alxndrstff said:

...its not that different at all...sounds pretty much the same...

...and a good point from one of the earlier posts is that RHCP's rise to the top came well after P had already ruled....and the music scene was pushing away from mainstream genres...this was the period of Nirvana and Pearl Jam as well...

..I like to think that 20 years from now we'll still be talkin bout P's music...hopefully listening to it and enjoying yet another rebirth, akin to the Stones coming out of mothballs....only we, his fanbase, can keep the "gospel" going....

They're doing much more promotion themselves. Everytime they release a new album, I see them on several german tv shows, giving interviews, playing live, the same on german radio channels. I've also seen several concerts on tv, mostly from festivals and promogigs. They're not sitting on recorded live material like prince, they allow everyone to broadcast their stuff.

Because The Red Hot Chili Peppers are a teen audience -oriented band (have always been), with a musical style that hardly can be described as sophisticated or mature to begin with, regardless of some sporadic experimentation or image alterations like the "Warped" video. However, Prince's appeal is still that his material represents CLASSIC funk/R&B/rock. The same thing with George Clinton and the P-funk phenomenon - even if they are the kings of foolishness they actually, not only represent but present that classic sound (for they were the originators of course). The RHCP sound is distinctive, but it feels just intuitively wrong to call it "classic", because it is obviously aesthetically speaking substandard compared to proper funk music or even proper rock singer / songwriter -based stuff.

It's just not music that should be taken seriously. You know, most songs on any P-funk albums are humoristic as well, they've started out often as jokes, but you know you have to take them seriously on a completely different level that the RHCP could never manage to reach.

Novabreaker said:

Spoken like someone who has never listened to a Chili Pepper record, especially the new one. Sorry, but you don't know what the heck you're talking about.

thebige said:

exactly, that was a load of pretentious BS!

thebige said:

Ok. I obviously don't. You are one-hundred-percent right. How could I be so wrong?

Novabreaker said:

well, RHCP didn't get any teen-appeal until 'Under The Bridge', which was certainly not representative for the 'Blood Sugar Sex Magik'-album.....Listen to 'Mother's Milk', maybe you'll see what I mean!
And what's wrong with goofiness in music? George Clinton/Parliament have made some awesome music, try putting a 16 piece-band on stage and make it work..... George Clinton is also the one who 'discovered' the Peppers!

I think it's becuase Prince is strange.

If it wasn't for MJ's bad publicity, Prince's symbol years would still overshadow his current successes.

The last RHCP album I listened to (was subjected to it really) was actually the "By The Way" album. And no, I'm sorry, Kiedis' melodic motifs,lyrics and phrasing are anything but sophisticated to my ear. Lord knows Prince isn't the pinnacle of modern art either, but really, there is a good reason why The Red Hot Chili Peppers have always been one of the most popular bands amongst teenagers who have their own bands - alongside with Metallica and such. And teenagers who play in bands always have the most terrible taste in music anyway.

It's just a completely different approach to writing music, and it gathers teenagers very effectively. They can't get rid of it, maybe Frusciante can do it on his solo albums. But as long as Kiedis fronts that band...

And it was actually The Chili Peppers who contacted George Clinton, I believe.

Milty said:

Yeah, I've seen the Peppers at different stages of their career as well. The first time being at The Whiskey in the mid 80's with their o.g. guitarist Hillel Slovak, who to me, was their best guitarist. All of the early shows, they had TONS of energy. Maybe because all of their shows that I have seen has been in So. Cali, which is their hometown, so maybe they were throwing down because they were playing here.

Novabreaker said:

whatever, he produced one of their early albums which wasn't, I'm sorry to say, teen-appealing.....

Novabreaker said:

well, if you're judging on 'By The Way'.....
And we all know that Keidis isn't the best vocalist, his rapping is funnier & better. I don't see how his lyrics gather teens that easily, but yes, maybe easier than Prince's.....for many times I don't know what the fuck he's singing about.....
Listen to 'Stadium Arcadium'.....it's a return to form, it's fun & good, Flea & Frusciante at their best.....I wouldn't dare to say that '3121' is a return to form of Prince.....:

PurpleRein said:

Yeah I thought it sounded like shit too..

Maybe.
Just maybe
3121 sucks more than STADIUM ARCADIUM?

I don't know, but I just can't get into the Prince and haven't tried to check out the RHCP.

PFunkjazz said:

abierman said:

Or...maybe, just maybe, the midget just needs to start promoting 3121...

murph said:

could be, but 'Stadium Arcadium' is a better album.... ....Prince, they're called 'guitar-solo's'.....

murph said:

It's way too late for that. Sucka hit #1 and fell like a rock in a pond.

Fool shoulda gone on American Idol

The Chili's (to me) have just lost their edge. I used to love them going back to "Freaky Stley". They're G rated family entertainment now. They're letting Frusciante write everything so he won't quit again. I think a "Jehovah worshipping" Prince has more edge than The Chili's these days.

No way dudes, the RHCP s rockinfreakopotamous. I have all their albums and they were stars before 91, there first album came from 1983 with classics like Get up and Jump, Real Men don't kill coyotes and then the magnificence of Freaky Styley (1985) with gems like If u want me to stay. This where they collaborated with George Clinton long before Prince rediscovered him.
87s Uplift Mofo Party Plan is great too with Fight like a brave and the secret song "Party on your Pussy " These early albums are great drug fuelled funky punky stuff. The Chilis where like White Princes on drugs.
They hit in 89 with the Mothers milk album after the death of Hillel Slovak the group gave up drugs and cleaned themselves up. Added new guitarist John Frusciante and Chad on drums they rocked. Higher ground got to number 4 and then they were stars. Blood sex sugar magik was the big breakthru it was like their Purple Rain whereas Mothers Milk was the 1999

However they went off with One Hot Minute, a very silly pop/ grunge album and alternative skits like pea and only a few gems like Aeroplane and My Friends. Also Frusciante had left and Dave Navarro was in . But then 1999 they came back with Claifornioacation and Frusicante and Chad were back. This was a great album and By the way continued it on, especailly the Zephyr song the best drug song ever made (Yes I think they are using again).
Despite the music, theyve always used gimmicks such as socks on cocks dressing up as lightbulbs on stage, funny videos, and the funny Funky Monks video where every five seconds one of then sneaks off and has a wank in the deserted mansion they are recording in.

Seriously this is a great group and you cant help but love them.

SPYZFAN1 said:

Did I hear someone say 'Freaky Styley'???






And I'm proud!!!




http://www.youtube.com/wa...y%20styley

SPYZFAN1 said:

I don't really know about Chilis to date cuz I'm not a keen follower, but Prince has pretty much sucked it up on TRC,MUSICOLOGY and 3121.

I just listened to Stadium Arcadium today. I thought it was only OK, and I was really excited about the cd. The Peppers are still good, but I liked their earlier work better. To me, one of the best Pepper's cd's is Mother's Milk, then Blood Sugar Sex Magic, and MoFo Party Plan.


Prince's 3121 is much better. I can listen to it non-stop. I just don't think he's into promoting stuff as much anymore except for touring a few tv performances. Prince is a legend. There's is just no comparison even though I love the Peppers and admire Flea, John, and Chad. Anthony is a good frontman and lyricist, but the other three are much more talented.

But Prince well...He's up there with the greats.

"Party On Your Pussy"..One of my faves! Just a nasty ass song through and through. The solo by Mr. Slovak is straight out of the "Eddie Hazel Handbook".

sneadhearn said:

UM

PRINCE COULD HANG