WildStyle said:

We'll have to agree to disagree I don't think MJ will be able to make a comeback.

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EmbattledWarrior said:

My God you hit it out of the ballpark with that murph. I actually stopped being a diehard fan because of the "KOP" title. I thought it was very arrogant and as I was becoming a diehard Prince fan, at the time I thought it was wrong. I understand it for the 80's but the fact that it HAD to be mentioned when you talked about MJ left a bad taste in my mouth.

Michael needs to get away from everything that makes him think he's the king of anything and just make an album from the heart. Unless all that's in his heart is "fight the media" and heal all the world's children". If that's the case, then stay in Bahrain and never make another tune again. Plus as long as he's trying to chase trends and make Thriller 2, he'll NEVER have the any kind of comeback success that he wants to have. He needs to be himself and that will bring success. I just don't know if he even know who he is.

WildStyle said:

I shudder at the thought of Janet singing Earth Song

Seriously, people have different views and opinions, stop pulling the other artist card on people just because they're a bigger fan of a certain artist.

WildStyle said:

Sales does not account for a full comeback though. He needs to get respect for his music and artistry from the media to have a true comeback.

Remember Invincible? Did it sell well, yes. Was it loved by critics and music goers, no.

jayaredee said:

The media slagged off every album after Off The Wall (changed there tune on Thriller after the sales). The critics have there darlings, and those they like to pan. Michael is that latter and has been for over 20 years.

Was Invincible loved by music goers? That's subjective. I certainly didn't love it. I liked it, that's it.

jayaredee said:

Actually if it sold well that would suggest music goers LOVED it, enough to buy it. So if they wanted to shell out money for it, it must not have been this massive widget people always joke about it being. I've heard a lot worse albums in my time. If they didn't, they would not have bought it.
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JasonStar said:

not really..I bought it but it's still crap to my ears..

as for the original question,

Can he still make a great album? yes I think he can
Can he still be the hottest artist out there? erm I dont think so

Krytonite said:

LOL! I'm FAR from pissed. What gave you that idea?

Rhondab said:

BINGO!

DarlingDiana said:

After reading that post, that exact same exclamation can be said for you.

WildStyle said:

Can you deal with the FACT that he sleeps in the bed with KIDS that aren't his?

JackieBlue said:

Exactly. Damn shame, too. Not just MJ, but some of his fans need to grow up, too.

DavidEye said:

And that's the saddest shit of all, ain't it?

WildStyle said:

Bullshit. His sales figures aren't what's keeping him in the limelight, it's his penchant for young boys which is exactly why he won't be able to achieve a true comeback. MJ's time has come and gone and ONLY MJ and some of his delusional fans think he can regain the "Thriller" years.

StoneCrib said:

Fine fine. You are correct about everything you say: MJ's time has truly come and gone and only delusional MJ fans think he can regain his "Thriller" years. Now can you at last stop posting the same things on every single damn thread and shut the fuck up, plz?

LightOfArt said:

I didn't think Invincible was that bad as people go on about. It was at the very most, decent.

I seriously don't know whether or not he can make a comeback, that all depends on many factors. He's gotta prove himself again, that's what i think.

Novabreaker said:

lol Boy! MJ fans ARE TOUCHY AS FUCK!

Sorry, sunshine, but I can post wherever the fuck I choose to here and you sure as hell have no say in the matter, so you can bitch and complain all you want until Bubbles comes back but you'll be wasting your time. Now, how you like dem apples?

Maybe the title of this thread should have a disclaimer, musically-speaking, is Michael Jackson capable of a comeback. Everyone is going to have an opinion about his eccentricity, image, legal troubles, etc., but I wonder outside of all that is Michael Jackson capable of a comeback based upon his music alone.

This type of thread just turn into the same old discussion, argument, about everything concerning Michael, but his music.

Just an idea.

Isel said:

I challenge the haters to play a game. It is called, "Can you go one thread without mentioning the "allegations" (BS) *Cough Cough* or Michael's face?" I doubt it.

This kind of thread always bring out the peeps who look upon MJ with disdain or those who can only look upon MJ as KOP and hang onto his achievements through his record sales.

whatsgoingon said:

You are correct...you rarely get the in-between

Isel said:

But you see, you can't have one without the other because his personal problems are a BIG part of his musical problems. You will NEVER be able to separate MJ the singer from the molestation and freaky behavior. Never.

JasonStar said:

That's dumb, because that's like saying his personal issues don't have anything to do with his money/music issues. Sorry, MJ, fans, you don't get to have it like that. You can't act like the man doesn't have problems and then ask people to SOLELY focus on his music. Life doesn't work that way. At least not for those of us that choose to live in the real world.

I know it's frustrating that the allegations and his appearance always come up when trying to discuss Michael's music or career but I think that just goes to whow how much his personal life has overshadowed his music.

StoneCrib said:

How awesome.

For starters, I'm far from being an "MJ fan" - if you'd as much as bothered to follow what kind of musical tastes the regulars at this forum have you would have noticed I am pretty far from removed from even being a pop music fan. Or how about even bothering to read this very thread? I was the first to post on this thread about Michael in a sarcastic tone, but I'm sure sarcasm isn't necessarily your cup of tea. However, I myself post about Michael Jackson on these threads often because there is far much more to discuss about him than some other artists I know next to nothing about or have very little interest in.

Basically what you are employing here are nothing more than schoolyard bullying tactics and for crying out loud, over the recent times we've seen these posts of yours on a number of Michael Jackson threads. And let me just tell you they don't exactly shine of maturity. The number of repeated and successive posts that you constantly make aren't just boring to read, they are also very much against basic posting etiquette. For instance a few posts above you made SEVEN successive posts, and all of them very short on any information.

Novabreaker said:

Awww, I hate to burst your "Org Bubble," but I'm not here to "follow people's musical tastes", in other words, get over your "Org Regular" self and move on to something more constructive. What a damn shame.

And um, this is my FIRST MJ thread I've ever posted on since being a member here. You, my friend, may need to really get a grip on yourself and who you decide to 'stalk' before you start trying to "speak" on anybody. Just a sad case.

StoneCrib said:

I think the tone of this post speaks for itself how seriously we should take you. Funny, I could have just sworn it was you on many other Michael Jackson threads before. My apologies, now go away.

StoneCrib said:

You tell 'em StoneCrib. You're one of the sanest voices on here. I like MJ, but some of his fans are so delusional and short sighted it's actually embarrassing to hear them speak.

Novabreaker said:

Well, it's good to see that you can crawl to muster up an apology. Glad you noticed your mistake, too bad it won't be the last.

whoknows said:

And now you're even seeing some "MJ sympathizers" take up for him. What a shame.