SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I know "Catherine" and "The Dancer" is definitely in my top 5. I love her darker, brooding songs. Picking favorites for anything is hard for me

"This Mess We're in" and "Kamikaze" are my favs from SFTCSFTS. I never got why fans hated this album either.

i thought 'to bring you my love' was plenty polished, and i still loved it. i didn't like 'songs from the city' very much, because it wasn't the PJ i liked. her first three albums were so over-the-top and aggressive and campy and mad (in both definitions of the word), and then this somber little thing (relatively speaking) comes out and she's all excited to tell us about how cool it is to live in new york city, when at the time this album came out, i was FED UP with living in new york city ....i was a little sour to this album.

maybe now if i gave it another chance, i'd like it.

AnckSuNamun said:

I'm really drawn to that side of her and those 2 songs are excellent examples, although for me Leah would be a better pick.

Did you see her walkin?
Did she come around here sir?
Black Hair Brown Eyes....my beautiful Leah

She was always so needing
said "I have no one"
even as I held her....she went out looking for someone
looking for someone, looking for someone

She only had nightmares
and her sadness never lifted
and slowly over the years
her lovely face twisted

did she come around here sir?
I swear you would remember.
Black hair brown eyes,
Late September

October

November

December

It never leaves my mind
The last words she said
"If I don't find it this time,
Then I'm better off dead".

:dark:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

In all seriousness though, I thought you knew I was a musician.

All this love for the Peejmeister has me all .

I have a lot more to add...

AnckSuNamun said:

KAMIKAZE!!!

"Kamikaze you can't touch me!

Kamikaze, you don't judge me!

Oh hell yes!!! I don't understand the contempt for this album either. There are so many amazing songs.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

another good one.....it's kinda short though. She had a couple of short songs on Is This Desire. Really that whole album is kinda moody and dark.....like "Joy"....the way she sings (or screams) in it makes me wanna cry. The live version of it sounds completely different from the album version though. It sounds almost like a grunge version. That album reminds me of Tori's "From the Choirgirl".

Anx said:

See, I love her early shit and the drama that came with it but for me, I was really at a place in my life to hear something like Horses in My Dreams. And to be honest, it felt good for once not to be worrying about whether this chick was gonna kill herself or not. I rather liked seeing a touch of healing enter her life, if nothing more than her being able to approach her "issues" without threatening to jump off a cliff

GangstaFam said:

guess we have lots to catch up on

AnckSuNamun said:

It was my love for Desire that had Gangsta convinced that I would love Choirgirl and he was right!!!

http://www.prince.org/msg/8/139226

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You'll never know how excited I was about this.

GangstaFam said:

Oh I understand how exciting it is when someone makes the connection you have to an artist. It's one of the most exciting things life has to offer!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

see, to me her early crazy stuff sounded like someone kind of laughing at their own sense of melodrama...kinda like she was saying, "yeah, i'm really angry about these things, and i look really fuckin' dumb when i get really angry, and i don't care!"

then she's all urbane and mannered and, as if that weren't enough, she's now a new york alternachick sucking on nat shermans. WTF?!

i kinda like "is this desire?" because i can hear a bit of nick cave influence on it...but i'm not big on any other PJ output post-"to bring you my love". it's just not the PJ i like.

Anx said:

I don't know. I never got the sense that she was laughing at her own melodrama. Some of her early shit really gives a sense of desolation.

I never really viewed Stories the way you did and thank God I didn't overanalyze it cuz I would have missed out on something wonderful. Desire is my favorite just because of the moodiness of it but there was something wonderful about her being a regular girl for a minute That's how I saw it anyway.

And she had already established that she was not about any of the things you loathed about what you saw her as with this album. You should cut the girl a little slack

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I think it just depends.

Early songs like "Dress", "Sheela-Na-Gig", "50 Foot Queenie" and "Me Jane" are loads of fun. They're loud and fast, but not tortured.

Stuff like "Legs", "Rub Til It Bleeds", "Hair" and a few others appear anguished, but the subject matter is almost hysterical once you dig into it. I mean, the whole Samson & Delilah thing in "Hair" totally cracks me up. She definitely had a sense of humor along with all the seriousness.

But then there's stuff like "Oh My Lover", "Missed", "Hardly Wait" and "Ecstasy" that truly are pained and exposed. I think she really loved fucking with conventions of storytelling, gender, feminism, and even alternative angst at that time. You didn't really know what to make of her, but I can see both sides of what you guys are saying. She seemed like the most hardcore rocker bitch and the most sarcastic smartass at the same time. This really came across in her documentary "Reeling" from '94.

"To Bring You My Love" on the other hand was a way for her to distance herself from the personality she had cultivated. She seemed like she was playing a character. And although the material she had at that time was even darker and freakier than what came before, it felt like she was playing dress-up. I know the look and the sound are nothing alike, but I think of this as being like her Ziggy/Aladdin Sane period. PJ appeared to live this exotic, decadent life, when really it was just her character's interpretation of this. I didn't take it too seriously.

In all fairness, the first thing I heard by her was "Rid Of Me" and it scared the shit out of me at first. The Steve Albini production, the concrete block power chords, her maniacal singing, the album cover...it all rubbed me the wrong way. A few months later, I was at one of her gigs and became a fan for life. I love it when she's abusively hard.

GangstaFam said:

When I came across that album I was like Thank God, someone can put it the way I feel it!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's still probably my favorite of her albums.

i will always enjoy singing along with the entire "to bring you my love" album in my cher voice. try it. it works perfectly.

Anx said:

What thread did you say you wanted to sing that last part of "2 Bring U My Love" to me? I was crackin up bigtime on that comment

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

the thing about people being scurred to meet you.

Anx said:

I totally pictured it ya know I want this to be my 4th of July surprise. Fuck the anthem, 2 bring you my love on the 4th!

Anx said:

the exact quote:

Anx said:

"Tarzan Vocals" so true!! that's what I love about that song is that primal shit at the end. She aint fuckin around

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:[quote]

Anx said:

first time i heard that shit, i was like "what's diamanda galas doing on a p.j. harvey album?!?!?" she is seriously channelling diamanda with that howl at the end, it's freaky to me still.

Anx said:

I have never heard this Diamanda chick. Now I'm interested That shit still gives me the chills too

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

you would LOVE diamanda, but you gotta be careful not to check out her experimental shit if you're looking for an intro. she has an album called "the singer" that kicks ass - blues standards and really dark gospel songs. she also did a trilogy of albums about the AIDS virus in the '80s and she's done a lot of work about the persecution of her greek ancestors and a lot of anti-death penalty statements, as well. she also happens to have one of the most freakishly wide vocal ranges of any modern vocalist...AND she accompanies herself on piano. the lady is not to be messed with!

Anx said:

OK, now I have to check this chick out. I will check out the Singer ASAP

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

her style is REALLY dark, be prepared...but you'll never hear a voice like hers anywhere else. her version of "gloomy sunday" on "the singer" is one of the most amazingly moving things i've ever heard...and if you ever get a chance to see her live, you'll feel every emotion you have in you, from anger to horniness to sadness to giddiness.