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PrintableAnx said: sextonseven said: Ya know what? If that cover was made thirty years from now and 50 never made another record then I'd agree with you, he's about as important as Peter Frampton. But it's all about now and you have to cover the present somehow. Nobody's bigger than 50 right now so he gets front row. nobody's bigger than 50 RIGHT NOW? if it were last summer or, better yet, the summer before, i'd agree with you. but right NOW? i'd say he's scarsely more relevant than justin timberlake right now. maybe i'm missing out on some big 50 cent 2006 revival, i'm not always up on such things... Okay, I should have been more specific and said 50 is the biggest RAPPER right now and "now" meaning the last few years. But with his video game, all the G-Unit side projects and guest appearances, I still stand by my statement that 50 is the most popular rapper among today's artists. Justin solo has accomplished nowhere near what 50 has. | |
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sextonseven said: Anx said: nobody's bigger than 50 RIGHT NOW? if it were last summer or, better yet, the summer before, i'd agree with you. but right NOW? i'd say he's scarsely more relevant than justin timberlake right now. maybe i'm missing out on some big 50 cent 2006 revival, i'm not always up on such things... Okay, I should have been more specific and said 50 is the biggest RAPPER right now and "now" meaning the last few years. But with his video game, all the G-Unit side projects and guest appearances, I still stand by my statement that 50 is the most popular rapper among today's artists. Justin solo has accomplished nowhere near what 50 has. maybe if 50, eminem and dre were all grouped together, it would have made a cute and slightly more relevant statement, at least as far as posterity is concerned. i think dre and eminem have both staked their places in pop history. 50 is a phenom with a flop movie, and it seems that rappers don't have much of a shelf life unless they go into film or television... | |
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blackguitaristz said: sextonseven said: I may be the only one, but I think 50 Cent really should be where he is. Both his solo albums have topped five million and he's the biggest rapper around today--bigger than Eminem, Nelly, etc. I mean, this isn't Mojo magazine, it's Rolling Stone and RS is supposed to be a current periodical. This cover is not about the greatest musicians in the history of rock 'n' roll. It's more about pop culture and where the magazine has been and where there are now. 50 Cent is where there are now (unfortunately). I do agree that Justin should NOT be there. *NSYNC made more of an impact with the boy band craze than Justin solo ever did. Everybody on here knows that the cover isn't just for the greatest rock and roll legends. That's obvious when you see cats like John Travolta and Johnny Depp. But, if musical legends weren't important, then why is the whole front row nothing but musical legends? Since it's more about pop culture and where it is NOW, then why not put Fiddy in the front row, along side Stefani. You know, so the magazine is all about TODAY and shit, replace Chuck Berry with Fiddy and replace Madonna with Gwen. It's about today, but it's also about yesterday at the same time. There has to be a balance. Btw, Madonna is just as much "today" as Gwen. | |
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sextonseven said: blackguitaristz said: Everybody on here knows that the cover isn't just for the greatest rock and roll legends. That's obvious when you see cats like John Travolta and Johnny Depp. But, if musical legends weren't important, then why is the whole front row nothing but musical legends? Since it's more about pop culture and where it is NOW, then why not put Fiddy in the front row, along side Stefani. You know, so the magazine is all about TODAY and shit, replace Chuck Berry with Fiddy and replace Madonna with Gwen. It's about today, but it's also about yesterday at the same time. There has to be a balance. Btw, Madonna is just as much "today" as Gwen. madonna was "today" in 1984 and 1993 and 1996 and.... | |
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Anx said: sextonseven said: Okay, I should have been more specific and said 50 is the biggest RAPPER right now and "now" meaning the last few years. But with his video game, all the G-Unit side projects and guest appearances, I still stand by my statement that 50 is the most popular rapper among today's artists. Justin solo has accomplished nowhere near what 50 has. maybe if 50, eminem and dre were all grouped together, it would have made a cute and slightly more relevant statement, at least as far as posterity is concerned. i think dre and eminem have both staked their places in pop history. 50 is a phenom with a flop movie, and it seems that rappers don't have much of a shelf life unless they go into film or television... Hey, the guy has great timing to be as big as he is when RS publishes their 1000th issue. I would also totally support Peter Frampton and Juice Newton being on the cover for the 250th (or whatever) issue in the 70s. | |
