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How the Beatles destroyed pop. Apparently, this huge Beatles fan thinks that because of their amazing brilliance, the Beatles ruined pop music by creating some unattainable standards for other artists to reach, much like Prince did tonight on American Idol.
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Doesn't Stevie Wonder's 70's output rival/overshadow The Beatles 60's output? |
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CynicKill said: Doesn't Stevie Wonder's 70's output rival/overshadow The Beatles 60's output?
in terms of a run of consistently high quality albums, yes. But in terms of the scope of innovation and style and influence, no. | |
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Goddamn dimwit Beatles fans. | |
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This argument is more about the Beatles fans being so in love with their own love. The Beatles set unattainable standards for their fans so that no other music sounds as good to their fans. And what Beatles fans think MUST apply across the board. I know we Prince fans can be pretentious at times, but this takes the cake.
If what they say is true, then the Beach Boys destroyed pop. Because as I understand it, Pet Sounds informed Sgt. Pepper. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: If what they say is true, then the Beach Boys destroyed pop. Because as I understand it, Pet Sounds informed Sgt. Pepper. Not as much as people think, and Brian wilson said Rubber Soul was part of his inspiration for Pet Sounds anyway | |
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jacktheimprovident said: namepeace said: If what they say is true, then the Beach Boys destroyed pop. Because as I understand it, Pet Sounds informed Sgt. Pepper. Not as much as people think, and Brian wilson said Rubber Soul was part of his inspiration for Pet Sounds anyway Bob Dylan informed Rubber Soul...therefore Dylan destroyed pop. Weren't the monkees "pop" How about the cowsills the osmonds the jackson 5 menuda pop is just a label | |
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PurpleRein said: jacktheimprovident said: Not as much as people think, and Brian wilson said Rubber Soul was part of his inspiration for Pet Sounds anyway Bob Dylan informed Rubber Soul...therefore Dylan destroyed pop. Dylan, the Byrds and Motown all informed Rubber Soul [Edited 5/25/06 13:10pm] | |
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Let's put an end to this...Pop destroyed itself!
tA  Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Let's put an end to this...Pop destroyed itself!
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 I do not believe pop destroyed itself. I think pop evolved into other things, the public's tastes changed, culture and mores of the world changed..... Food for thought, that is, and it has the potential to be a healthy and rigorous conversation...  "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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It could be that the Beatles demostrated how pop was supposed to be & maybe artists like Paula Abdul & Britney were the ones who killed it.
I dunno. | |
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cubic61052 said: theAudience said: Let's put an end to this...Pop destroyed itself!
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 I do not believe pop destroyed itself. I think pop evolved into other things, the public's tastes changed, culture and mores of the world changed..... Food for thought, that is, and it has the potential to be a healthy and rigorous conversation...  Well here I am making a blind stab at some humor and you want to get all philosophical. 
 I thought you were gonna start wearing these... ...anyway?
tA Tribal Disorder
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Two acts I could never get into: The Beatles and Miles Davis.
Both are considered the greatest of all time, but I just can't get into them. | |
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jacktheimprovident said: namepeace said: If what they say is true, then the Beach Boys destroyed pop. Because as I understand it, Pet Sounds informed Sgt. Pepper. Not as much as people think, and Brian wilson said Rubber Soul was part of his inspiration for Pet Sounds anyway I can buy that. But the point still is, that the Beatles aren't the end-all and be-all of pop music. And it's colossally silly for Beatles fans -- or fans of ANY artist -- to even imply as such. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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theAudience said: cubic61052 said: I do not believe pop destroyed itself. I think pop evolved into other things, the public's tastes changed, culture and mores of the world changed..... Food for thought, that is, and it has the potential to be a healthy and rigorous conversation... Well here I am making a blind stab at some humor and you want to get all philosophical.
I thought you were gonna start wearing these......anyway?
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 I felt compelled to try to impress you.....with your brother's credentials, I wanted to make sure I lived up to your "philosophically" high standards...  Please don't revoke my Mensa membership!!!
Gotta go to the car and get my shades....  ....do you think I will look at all odd wearing them in my office?"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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cubic61052 said: Gotta go to the car and get my shades....
....do you think I will look at all odd wearing them in my office?It'll be a'ight. Like Starchild said, "Let me put on my sunglasses here so I can see what I'm doing." 
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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theAudience said: cubic61052 said: Gotta go to the car and get my shades....
....do you think I will look at all odd wearing them in my office?It'll be a'ight. Like Starchild said, "Let me put on my sunglasses here so I can see what I'm doing."
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 "Well I'm heavenly blessed and worldly wise I'm a peeping tom techie with x-ray eyes Things are going great, and they're only getting better..... The future's so bright I gotta wear shades" Timbuk3 
Sorry, guys, we deviated from the subject....  "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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thats stupid..
but i haven't heard much that even gets close to some of their music.. | |
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Beatles...no depth. I've no real emotional attachment to their music. Stevie Wonder on the other hand...genius. | |
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doeineffect said: Two acts I could never get into: The Beatles and Miles Davis.
Both are considered the greatest of all time, but I just can't get into them.  "Todo está bien chévere" Stevie | |
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WildheartXXX said: Beatles...no depth. I've no real emotional attachment to their music. Stevie Wonder on the other hand...genius.
True. The Beatles were very profolic song-writers but apart from some of their songs, I don't hear much depth in their songs at all. Give me songs from Motown any day, which imo carry more depth and emotion.. [Edited 5/26/06 10:51am] | |
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whatsgoingon said: WildheartXXX said: Beatles...no depth. I've no real emotional attachment to their music. Stevie Wonder on the other hand...genius.
True. The Beatles were very profolic song-writers but apart from some of their songs, I don't hear much depth in their songs at all. Give me songs from Motown any day, which imo carry more depth and emotion.. [Edited 5/26/06 10:51am] It's one thing to say you don't like the Beatles, but to say their songs have no depth is just absurd. It's like saying "I don't like AC/DC" vs. "AC/DC was such a weak soft rock band" | |
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theAudience said: Let's put an end to this...Pop destroyed itself!
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 There's a band called Pop Will Eat Itself.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: theAudience said: Let's put an end to this...Pop destroyed itself!
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http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 There's a band called Pop Will Eat Itself. How prophetic. 
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i didn't realize pop had been destroyed. it seems to be alive and doing quite well, in fact.
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jacktheimprovident said: whatsgoingon said: True. The Beatles were very profolic song-writers but apart from some of their songs, I don't hear much depth in their songs at all. Give me songs from Motown any day, which imo carry more depth and emotion.. [Edited 5/26/06 10:51am] It's one thing to say you don't like the Beatles, but to say their songs have no depth is just absurd. It's like saying "I don't like AC/DC" vs. "AC/DC was such a weak soft rock band" I think its all about where it hits you. Their music doesn't hit my gut at all. | |
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