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Thread started 05/27/06 4:34pm

EmbattledWarri
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Ryan Adams... Underated Prolific Artist?



Its been a while since i listened to current music, a few monthes ago a friend of mines played me the track When The Stars Go blue, it sounded like an acoustic 70's track. I was supremely surprised it came out from Ryans album Gold, which came out in 01.

My fascination began to grow as i checked out his catalogue more, and saw his ability as a song writer to be phenominal!

He's truly a star that deserves world wide recognition and yet he doesn''t...
i find it extremely frustrating that i never heard of him until only a few monthes ago?

wtf is wrong with the world?
have we all been blinded by popish slush so long we can't acknowledge real talent anymore

i havent bought an album in 2 years, yesterday i bought 3 of his.
cause he deserves it

best albums i listened to in a long time...

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Reply #1 posted 05/27/06 6:32pm

medoc2003

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ryan is awesome. it is funny, everytime i tell someone of him, they think i'm talking about BRIAN adams. it is to the point, that if i even mention him, i say "ryan, not brian, adams"

about a month ago, i saw him live solo acoustic. he is a great performer. he can totally rock, or do very intimate, emotionally raw, sensitive ballads.

one of the things that gets in the way of his success is his erratic behavior. he cancels shows (i know he cancelled twice in a row on me), he shows up to shows totally baked, he can be a very temperament. he is one of those artists that walks that fine line between wild life and self destruction.

that aside, he is probably my favorite current song writer, and buy all of his stuff.
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Reply #2 posted 05/27/06 6:51pm

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medoc2003 said:

ryan is awesome. it is funny, everytime i tell someone of him, they think i'm talking about BRIAN adams. it is to the point, that if i even mention him, i say "ryan, not brian, adams"

about a month ago, i saw him live solo acoustic. he is a great performer. he can totally rock, or do very intimate, emotionally raw, sensitive ballads.

one of the things that gets in the way of his success is his erratic behavior. he cancels shows (i know he cancelled twice in a row on me), he shows up to shows totally baked, he can be a very temperament. he is one of those artists that walks that fine line between wild life and self destruction.

that aside, he is probably my favorite current song writer, and buy all of his stuff.


yah i heard he was erratic
i heeard he threw a fan out who requested a brian adams song!
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Reply #3 posted 05/27/06 8:15pm

NorthernLad

he's an amazing talent, but i can't keep up w/ all his releases.

my favorite album is Love is Hell.. the track "This house is not for sale" is amazing
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Reply #4 posted 05/27/06 10:30pm

Sdldawn

I think he is a good artist.. Love is Hell (Both ep's) are very good material.. I think releasing 3 albums in one year was a bad idea.. good for the die hard fans, but the rest of us are weeding through it.

I also think he has a crap attitude.. he seems very cocky and it seems the artist that work with him, don't have much to say bout him.
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Reply #5 posted 05/28/06 3:26am

IstenSzek

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I love most of his stuff but there is a lot of it and eventho i have
i think about 80% of his stuff now, there simply is too much to get
your head around at once.

I think I need at least another 2 years before I'm ready for a new
Ryan Adams album.

But The Suicide Notebook (canceled album, think Prince Crystal Ball)
is among my fav albums by any artist ever.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #6 posted 05/28/06 5:07am

CrozzaUK

The guy's a genius, but as with all of them, he's not without his problems or imperfections. Ive seen him live 4 times now with widely varying results. Last time i saw him (in Feb) he combined some of the most awful performances Ive seen given with some of the most beautiful, heart felt renditions of his songs. It was such a stark contrast.

I personally count him among my top 3 artists, not just because he is so prolific, but i find the consistency of his work outstanding. No one can tug on the heartstrings like he can, as one listen to Heartbreaker will confirm.

