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Reply #60 posted 05/20/06 3:16pm

CinisterCee

jerseykrs said:

CinisterCee said:



I can't get into him. confused



Yeah, he's hit or miss with most people.

What's your view on MC Paul Berman Cin?

I think that cat is INSANE!


Paul Barman too corny for my tastes. I appreciate your ears though!

Do you like Edan?
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Reply #61 posted 05/20/06 3:20pm

jerseykrs

CinisterCee said:

jerseykrs said:




Yeah, he's hit or miss with most people.

What's your view on MC Paul Berman Cin?

I think that cat is INSANE!


Paul Barman too corny for my tastes. I appreciate your ears though!

Do you like Edan?



hahah, it's pretty crazy how he rhymes though.

Edan is FUCKING DOPE!!!!!

Checke out this cat outta Edmonton, he does the beats and rhymes....

http://profile.myspace.co...D=76418197
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Reply #62 posted 05/20/06 3:28pm

CinisterCee

jerseykrs said:

CinisterCee said:



Paul Barman too corny for my tastes. I appreciate your ears though!

Do you like Edan?



hahah, it's pretty crazy how he rhymes though.

Edan is FUCKING DOPE!!!!!

Checke out this cat outta Edmonton, he does the beats and rhymes....

http://profile.myspace.co...D=76418197


You've heard of Cadence Weapon????? smile Crazy. He's like an Alberta rapper to me.
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Reply #63 posted 05/20/06 3:56pm

jerseykrs

CinisterCee said:

jerseykrs said:




hahah, it's pretty crazy how he rhymes though.

Edan is FUCKING DOPE!!!!!

Checke out this cat outta Edmonton, he does the beats and rhymes....

http://profile.myspace.co...D=76418197


You've heard of Cadence Weapon????? smile Crazy. He's like an Alberta rapper to me.


hahaha, dude, I'm hip to all sorts of shit son.
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Reply #64 posted 05/20/06 3:59pm

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CinisterCee said:

vainandy said:

"I Like The Way You Move" by Outkast and "Feel Good" by The Gorillaz. That's about all.


There has been more uptempo rap cuts this decade than there was in the 90s though.


I don't know about that. In the 1990s, there was hip house for a little while. There was also the Miami bass scene with groups like The 2 Live Crew, Quad City DJ's, 95 South, Dis N Dat. I was into stuff like that for a while in the 1990s and a lot of house music that I heard only in clubs. If I go in the two clubs today that I used to frequent, in the black club, the songs never get past midtempo and in the white club, the music has turned to techno or trance.

Do you like Missy at all?


I've never liked her music. I've heard one song in the club that's decent. I think she samples "Clear" in it.

A lot of the stuff I listened to by rappers in the 1990s was sampled music but after hearing "Planet Rock" and "Egypt, Egypt" sampled in every way imaginable, it soon got old. When people first started sampling, I thought it was very creative how they mixed only short snips of various songs into their one song. It was like listening to a mix. When the samples started becoming the actual rythm and provided the actual background music of the songs, then I got bored with it.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #65 posted 05/20/06 4:08pm

CinisterCee

jerseykrs said:

CinisterCee said:



You've heard of Cadence Weapon????? smile Crazy. He's like an Alberta rapper to me.


hahaha, dude, I'm hip to all sorts of shit son.


Clearly! smile
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Reply #66 posted 05/20/06 4:09pm

CinisterCee

It's cool, vainandy.
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Reply #67 posted 05/21/06 8:33pm

AquafineDream

namepeace said:

krazykid18 said:

LOL@ this person telling me get lyrics,is this how u judge rappers you read there lyrics, then all these wordsmith underground rappers who make nosense must be your favorite rappers too. LISTEN to the songs, dont read no lyrics.If you want songs search for them, trust me 50 Cent is a monster and can get very lyrical when he wants too, cop his true first LP Power Of Dollar, or 50 Cent is the future


No, I listen to lyrical content. Reading them also helps.

What did I say? Fitty rode the track lovely. But the lyrics are average. The beat made the song.

"wordsmith underground rappers who make nonsense" . . . wow. I guess you're not a fan of complex, substantive lyricism in your hip-hop, which tells me all I need to know about your level of "knowledge."
I'd much rather be an aficionado of the true underground hip-hop that a rider of hit-pop MCs.

And if you're so confident Fitty can hold his own on the mic, link a song, post some lyrics, do SOMETHING. I've given you a chance to make your case. I said reasonable minds could disagree, but you couldn't accept that. And you've done everything but respond to the challenge.



They're singles, aren't they?

"Many Men" is weak compared to "Made You Look." "In Da Club" is hotter than "Change Clothes," but that's because of Dre. Fitty is an average MC. "Wanksta" is better lyrically than "In Da Club."

Fitty ain't even in Jay-Z's league. Your even suggesting as such speaks volumes about your hip-hop IQ.

50 and Tupac arent the same are even remotely alike, people always suck Tupac off like he was great on the mic, he was average also, Tupac was a wanna be Ice mixed with Chuck D, and just another person who rarely listens to rap and calls everybody a fake tupac


Fitty name-drops 'Pac in the cut, son. His whole schtick has been going for the same ambivalent superhero street poet who is the target of assassins, and celebrates the life while mourning it.

