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Printablefunkpill said: StoneCrib said: Yeah, but my comments had nothign to do with "doing things for yourself" it was about stop blaming the game for your actions when you're grown enough to know what the game is all about. And Malcolm woulda shitted all over Rash Limbaugh. It woulda been a massacre. Rush would've needed more drugs after dealing with Malcolm...   !Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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StoneCrib said: babynoz said: I think it's been established that we're talking Malcolm post-Mecca. No, no one said which Malcolm, some just suggested which one. No one settled on which one. My speech was from the Pre-Mecca El-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz. And your speech was right on point too. I still have some of Malcolm's pre-Mecca speeches on vinyl and yours sounds just like him. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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babynoz said: StoneCrib said: No, no one said which Malcolm, some just suggested which one. No one settled on which one. My speech was from the Pre-Mecca El-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz. And your speech was right on point too. I still have some of Malcolm's pre-Mecca speeches on vinyl and yours sounds just like him. Thanx, bro. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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What did he think about Elivs? | |
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wonder505 said: don't you LEARN about someone before you pass judgements.
[Edited 4/22/06 8:57am] LOL, all I can do is laugh after the many comments made about MJ in this thread. People need to learn about MJ before passing judgement. I flip the tables round and direct the negativity onto Malcom C, and suddenly everyone hits the roff. Think about it. [Edited 4/22/06 18:06pm] | |
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DarlingDiana said: wonder505 said: don't you LEARN about someone before you pass judgements.
[Edited 4/22/06 8:57am] LOL, all I can do is laugh after the many comments made about MJ in this thread. People need to learn about MJ before passing judgement. I flip the tables round and direct the negativity onto Malcom C, and suddenly everyone hits the roff. Think about it. [Edited 4/22/06 18:06pm] So let's see...He hates his face so he destroys it trying to look like a white Disney cartoon character along with his penchant for little white boys. Yeah, well, that just about sums up MJ. Any questions? No? Ok. Next! Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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StoneCrib said: babynoz said: And your speech was right on point too. I still have some of Malcolm's pre-Mecca speeches on vinyl and yours sounds just like him. Thanx, bro. that would be Sista  Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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babynoz said: StoneCrib said: Thanx, bro. that would be Sista Damn, I'm ALWAYS doing that here! Am I a sexist? LOL! Thanx, SISTA!  Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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DarlingDiana said: wonder505 said: don't you LEARN about someone before you pass judgements.
[Edited 4/22/06 8:57am] LOL, all I can do is laugh after the many comments made about MJ in this thread. People need to learn about MJ before passing judgement. I flip the tables round and direct the negativity onto Malcom C, and suddenly everyone hits the roff. Think about it. [Edited 4/22/06 18:06pm] Umm, you flipped the tables by making an inaccurate and false statement about Malcolm X by which I corrected by stating a historical fact, for which you obviously knew nothing about. If you are going to flip tables, flip it with the truth and not with false statements for the sake of detering negativity towards someone else. If you feel people made comments about MJ that are not right, then you reply with the truth, that's all. | |
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StoneCrib said: Oh, THAT'S an easy 1 - There's only ONE answer for that question:
I can even here Malcolm's speech about MJ: MALCOLM X ON MICHAEL JACKSON (In that haunting Malcolm X voice of his): Never has there ever been a more embarrassing "so-called Negro" such as this man. He's captivated by the white man's beauty and the white man's vices and the white man's women. His face alone is a disgrace to Africa and every African that died for him to have the right to be who he wants to be. Sadly he IS who wants to be. He sings for the white man. He dances for the white man. He wants to BE the white man. Yes. That same white man that enslaved our people and that continue to oppress our people to this very day. Yes. Our people. His people...or what he USED to claim as HIS people. Young Mr. Jackson needs to recognize the beauty of being black and all that is Black. Unfortunately...I say unfortunately, he no longer even recognizes himself. This does apply to Michael as he currently is and that is the sad aspect about the whole situation. I hope he eventually wakes up and gets his life together. Such a great talent and nobody will remember the good things that he has done only the bad things. So sad. | |
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DarlingDiana said: Rhondab said: 
Know your history before you say stupid stuff..... I do know my history, that's why I know Malcom X was a racist. He hated white people, and called us crackers. That's racist. It kills me when people label Malcolm as a racist. Especially when he lived during one of the most racist periods in American history. | |
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wonder505 said: DarlingDiana said: LOL, all I can do is laugh after the many comments made about MJ in this thread. People need to learn about MJ before passing judgement. I flip the tables round and direct the negativity onto Malcom C, and suddenly everyone hits the roff. Think about it. [Edited 4/22/06 18:06pm] Umm, you flipped the tables by making an inaccurate and false statement about Malcolm X by which I corrected by stating a historical fact, for which you obviously knew nothing about. If you are going to flip tables, flip it with the truth and not with false statements for the sake of detering negativity towards someone else. If you feel people made comments about MJ that are not right, then you reply with the truth, that's all. She's just trying to save face. Its silly to "flip tables" on Malcolm because she doesn't like what's being said about MJ. | |
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Truthfully,I don't think Malcolm would have liked Prince or Michael Jackson.He would have called them "sellouts" and would have cited several reasons for feeling this way...