As for releasing 3 albusm last year, at first I thought he was mad, but now I have them all, there isnt anything id want to change about them. All are beautiful in a different way. I have close to everything hes done (out of whiskeytown), and his unreleased albums The Suicide Handbook and 48 Hrs are both as good as anything he's released (save Heartbreaker -his best record)

I dont think he's underrated in the sense that the people who are aware of him, his fans, think he's the best fucking thing on the planet, although their loyalty is tested by his behaviour sometimes.
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Reply #7 posted 05/28/06 5:17am

PANDURITO

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It's the name. People can't forgive that shake

He should change it to something like

Om Jones

or

Ikel Jackson

you get the idea
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Reply #8 posted 05/28/06 6:06am

Cheek

PANDURITO said:

It's the name. People can't forgive that shake

He should change it to something like

Om Jones

or

Ikel Jackson

you get the idea


falloff
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Reply #9 posted 05/28/06 5:57pm

EmbattledWarri
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PANDURITO said:

It's the name. People can't forgive that shake

He should change it to something like

Om Jones

or

Ikel Jackson

you get the idea

lmfao thats horrible!
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Reply #10 posted 05/28/06 5:59pm

kidelrich

I like him, but he's probably overrated. Or at least, he was in the recent past.
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Reply #11 posted 05/28/06 7:34pm

NorthernLad

IstenSzek said:

I love most of his stuff but there is a lot of it and eventho i have
i think about 80% of his stuff now, there simply is too much to get
your head around at once.

I think I need at least another 2 years before I'm ready for a new
Ryan Adams album.

But The Suicide Notebook (canceled album, think Prince Crystal Ball)
is among my fav albums by any artist ever.



I've been looking for The Suicide Notebook for ages with no luck sad
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Reply #12 posted 05/28/06 9:46pm

EmbattledWarri
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NorthernLad said:

IstenSzek said:

I love most of his stuff but there is a lot of it and eventho i have
i think about 80% of his stuff now, there simply is too much to get
your head around at once.

I think I need at least another 2 years before I'm ready for a new
Ryan Adams album.

But The Suicide Notebook (canceled album, think Prince Crystal Ball)
is among my fav albums by any artist ever.



I've been looking for The Suicide Notebook for ages with no luck sad

i googled it i got nothing for The Suicide Notebooks, what is it a bootlegg?
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Reply #13 posted 05/29/06 6:55am

IstenSzek

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EmbattledWarrior said:

NorthernLad said:




I've been looking for The Suicide Notebook for ages with no luck sad

i googled it i got nothing for The Suicide Notebooks, what is it a bootlegg?



it was something much along the lines of Prince's Crystal Ball
project. in the end some of the material ended up on other cds
like Demolition and stuff.

Dear Chicago was one of the songs and She Wants to play Hearts.

i will try to look for it again. i think i got it off some rare
blog or something a while ago.

Track listing

Wild Flowers [included on Gold]
Perfect And True
Tell It To My Heart
She Wants To Play Hearts [included on Demolition]
Pretenders
Famous Eyes
Touch, Feel & Lose [included on Gold]
Firecracker [included on Gold]
La Cienega Just Smiled [included on Gold]
For No One
You Don't Know Me
Bow To The Sad Lady
Off Broadway
Cracks In A Photograph
I'm Waiting
Cry On Demand [included on Demolition]
Miss Sunflower
Just Saying Hi [now known as "Answering Bell"]
My California Love
Idiots Rule The World
Dear Chicago [included on Demolition]


also, i made a mistake since it is called the Suicide Handbook
and not Notebook.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #14 posted 05/29/06 6:56am

IstenSzek

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another blurb about the album:

The Suicide Handbook is one of many unreleased music LPs by Ryan Adams. It was recorded at Javelina Studios in Nashville, Tennessee sometime in early 2001 (possibly January) soon before Adams' album Gold was recorded. It is a subdued acoustic record similar to Heartbreaker, but in contrast to Gold's higher level of production and more complex musical arrangements. Like Heartbreaker, it has a sad, sentimenal tone concerning the breakup of an intimate relationship (while "Idiots Rule The World" would give political overtones to anybody who hadn't heard the song, Ryan has claimed on live bootlegs that "it's about not being able to score chicks").