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Anx said: blackguitaristz said: Everybody on here knows that the cover isn't just for the greatest rock and roll legends. That's obvious when you see cats like John Travolta and Johnny Depp. But, if musical legends weren't important, then why is the whole front row nothing but musical legends? Since it's more about pop culture and where it is NOW, then why not put Fiddy in the front row, along side Stefani. You know, so the magazine is all about TODAY and shit, replace Chuck Berry with Fiddy and replace Madonna with Gwen. i understand that it's supposed to appeal to all generations from the baby boom on up to the post-TRL kiddies, but i also get the vibe that this illustration is meant to appeal to posterity, and not just the here and now (maybe an impossible feat). stefani and fiddy near the front would indeed be like putting frampton and juice newton near the front if this had come out in the '70s. Exactly. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Anx said: sextonseven said: Okay, I should have been more specific and said 50 is the biggest RAPPER right now and "now" meaning the last few years. But with his video game, all the G-Unit side projects and guest appearances, I still stand by my statement that 50 is the most popular rapper among today's artists. Justin solo has accomplished nowhere near what 50 has. maybe if 50, eminem and dre were all grouped together, it would have made a cute and slightly more relevant statement, at least as far as posterity is concerned. i think dre and eminem have both staked their places in pop history. 50 is a phenom with a flop movie, and it seems that rappers don't have much of a shelf life unless they go into film or television... That's why I mentioned N.W.A, cuz without them, there would be no Dre and therefore, it would be no M&M and definately no Fiddy. N.W.A caused much fuss when they came out and made a big ass splash with the rock media like Rolling Stone. They spawned all kinds of shit in rap and their style has been imitated to death and is STILL moving full steam ahead TODAY. Them putting N.W.A on the cover would have made sense for having Eminem and Fiddy there. To have Snoop way up in the corner somewhere, someone who has been in the game and who is way more popular with rap fans and mainstream folks alike, more so that 50. Snoop probably is, among mainstream fans, the general public, one of the most popular rappers out. And that's been the case for years. He's definately been the most visual, with movie roles from Training Day to Starsky and Hutch. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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lilgish said: The picture of Prince was fucked up!
Isn't it though?! What the hell was that about? Look, everybody in the world, including Rolling Stone, knows that Prince is and has been and will be forever known as a BONAFIDE musical icon. With that said, for them to purposely choose THAT picture of the man and place him in that spot is disgraceful. I rarely on here defend Prince, cuz I don't feel the need to. BUT, ain't no sense in me lying, when I first saw the cover and I first spoted Hendrix, I was relaxed cuz I dug where they placed Jimi. But right after that, after not being able to spot my cousin, I was like "I know they didn't fuck around and not include Prince on here.". After I saw that silly ass looking shot of him, which was too far back, I was like "This is some bullshit right here." And then I noticed where they placed Michael Jackson. Nah, that shit's not right either. With all the bad publicity MJ has gotten, it STILL doesn't change the fact that Mike is the biggest entertainer in the world and has been easily since 1982. If they're going to put Madonna in the front, then ya'll know good and well that Jackson should have been in the front. Prince DEFINATELY should have been in the second row alongside Bruce. Truth be told, while their granting Lennon with two pics, as huge as the J5 were, they too should have been included. The Jackson Five were too big and way too popular to not have them included. Having a pic of Mike doesn't have anything to do with the J5. Those are two seperate acts entirely and it should be seen as such. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: Anx said: maybe if 50, eminem and dre were all grouped together, it would have made a cute and slightly more relevant statement, at least as far as posterity is concerned. i think dre and eminem have both staked their places in pop history. 