I'm no real fan of 'Pac either. After 2PACOLYPSE Now and Strictly for My N.I.G.G.A.Z. he let the "Thug Life" motif consume him. But he was better than Fitty will ever be.

You got one thing right. I don't buy or consume much hit-pop like you.

But realize something, youngster. I've forgotten more hip-hop than you'll ever know.
[Edited 5/19/06 9:20am]






Somebody just got OWNED.
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Reply #68 posted 05/21/06 8:49pm

krazykid18

AquafineDream said:

namepeace said:



Fitty name-drops 'Pac in the cut, son. His whole schtick has been going for the same ambivalent superhero street poet who is the target of assassins, and celebrates the life while mourning it.

I'm no real fan of 'Pac either. After 2PACOLYPSE Now and Strictly for My N.I.G.G.A.Z. he let the "Thug Life" motif consume him. But he was better than Fitty will ever be.

You got one thing right. I don't buy or consume much hit-pop like you.

But realize something, youngster. I've forgotten more hip-hop than you'll ever know.
[Edited 5/19/06 9:20am]






Somebody just got OWNED.


How did somebody get owned, if somebody wants to see how nice a rapper is by reading his lyrics, then go ahead, but you are missing the best part of the music. namepeace already has a bias against 50 Cent and commercial rap,he feels inderground MC's are nice when there ARE SO MUCH GARBAGE UNDERGROUND MC's than good MC's and once did any underground MC becomes mainstream all of sudden he is wack he never changes his style at all but he is considered wack(i.e. 50 Cent) so it aint worth argueing.

And the complex raps, i am a fan of complex rap concept, but there is a huge reason why underground MC's never blow up when u say stupid shit about how your lyrical skills can move the world's axis and then you sound like you were reading the dictionary and finding every big word you can use to put it in your lyrics just to show how complex your raps are, that aint complex when nobody understands what you or any point you are saying you lost your point.

And you might have forgotten more rap than you i consumed, but it also shows you are lost in the times and the ages, and maybe he needs to start listening to some other outlets of music, to call 50 Cent average and not call Tupac an average MC aint right at all.
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Reply #69 posted 05/21/06 8:50pm

AquafineDream

You sound like such a fucking idiot.
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Reply #70 posted 05/21/06 9:08pm

krazykid18

AquafineDream said:

You sound like such a fucking idiot.



WISEMAN TOLD ME DONT ARGUE WITH FOOLS BECAUSE PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET CAN'T TELL WHO IS WHO
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Reply #71 posted 05/23/06 2:00pm

namepeace

krazykid18 said:

Aq

How did somebody get owned, if somebody wants to see how nice a rapper is by reading his lyrics, then go ahead, but you are missing the best part of the music. namepeace already has a bias against 50 Cent and commercial rap,he feels inderground MC's are nice when there ARE SO MUCH GARBAGE UNDERGROUND MC's than good MC's and once did any underground MC becomes mainstream all of sudden he is wack he never changes his style at all but he is considered wack(i.e. 50 Cent) so it aint worth argueing.

And the complex raps, i am a fan of complex rap concept, but there is a huge reason why underground MC's never blow up when u say stupid shit about how your lyrical skills can move the world's axis and then you sound like you were reading the dictionary and finding every big word you can use to put it in your lyrics just to show how complex your raps are, that aint complex when nobody understands what you or any point you are saying you lost your point.

And you might have forgotten more rap than you i consumed, but it also shows you are lost in the times and the ages, and maybe he needs to start listening to some other outlets of music, to call 50 Cent average and not call Tupac an average MC aint right at all.


Okay, I was a little hard on a cat. But here are a few things to consider.

- I said I liked at least 2 Fitty songs . . . "In Da Club" and "Wanksta."

- I called him an average MC, not a wack MC. My problems with Fitty have more to do with the image he's cultivating rather than his work.

- I asked you to prove me wrong. I'm willing to reconsider if you recommend some hot Fitty tracks.

- I have a bias against the neo-minstrelsy. I have a bias against MCs who are straight-up a-- on the mic. I have bias against making hip-hop about rims, cognac, studio mobbin', and gals. I have no problems with so-called "commercial rap." I even enjoy some of it. Take a look at my list.

- Many if not most "underground" MCs are garbage because most would-be MCs can't rhyme.

- I DO have a preference for hip-hop of backinaday and current underground hip-hop. Because they created new dimensions for the genre. For every NWA, Too Short, Geto Boys or 2 Live Crew there was Brand Nubian, ATCQ, Jungle Brothers, X-Clan or PE. Now, you have to search harder to find those kinds of artists that can keep hip-hop substantive and fresh.

- I could be lost in the times, hey, maybe this is your "day." But don't sell the underground short. Acts like Little Brother, MF Doom, De La Soul, Common, Madlib, Kweli, Mos Def, etc. who don't necessarily sell a lot of records make tracks that are hot to def.

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