***Michael---the skin bleachings,the plastic surgery,the fact that he got married twice,both times to a white woman. ***Prince---downplayed his "blackness" early in his career,had a White woman portray his mother in "Purple Rain",dated mostly non-Black women,had a mostly White band at the height of his popularity. No doubt,he probably would have also had problems with many of the other "crossover" Black artists (Lionel Richie,Tina Turner,Whitney Houston,Donna Summer,etc). | |
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DavidEye said: Truthfully,I don't think Malcolm would have liked Prince or Michael Jackson.He would have called them "sellouts" and would have cited several reasons for feeling this way...
***Michael---the skin bleachings,the plastic surgery,the fact that he got married twice,both times to a white woman. ***Prince---downplayed his "blackness" early in his career,had a White woman portray his mother in "Purple Rain",dated mostly non-Black women,had a mostly White band at the height of his popularity. No doubt,he probably would have also had problems with many of the other "crossover" Black artists (Lionel Richie,Tina Turner,Whitney Houston,Donna Summer,etc). You believe that Michael actually bleached his skin? What makes you think he did? | |
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Krytonite said: DavidEye said: Truthfully,I don't think Malcolm would have liked Prince or Michael Jackson.He would have called them "sellouts" and would have cited several reasons for feeling this way...
***Michael---the skin bleachings,the plastic surgery,the fact that he got married twice,both times to a white woman. ***Prince---downplayed his "blackness" early in his career,had a White woman portray his mother in "Purple Rain",dated mostly non-Black women,had a mostly White band at the height of his popularity. No doubt,he probably would have also had problems with many of the other "crossover" Black artists (Lionel Richie,Tina Turner,Whitney Houston,Donna Summer,etc). You believe that Michael actually bleached his skin? What makes you think he did? Oh come on...the guy is "whiter" than most White people
Yeah,I know he says he has that disease,but I really think he purposely "altered" his skin color,some way or another. | |
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lilgish said: What did he think about Elivs?
...or even better: what would Malcolm think of white rap arists or white boybands in general? | |
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StoneCrib said: DarlingDiana said: LOL, all I can do is laugh after the many comments made about MJ in this thread. People need to learn about MJ before passing judgement. I flip the tables round and direct the negativity onto Malcom C, and suddenly everyone hits the roff. Think about it. [Edited 4/22/06 18:06pm] So let's see...He hates his face so he destroys it trying to look like a white Disney cartoon character along with his penchant for little white boys. Yeah, well, that just about sums up MJ. Any questions? No? Ok. Next! CORRECTION: MJ looks like THIS character in DC Comics  | |
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catpark said: StoneCrib said: Oh, THAT'S an easy 1 - There's only ONE answer for that question:
I can even here Malcolm's speech about MJ: MALCOLM X ON MICHAEL JACKSON (In that haunting Malcolm X voice of his): Never has there ever been a more embarrassing "so-called Negro" such as this man. He's captivated by the white man's beauty and the white man's vices and the white man's women. His face alone is a disgrace to Africa and every African that died for him to have the right to be who he wants to be. Sadly he IS who wants to be. He sings for the white man. He dances for the white man. He wants to BE the white man. Yes. That same white man that enslaved our people and that continue to oppress our people to this very day. Yes. Our people. His people...or what he USED to claim as HIS people. Young Mr. Jackson needs to recognize the beauty of being black and all that is Black. Unfortunately...I say unfortunately, he no longer even recognizes himself.   That was good and so true!
And the sad thing is he would rather have white kids, lie and claim them to be his own. WTF? Michael Jackson embodies everything that is WRONG when you brainwash a people and make them hate themselves. | |
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DarlingDiana said: Who cares?
Malcom X is a racist. As opposed to those Malcolm was speaking about? | |
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DavidEye said: Truthfully,I don't think Malcolm would have liked Prince or Michael Jackson.He would have called them "sellouts" and would have cited several reasons for feeling this way...
