Weren't you the same person, krazykid, who criticized Missy Elliott for HER lyrics in my "Busta Rhymes" thread? Now you're saying judge by the music and not the rapping?

Common

"The Light"

Not to mention tons of great Reggaton songs lately...

Daddy Yankee - Gasolina, Rompe
Calle 13 - Atrevete te te
Malverde - Mi Palabra
Don Omar
Tito El Bambino
Wisin Y Yandel

Rap ain't goin' a DAMN where...

people always suck Tupac off like he was great on the mic, he was average also, Tupac was a wanna be Ice mixed with Chuck D

Mara said:

I know Bombay Rockers. Me and my band (Swami) headlined at the MTV Style Awards in Mumbai last October, they performed there as well. Had a few drinks with them back at the hotel as well, friendly guys.

there isnt a bad song on Get Rich Or Die Trying.

LOL@ this person telling me get lyrics,is this how u judge rappers you read there lyrics, then all these wordsmith underground rappers who make nosense must be your favorite rappers too. LISTEN to the songs, dont read no lyrics.If you want songs search for them, trust me 50 Cent is a monster and can get very lyrical when he wants too, cop his true first LP Power Of Dollar, or 50 Cent is the future

are Made You Look and HOVA commercial songs, nope if you want to compare Made You Look to Many Men that is a valid reason but compare Nastradamus or Braveheart Party to In Da Club, or compare Change CLothes or One of Jay-z many lame singles he has released in his time.

50 and Tupac arent the same are even remotely alike, people always suck Tupac off like he was great on the mic, he was average also, Tupac was a wanna be Ice mixed with Chuck D, and just another person who rarely listens to rap and calls everybody a fake tupac

you got it wrong, this guy told me to post lyrics, i said listen to the song so you can understand the beat and the lyrics if u jusge rap just by the lyrics you read and not about how the beat goes to the lyrics, then you are just reading, and not feeling the song, some people don't have to be so overpower lyrically to be a great lyricist.

Anyone here have any opinions on Lyrics Born? My sister had his 2003 album, and I remember the song "Callin Out" was sort of popular. I really loved this song. (and others from that album)

Revolution said:

Reggaeton isnt rap, that is a hispanic form of music.

krazykid18 said:

No, I listen to lyrical content. Reading them also helps.

What did I say? Fitty rode the track lovely. But the lyrics are average. The beat made the song.

"wordsmith underground rappers who make nonsense" . . . wow. I guess you're not a fan of complex, substantive lyricism in your hip-hop, which tells me all I need to know about your level of "knowledge."

I'd much rather be an aficionado of the true underground hip-hop that a rider of hit-pop MCs.

And if you're so confident Fitty can hold his own on the mic, link a song, post some lyrics, do SOMETHING. I've given you a chance to make your case. I said reasonable minds could disagree, but you couldn't accept that. And you've done everything but respond to the challenge.



They're singles, aren't they?

"Many Men" is weak compared to "Made You Look." "In Da Club" is hotter than "Change Clothes," but that's because of Dre. Fitty is an average MC. "Wanksta" is better lyrically than "In Da Club."

Fitty ain't even in Jay-Z's league. Your even suggesting as such speaks volumes about your hip-hop IQ.



Fitty name-drops 'Pac in the cut, son. His whole schtick has been going for the same ambivalent superhero street poet who is the target of assassins, and celebrates the life while mourning it.

I'm no real fan of 'Pac either. After 2PACOLYPSE Now and Strictly for My N.I.G.G.A.Z. he let the "Thug Life" motif consume him. But he was better than Fitty will ever be.

You got one thing right. I don't buy or consume much hit-pop like you.

But realize something, youngster. I've forgotten more hip-hop than you'll ever know.
[Edited 5/19/06 9:20am]

minneapolisgenius said:

Yes! Lyrics Born is definitely noteworthy!

She said he puts on a really fun show.

krazykid18 said:

Rap is Hip Hop...Reggaeton is latin Hip Hop...just because the
words are a different language don't mean it's not rap.
Hip Hop is a culture...just check out some of those videos and you'll
see that it's all the same.

squiddyren said:

you got it wrong, this guy told me to post lyrics, i said listen to the song so you can understand the beat and the lyrics if u jusge rap just by the lyrics you read and not about how the beat goes to the lyrics, then you are just reading, and not feeling the song, some people don't have to be so overpower lyrically to be a great lyricist.

Kool Moe Dee said one of the best lyrical lines ever and it was so simple:

I NEVER HAD TO RUN FROM THE KU KLUX KLAN/ AND I SURE I NEVER HAVE TO RUN FROM A BLACK MEN/

this line is so simple but so nice and lyrical and the way he delivered it was crazy.

"I Like The Way You Move" by Outkast and "Feel Good" by The Gorillaz. That's about all.

krazykid18 said:

Actually KK18 Moe Dee's line goes:


I NEVER EVER RAN FROM THE KU KLUX KLAN/ AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO RUN FROM A BLACK MAN/ CAUSE THAT'S..... SELF DESTRUCTION..... YOUR HEADED FOR SELF DESTRUCTION



I feel Rap is all about the lyric's, the best rapper's can hold your attention with what they got to say. Kane, LL, KRS, Rakim, Chuck,Melle Mel,Certain Members of the WU-Tang, Nas, Hova,Slim Shady, Ras Kass, Scarface and other rappers of that caliber make a beat with the rhymes they spit while all a weak rapper has going for them on some songs is a beat. If I wanted to just hear a beat I'd turn on a JAMES BROWN or Parliment Funkadelic record, that's where alot of the beats originate from.
[Edited 5/20/06 14:20pm]

vainandy said:

There has been more uptempo rap cuts this decade than there was in the 90s though.

Do you like Missy at all?

Aesop Rock

jerseykrs said:

I can't get into him.