50 is a phenom with a flop movie, and it seems that rappers don't have much of a shelf life unless they go into film or television... That's why I mentioned N.W.A, cuz without them, there would be no Dre and therefore, it would be no M&M and definately no Fiddy. N.W.A caused much fuss when they came out and made a big ass splash with the rock media like Rolling Stone. They spawned all kinds of shit in rap and their style has been imitated to death and is STILL moving full steam ahead TODAY. Them putting N.W.A on the cover would have made sense for having Eminem and Fiddy there. To have Snoop way up in the corner somewhere, someone who has been in the game and who is way more popular with rap fans and mainstream folks alike, more so that 50. Snoop probably is, among mainstream fans, the general public, one of the most popular rappers out. And that's been the case for years. He's definately been the most visual, with movie roles from Training Day to Starsky and Hutch. From a design standpoint, it's more difficult to put a group on this type of cover as opposed to just one or two people that could represent the whole band. If Ice Cube and Dre were still making records, I could see them being there, but Cube is only doing movies now and Dre is strictly doing production. And as big as Snoop is/was, his albums have never reached the sales heights that 50's have. | |
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sextonseven said: blackguitaristz said: That's why I mentioned N.W.A, cuz without them, there would be no Dre and therefore, it would be no M&M and definately no Fiddy. N.W.A caused much fuss when they came out and made a big ass splash with the rock media like Rolling Stone. They spawned all kinds of shit in rap and their style has been imitated to death and is STILL moving full steam ahead TODAY. Them putting N.W.A on the cover would have made sense for having Eminem and Fiddy there. To have Snoop way up in the corner somewhere, someone who has been in the game and who is way more popular with rap fans and mainstream folks alike, more so that 50. Snoop probably is, among mainstream fans, the general public, one of the most popular rappers out. And that's been the case for years. He's definately been the most visual, with movie roles from Training Day to Starsky and Hutch. From a design standpoint, it's more difficult to put a group on this type of cover as opposed to just one or two people that could represent the whole band. If Ice Cube and Dre were still making records, I could see them being there, but Cube is only doing movies now and Dre is strictly doing production. And as big as Snoop is/was, his albums have never reached the sales heights that 50's have. Oh, o.k. Um, Ice Cube has a new album coming out this month. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: sextonseven said: From a design standpoint, it's more difficult to put a group on this type of cover as opposed to just one or two people that could represent the whole band. If Ice Cube and Dre were still making records, I could see them being there, but Cube is only doing movies now and Dre is strictly doing production. And as big as Snoop is/was, his albums have never reached the sales heights that 50's have. Oh, o.k. Um, Ice Cube has a new album coming out this month. His first in 6 years??? | |
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sextonseven said: blackguitaristz said: Oh, o.k. Um, Ice Cube has a new album coming out this month. His first in 6 years??? 'Nuff said. | |
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sextonseven said: sextonseven said: His first in 6 years??? 'Nuff said. As far as I'm concerned, it could have been his first in 15 years. I was just saying that he had a new album coming out, period. I could careless bigtime about how many albums 50 has sold compared to Snoop, or any other rapper. I know he has made his splash and more power to him. My thing is, just like Run DMC is on there, like they should be, N.W.A., or at least Dr.Dre, should have been on there. Cuz like I posted earlier, without Dre, u have no Snoop, no Eminem and no 50. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: DavidEye said: I agree,Donna really should have been included.She was the "Queen of Disco",arguably the most popular female artist of the late 70s.She took dance music to a whole new level.Without Donna,there would be no Madonna.Oh well,at least she appeared on the cover during her heyday:  There it is. did you ever buy this issue? It's from April 1978,a month before 'Thank God It's Friday' came out. | |
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Y'know, I've scoured over the cover five times already,
& I still can't find Donny Osmond. | |
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DavidEye said: blackguitaristz said: There it is. did you ever buy this issue? It's from April 1978,a month before 'Thank God It's Friday' came out. My mom got it for me. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Illustrator said: Y'know, I've scoured over the cover five times already,
& I still can't find Donny Osmond. That's valid as hell. Granted, u were probably being sarcastic, but him AND his sister should have been on there! Also, David Cassidy. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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