***Michael---the skin bleachings,the plastic surgery,the fact that he got married twice,both times to a white woman. ***Prince---downplayed his "blackness" early in his career,had a White woman portray his mother in "Purple Rain",dated mostly non-Black women,had a mostly White band at the height of his popularity. No doubt,he probably would have also had problems with many of the other "crossover" Black artists (Lionel Richie,Tina Turner,Whitney Houston,Donna Summer,etc). Imagine Malcolm X's speech on the current crisis of Whitney Houston. THAT would have been CLASSIC (especially the damage Clive Davis has done in trying to downplay Whitney's background in gospel music at that!!!). | |
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wonder505 said: DarlingDiana said: I do know my history, that's why I know Malcom X was a racist. He hated white people, and called us crackers. That's racist. Actually you are ignorant of your history because if you knew your history, you would know that Malcolm X changed his perception on whites after his visit to Mecca, which caused a major friction between him and the Nation of Islam and served as one of a multitude of factors that led to his death. Why don't you LEARN about someone before you pass judgements. [Edited 4/22/06 8:57am] Why respond to these people who do NOT know what the hell they are talking about? | |
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Stax said: babynoz said: I think it's been established that we're talking Malcolm post-Mecca. then I question whether he would of spoke of MJ in terms of black v. white Yes, I question the exact same thing. If it was before Mecca, then yes he was racist and hated most white people. If after, then the comments made about MJ are wrong! Malcolm learned to respect all people regardless of their colour. [Edited 4/24/06 9:37am] | |
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StoneCrib said: SpecialEd said: Yeah Malcolm X was a horrible racist. His mother was the product of white men raping black grandmother and his father was murdered by whites. Then he had the never to call whites "crackers", what a terrible, terrible man he was.  Ed always brings the cannon to the cap gun party. Those of you that value your dome...duck. Lol..... | |
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I think most of us on here need to read Malcolm's autobiography first before passing judgement on what he would or wouldn't have said about certain artists.
"The Autobiography of Malcolm X" by Alex Haley is the greatest book I have ever read. I just wish more people, especially my people, African Americans would turn off the dummy tube watching 50 cent and looking at women shake their naked behinds on BET and pick this book up and learn something about their history. Its a shame that kids nowadays only know who Martin Luther King, Jr. is...if that and don't even know who El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz is..or had a clue to what he stood up for and what he died for. [Edited 4/24/06 10:14am] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Scrapluv said: DarlingDiana said: I do know my history, that's why I know Malcom X was a racist. He hated white people, and called us crackers. That's racist. It kills me when people label Malcolm as a racist. Especially when he lived during one of the most racist periods in American history. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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TonyVanDam said: lilgish said: What did he think about Elivs?
...or even better: what would Malcolm think of white rap arists or white boybands in general? Oh he'd DOG out Eminem. Should I make up a Maclom speech for that occasion? MALCOLM X ON EMINEM: And then we have Eminem. The bastard son of Hip Hop and a trailer park somewhere in the Midwest. An outcast in the midst of outcasts. How did we let THIS happen? The man is reaping the rewards of a music genre created and sustained by the great people of Africa. The slap to our collective faces is that he profits more than some of our own from our own creation. But alas, this is the way it's always been for us, hasn't it? His speeches of him being subjected to "hard times" is a complete joke and yet another painful slap in the face of our people, for we all know that all he has to do is let his hair grow out, put on an Armani suit, and waltz into a wall street office and get hired on the spot. Oh, woe is Eminem and his hard life as a white man in America. We Africans cry a thousand rivers equal to the Nile for you, Mr. White Rapper. Oh, and Mr. Eminem, if you didn't know who "I" was...Let me introduce myself: Hi, my name is The REAL Slim Shady...And I've already stood up. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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Graycap23 said: catpark said: That was good and so true!
And the sad thing is he would rather have white kids, lie and claim them to be his own. WTF? Michael Jackson embodies everything that is WRONG when you brainwash a people and make them hate themselves. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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StoneCrib said: TonyVanDam said: ...or even better: what would Malcolm think of white rap arists or white boybands in general? Oh he'd DOG out Eminem. Should I make up a Maclom speech for that occasion? MALCOLM X ON EMINEM: And then we have Eminem. The bastard son of Hip Hop and a trailer park somewhere in the Midwest. An outcast in the midst of outcasts. How did we let THIS happen? The man is reaping the rewards of a music genre created and sustained by the great people of Africa. The slap to our collective faces is that he profits more than some of our own from our own creation. But alas, this is the way it's always been for us, hasn't it? His speeches of him being subjected to "hard times" is a complete joke and yet another painful slap in the face of our people, for we all know that all he has to do is let his hair grow out, put on an Armani suit, and waltz into a wall street office and get hired on the spot. Oh, woe is Eminem and his hard life as a white man in America. We Africans cry a thousand rivers equal to the Nile for you, Mr. White Rapper. Oh, and Mr. Eminem, if you didn't know who "I" was...Let me introduce myself: Hi, my name is The REAL Slim Shady...And I've already stood up. U.....have missed your calling! | |
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DarlingDiana said: Who cares?
Malcom X is a racist. Bullshit! Read his fucking book! There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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TonyVanDam said: Yes, THIS is a tough question even for me. But what do you think?
 He'd have hated Fiddy Cent and gangsta rap - in fact modern hip hop in general. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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