Suicide Handbook is traded amongst bootleg collectors. It contains audible pops and other audio infidelities that are the result of the original audio transfer from the master recording.
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Reply #15 posted 05/29/06 7:07am

Lammastide

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I heard he was a jerk.

I don't know his work, but I loved that song "New York, New York."
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #16 posted 05/29/06 7:15am

PANDURITO

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Lammastide said:

I heard he was a jerk.

I don't know his work, but I loved that song "New York, New York."

That was Rank Sinatra neutral
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Reply #17 posted 05/29/06 7:27am

IstenSzek

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PANDURITO said:

Lammastide said:

I heard he was a jerk.

I don't know his work, but I loved that song "New York, New York."

That was Rank Sinatra neutral


are you sure it wasn't jörk? she's known to attact people at airports

neutral
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Reply #18 posted 05/29/06 7:29am

Lammastide

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PANDURITO said:

Lammastide said:

I heard he was a jerk.

I don't know his work, but I loved that song "New York, New York."

That was Rank Sinatra neutral

lol


Taken, actually!
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #19 posted 05/29/06 7:32am

Lammastide

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IstenSzek said:

PANDURITO said:


That was Rank Sinatra neutral


jörk?

neutral

giggle Clever.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #20 posted 05/29/06 11:46am

Sdldawn

IstenSzek said:



But The Suicide Notebook (canceled album, think Prince Crystal Ball)
is among my fav albums by any artist ever.


have to check this out
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Reply #21 posted 05/29/06 1:42pm

prinssi

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i know it's funny, but somehow i found similarities between Ryan and Prince.
i love them both, and big part of the fascination is the fact that you can never really know what kind of material (or of what quality) to expect. and of course they are both quite prolific...

i've been fan of Ryan since Whiskeytown times, and i must admit that i have nearly lost interest few times already, but always he comes back with great stuff. IMO last year was terrific! Cold Roses, Jacksonville and especially 29 were all great! Rock'n'roll is the only album i dont like, and Demolition is also quite uneven.

seen him live twice, first time he was great. funny, talented, captivating.
second time he was too high. boring. lol
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Reply #22 posted 05/29/06 1:47pm

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I know almost nothing about him. hmmm Best album?
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Reply #23 posted 05/29/06 1:55pm

prinssi

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Best album? Heartbreaker (debut, quite acoustic and very mellow) is maybe the best... but Gold (rockier), Love Is Hell (very plain and acoustic and sad) are excellent as well.

Almost all albums are safe bets, except for Rock'n'roll which stands out as a too little strokish and too much stadionrockish album. And Jacksonville City Nights is his most trad country album, but a fairly good one.
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Reply #24 posted 05/29/06 2:04pm

abierman

funny thing is that he's so craving to be a rock 'n roll-star that he'll never be one.....I love the tragedy about that! The Rock N Roll album was a big 'fuck you' and it sucked, and he knows!

I love Ryan Adams, saw him live twice, once acoustic and once with band.....very good!
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Reply #25 posted 05/29/06 2:06pm

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prinssi said:

Best album? Heartbreaker (debut, quite acoustic and very mellow) is maybe the best... but Gold (rockier), Love Is Hell (very plain and acoustic and sad) are excellent as well.

Almost all albums are safe bets, except for Rock'n'roll which stands out as a too little strokish and too much stadionrockish album. And Jacksonville City Nights is his most trad country album, but a fairly good one.

Cool and thanks! nod
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Reply #26 posted 06/01/06 11:29pm

EmbattledWarri
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The problem with Ryan is he seriously needs an editor
cause releasing 3 C.D.s a year is nut cutting it

you get alot of filler mixed with alot of remarkable songs

seems he's got a prince complex...
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