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Thread started 05/11/06 2:04pm

badujunkie

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So...Bootsy Collins?

...is his shit the same (basically) as George Clinton's?
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Reply #1 posted 05/11/06 4:46pm

jw1914

badujunkie said:

...is his shit the same (basically) as George Clinton's?



Some people give George way too much credit. Just buy Bootsy's cd's and listen!
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Reply #2 posted 05/11/06 4:55pm

funkpill

jw1914 said:

badujunkie said:

...is his shit the same (basically) as George Clinton's?



Some people give George way too much credit. Just buy Bootsy's cd's and listen!



Check this out my friend.... biggrin





http://www.youtube.com/wa...%20clinton
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Reply #3 posted 05/11/06 4:59pm

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badujunkie said:

...is his shit the same (basically) as George Clinton's?


No there is a difference...but Bootsy is like that came out of P-Funk....he is his own thang, althogh the funk is just about the same
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Reply #4 posted 05/11/06 5:09pm

funkpill

paisleypark4 said:

badujunkie said:

...is his shit the same (basically) as George Clinton's?


No there is a difference...but Bootsy is like that came out of P-Funk....he is his own thang, althogh the funk is just about the same



Corrections:

He was an original J.B. before he hook up with George...

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Reply #5 posted 05/12/06 7:21am

Graycap23

badujunkie said:

...is his shit the same (basically) as George Clinton's?



Ahhh.....no. Bootsy is his OWN Funk machine.
From JB to Dee-lite to Buckethead to Zillatron.
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Reply #6 posted 05/12/06 7:59am

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Graycap23 said:

badujunkie said:

...is his shit the same (basically) as George Clinton's?



Ahhh.....no. Bootsy is his OWN Funk machine.
From JB to Dee-lite to Buckethead to Zillatron.

Nah, not at all. U have to understand, although Clinton was the master at having a vision and a coldblooded concept, a musician he wasn't. He relied on having brilliant musicians and great songwriters. That said, Bootsy was one of his MAIN songwriters, so most of the jams you're familiar with from George's camp, Bootsy had a crucial hand in. Now, Bootsy's albums were his concepts and his vision. He showcased his out of sight, damn near Hendrix on bass like grooves, which was more progressive.
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Reply #7 posted 05/14/06 4:34pm

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Hey guys...

ran into this sometime ago...

way cool for u bootsy fans...

http://www.newfunktimes.n...s/cartoon/

just click the cartoons

r/f
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Reply #8 posted 05/21/06 7:13pm

jw1914

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Graycap23 said:




Ahhh.....no. Bootsy is his OWN Funk machine.
From JB to Dee-lite to Buckethead to Zillatron.

Nah, not at all. U have to understand, although Clinton was the master at having a vision and a coldblooded concept, a musician he wasn't. He relied on having brilliant musicians and great songwriters. That said, Bootsy was one of his MAIN songwriters, so most of the jams you're familiar with from George's camp, Bootsy had a crucial hand in. Now, Bootsy's albums were his concepts and his vision. He showcased his out of sight, damn near Hendrix on bass like grooves, which was more progressive.


Yo Black I couldn't have said it better myself! George was blessed to have at his disposal some great musicians who made George's career. Pfunk music didn't become silly until George started featuring more of his own voice, I mean that's my opinion
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Reply #9 posted 05/22/06 12:17am

Tosh

jw1914 said:

blackguitaristz said:


Nah, not at all. U have to understand, although Clinton was the master at having a vision and a coldblooded concept, a musician he wasn't. He relied on having brilliant musicians and great songwriters. That said, Bootsy was one of his MAIN songwriters, so most of the jams you're familiar with from George's camp, Bootsy had a crucial hand in. Now, Bootsy's albums were his concepts and his vision. He showcased his out of sight, damn near Hendrix on bass like grooves, which was more progressive.


Yo Black I couldn't have said it better myself! George was blessed to have at his disposal some great musicians who made George's career. Pfunk music didn't become silly until George started featuring more of his own voice, I mean that's my opinion


It was basically the same but Bootsy's solo records are a little bit more dated then Parliament and Funkadelic. The Casper voice is absolutly dated and I find the singing on Parliament Funkadelic better.
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Reply #10 posted 05/22/06 12:47am

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Tosh said:

jw1914 said:



Yo Black I couldn't have said it better myself! George was blessed to have at his disposal some great musicians who made George's career. Pfunk music didn't become silly until George started featuring more of his own voice, I mean that's my opinion


It was basically the same but Bootsy's solo records are a little bit more dated then Parliament and Funkadelic. The Casper voice is absolutly dated and I find the singing on Parliament Funkadelic better.


Well I would disagree about Bootsy seeming more dated although I would agree about the singing. A couple of crucial differences in Bootsy's sound relative to the rest of P-funk was that A.P-funk rarely did slow jams, Bootsy more or less perfected the atomic climax slow jam with songs like Munchies for your love etc. and B. While p-funk rarely had prominent heavy guitars and horns and keyboards all at once, bootsy came closer to combining the best aspects of parliament and funkadelic than any other spinoff group, I refer specifically to "another point of view".

As to the original question, a lot of Bootsy's post P-funk projects are worlds different from most stuff made under George Clinton's auspices. Praxis, Zillatron and Buckethead all combined funk, thrash, ambient and hip hop to create what I like to refer to as "cyber funk" something G.C. for all his brilliance never came up with.
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Reply #11 posted 05/22/06 7:50am

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Bootsy the same as George Clinton is like saying Micheal Jackson is the same as Prince.
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Reply #12 posted 05/22/06 8:13am

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jacktheimprovident said:

refer to as "cyber funk" something G.C. for all his brilliance never came up with.



Ya must have missed out on George's middle Capitol releases: Bit Fishand Jokes, plus the mid 90s AXIOM FUNK had Bill Laswell bringing George and Bootsy together (which is where Bootsy begat his Zillatron alter-ego).


[Edited 5/22/06 8:14am]
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Reply #13 posted 05/24/06 11:54am

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PFunkjazz said:

jacktheimprovident said:

refer to as "cyber funk" something G.C. for all his brilliance never came up with.



Ya must have missed out on George's middle Capitol releases: Bit Fishand Jokes, plus the mid 90s AXIOM FUNK had Bill Laswell bringing George and Bootsy together (which is where Bootsy begat his Zillatron alter-ego).


[Edited 5/22/06 8:14am]


You're righth I haven't heard bit fish and jokes, but wasn't funkronomicon mostly the work of Bill Laswell
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Reply #14 posted 05/25/06 2:46pm

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jw1914 said:

blackguitaristz said:


Nah, not at all. U have to understand, although Clinton was the master at having a vision and a coldblooded concept, a musician he wasn't. He relied on having brilliant musicians and great songwriters. That said, Bootsy was one of his MAIN songwriters, so most of the jams you're familiar with from George's camp, Bootsy had a crucial hand in. Now, Bootsy's albums were his concepts and his vision. He showcased his out of sight, damn near Hendrix on bass like grooves, which was more progressive.


Yo Black I couldn't have said it better myself! George was blessed to have at his disposal some great musicians who made George's career. Pfunk music didn't become silly until George started featuring more of his own voice, I mean that's my opinion

Thanx and uh, I can dig it.
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