bands all the time I was growing up, and I had musicians around the house constantly. Music has always been a huge part of my life - it is my hobby and my passion. That being said, I would never presume to say I know what “good” music is and that what other people listen to is “not good” or that somehow I am like Salieri and I can recognize great music when I hear it. Sure, I have my opinions, but my opinion is as valid as every other person on this forum who listens to music, whether they have 1 CD or 10,000.

Music is just like food: it’s all about taste.

Good post, but I think we are wasting our time here. lol I don't think he even reads one word of what anyone else here has posted. He's just posting to admire his own contributions it seems.
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Reply #106 posted 05/30/06 7:45am

jw1914

minneapolisgenius said:

jw1914 said:

A classic example of what I'm talking about is "American Idol". Now days the average Joe Smoe can be made into a "pop star". Why? Because the music industry has gotten the public to the point where they can not distinguish musical talent. I can walk into a club in NY on any given night a hear (notice I said "hear not "see") a artist with far more musical talent than anyone on "American Idol". Close your eyes and open your ears!!!

Not many are contesting that here. There are a million threads about this very subject! err You're the one who should maybe open your eyes, not your ears, for a minute and check them out before making statements like this because you'd be probably the 200th person here to say that already. What people have a problem with, is the fact that you are just making a broad statement about everyone here (everyone besides yourself of course) that they all have bad taste in music and only listen to crap pop.



Yo bro, why are you getting so bent out of shape if the comments I made do not apply to you? I did not say "everyone", I simply asked "is there anyone?" simply judging by the forum topics. I did not know you were a MJ fan, my bad,
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Reply #107 posted 05/30/06 7:49am

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jw1914 said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Not many are contesting that here. There are a million threads about this very subject! err You're the one who should maybe open your eyes, not your ears, for a minute and check them out before making statements like this because you'd be probably the 200th person here to say that already. What people have a problem with, is the fact that you are just making a broad statement about everyone here (everyone besides yourself of course) that they all have bad taste in music and only listen to crap pop.



Yo bro, why are you getting so bent out of shape if the comments I made do not apply to you? I did not say "everyone", I simply asked "is there anyone?" simply judging by the forum topics. I did not know you were a MJ fan, my bad,

Wow, you really haven't read anything I've posted here. lol And I'm not a "bro" for the record.
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Reply #108 posted 05/30/06 7:51am

jw1914

Yo NorthernLad, so tell me from your statement "music is like food, it's all about taste" there is not such a thing as food that's bad for you? No wonder you can't tell good music!
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Reply #109 posted 05/30/06 7:53am

Novabreaker

DarlingDiana said:

Usually, most artists ands bands get record deals and get played on radio because they are good. This means that those artists who aren't being played on radio, and who aren't having their albums distributed by a major label, (unless they are purposely staying away from mainstream music) aren't as good as those who are being played on radio. So why are you wasting your time on bands that just aren't good enough? Again, not all mainstream artists are being promoting because they are musically good, and not all indie bands are indie because they aren't good enough (some would just rather not get into mainstream music). But in general, good bands get played on radio, those who aren't played on radio are just not good enough.


falloff

You have a very strange sense of humour.
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Reply #110 posted 05/30/06 7:54am

jw1914

minneapolisgenius said:

jw1914 said:




Yo bro, why are you getting so bent out of shape if the comments I made do not apply to you? I did not say "everyone", I simply asked "is there anyone?" simply judging by the forum topics. I did not know you were a MJ fan, my bad,

Wow, you really haven't read anything I've posted here. lol And I'm not a "bro" for the record.



Trust me I already knew you weren't a "bro", I was simply was befriending you.
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Reply #111 posted 05/30/06 7:54am

NorthernLad

jw1914 said:

Yo NorthernLad, so tell me from your statement "music is like food, it's all about taste" there is not such a thing as food that's bad for you? No wonder you can't tell good music!


Yeah there is. I hate onions, and I won't eat anything with onions. It doesn't make onions "bad." It simply means: "I don't like onions."

I really can't stand Stevie Wonder. His voice, his musical style, his lyrics... really do nothing for me. I've tried to get into him, but he just doesn't do it for me. Does that mean I think Stevie is "bad"? Nope. Just means I don't care for him personally. I recognize his talent, but I have no desire to listen to him.
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Reply #112 posted 05/30/06 7:56am

NorthernLad

minneapolisgenius said:

Good post, but I think we are wasting our time here. lol I don't think he even reads one word of what anyone else here has posted. He's just posting to admire his own contributions it seems.



Yeah, I know. wink It's slow at work today, though.
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Reply #113 posted 05/30/06 7:57am

VoicesCarry

minneapolisgenius said:

jw1914 said:




Yo bro, why are you getting so bent out of shape if the comments I made do not apply to you? I did not say "everyone", I simply asked "is there anyone?" simply judging by the forum topics. I did not know you were a MJ fan, my bad,

Wow, you really haven't read anything I've posted here. lol And I'm not a "bro" for the record.


duh After all these years, it's finally come out - you're an MJ fan!
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Reply #114 posted 05/30/06 7:57am

Anx

people who don't allow others their personal tastes aren't snobs; they're boring fascists.
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Reply #115 posted 05/30/06 7:58am

VoicesCarry

jw1914 said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Wow, you really haven't read anything I've posted here. lol And I'm not a "bro" for the record.



Trust me I already knew you weren't a "bro", I was simply was befriending you.


Sure, girlfriend!
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Reply #116 posted 05/30/06 7:59am

NorthernLad

VoicesCarry said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Wow, you really haven't read anything I've posted here. lol And I'm not a "bro" for the record.


duh After all these years, it's finally come out - you're an MJ fan!



mamma say, mamma sa.... ma-ma cooo saa.

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Reply #117 posted 05/30/06 7:59am

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VoicesCarry said:

jw1914 said:




Trust me I already knew you weren't a "bro", I was simply was befriending you.


Sure, girlfriend!

lol nod
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Reply #118 posted 05/30/06 8:01am

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VoicesCarry said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Wow, you really haven't read anything I've posted here. lol And I'm not a "bro" for the record.


duh After all these years, it's finally come out - you're an MJ fan!

The most fanatic of them all. nod
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Reply #119 posted 05/30/06 8:02am

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Anx said:

people who don't allow others their personal tastes aren't snobs; they're boring fascists.

I think I'm going to do a T-shirt design for that. hmmm
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