MikeMatronik said:

That may be true, but that's not his point. You say that as if somehow that makes his point mute. The shit is still fucked up

MikeMatronik said:

Which says more about you than we ever could.

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Believe me...you never could!

I'm always judged...guess it's time to annoy the ones who judge me!
[Edited 4/11/06 16:46pm]

dirtyman2005 said:

It may be true that this thread was originally intended to discuss the sadness of a innocent man's death, but some people's comments brought to a light a whole other issue that could not go unchecked. And if u pay close attention it's not about Proof's lifestyle. Cool it.

Most of yall can kiss my ass. Suppose you were never into prince's music - and then you heard songs like "Face Down." And then prince got shot & killed - would you be saying the same thang? "Well look at his lyrics, look at what lifestyle he portrayed. He got what was coming to him."

People need to fuckin check themselves. Here in Detroit, we're all mourning the loss of Deshaun's life here. This shit is fucked up. REST IN PEACE DESHAUN. Deshaun was one of the ONLY people in Detroit trying to SQUASH BEEFS. Longstanding ones. One of, if not the very last things he ever recorded to tape was a collaboration with Detroit's own Twiztid -- who of course is on the Psychopathic label who has had a longtime feud with Marshall and his camp. The song will be on the upcoming new Twiztid album so check for that, Proof fans.

I didn't know the cat personally, like being a friend of his or whatever, but he's always been around, I know people who knew him and everyone's really been affected by this. It prolly was over something stupid - mufuckers really believe who they are when coming out of a club at 4 in the morning. Damn.

MikeMatronik said:

Oh, I see, you ONLY feel sorry for his innocent family...but not HIM...because of course he was somehow complicit in his death, he had CLEARLY done something - glorified violence - that made him deserving of death.

So by your logic then Al Pacino deserves to die violently and we shouldn't feel anything for him if did, because he made movies that glorify violence like "Scarface" and the "Godfather" series.

After all, violence generates violence.

Right?

darkstranger521 said:

I don't even recall D12 ever having guns or violence in their videos.

I wonder if Matisyahu gets gunned down, will some of these folks be saying the same thing?

song: "Forgive Me"
artist: PROOF

[Proof]
Barely raised by my dysfunctional fam
Here I stand as a dysfunctional man
Quick-tempered, short-fused, and pissed at God
Demons pullin at my soul 'til it's ripped apart
Secret's out momma that fire I started it
Fuck the fireman logic of the closet by the wire shit
What's positive about a father that bust nuts then wussed up
And a momma that don't show her son enough love
Shit, that's why I run from my first son
And force these chickenhead bitches to get abortions
I'm married to game, my mistress is fame
My girl Paq the closest, she know I ain't gon' change
Go insane in a world evil as ours
I done shot at houses, people and cars
The deeper the scars, the worst is the history
God you ain't gotta forgive me, just don't forget me, you hear me?

[Chorus: 50 Cent]
Lord forgive me, for I've sinned
Over and over again just to stay, on top
I recall memories, filled, with sin
Over and over again.. and again

[Proof]
And most importantly I'm tryin to support my seeds
Can't seem to get away from them courtin fees
Embroidery, on my hood across my heart disorderly
Breakin in houses of people who ain't got more than me
Accordingly, I move in error
Gotta face the fact though I can't fool this mirror
Neglected my daughter and tryin to blame on how I was brought up
like I'm a product of this environment, why ain't I shot up?
Got up today like "Why you let me breathe again?"
And with each breath I feel death is creepin in
Thinkin sinners are winners and I'ma finish last
My pen and pad record my life as each minute pass
Passin minutes, I shook sin and shook drugs
I did right by you but still you took Bugz
Then caught me in adultery, fought me
for not knowin through the dark streets you walked me, talked to me

[Chorus]

[Proof]
It's the bliss that's a rush so rush my wrists in the cuffs
It's like a fight for yo' attention and love
Speakin of Bugz, give me a hint from above
If he not you know I wanna be sent when I'm done
Kid outta wedlock so my lady's frontin
I love Em, cause he gave me somethin
A positive anything is better than a negative nothin
I was on the edge of death ready to jump in
It's hard when you can't find love anywhere
And just because the reverend listen, don't mean he care
Pops on crack with a sufferin past
I dream in black and white, the world color me bad
Other than sad, painful and stress
Life is good with the webs that, tangle with death
Control the border, control the school
I have sinned amongst men and my soul is yours, yours

RIP Proof. We'll miss you man.

oh my god!!!


I know Em is hurtin!!!!

Eminem is hiding in his mansion, as we speak.

smokeverbs said:

I knew you'd know the score.

While we are all sitting safely at home or wherever behind our computers offering our opinions and what not. The fact of the matter remains that senseless violence is alive, well and steadily making 'mourning' an American pasttime.

Fuck the bullshit, the blame and what we feel about it!! It's about fucking time WE ALL make a change!!

eeky said:

Yeah. This all went down at the Triple C's on E 8 Mile. St Andrews Hall is downtown.

Romera said:

Do u live in Englewood?

Who got the idea that Proof promoted violence in any way?

Im shocked at some of the posts that Ive read on this thread. Some of you have really shown your asses.

a threa dcan get turned over and over in this place... RIP Proof, u cutie.

dreamfactory313 said:

I can't believe what I'm seeing in here either. The prejudice and stereotypical type stuff I'm reading here is disgusting. Proof was a man first and foremost with a family. He didn't deserve what happened to him. Like what dreamfactory313 said, some asses are being exposed like a motherfucker up in here.

smokeverbs said:

GREAT POINT, great post

RIP Proof

purplecam said:

Im shocked too. I didnt realise that some Prince fans could be so so ignorant.

kisscamille said:

[Edited 4/12/06 2:02am]

Romera said:

[Edited 4/12/06 2:03am]

purplecam said:

Equally, I think some of the people who haven't liked the comments in here have self appointed themselves on the side of "right".

The fact is, none of us know what Proof was about. What we hear on CD only scratches the surface.

There is a good chance that he was an innocent party, caught up in a fight. But there is also a chance it could have been a grudge that all too often staines the rap community.

Its not right for someone to come here and state that he was shot down as part of a grudge, as if it is fact.

Equally, its not fair to condemn those posts for being factually wrong or accusing those who posted as being ignorant, simply because you do not agree.

It will all come out in the wash in time.

In the meantime, I hope Proof rests in peace.

Well, according to the news this morning, Proof fired the first shot...so there you go.

dreamfactory313 said:

Yes sir. I sure do.

purplecam said:

Where have you guys been? This shit has happened way more than once on the Org.

kisscamille said:[quote]

FunkMistress said:

You can't possibly believe your own words, do you?? This guy lived a certain lifestyle and that's why he got shot. You should take your nonsense somewhere else and stop sticking up for thugs like this.[/quote]



You are truly pathetic. This guy is dead because some idiot was jealous, not because of the lifestyle he lived. Proof was not in THAT lifestyle anymore, he was simply hanging out with friends. You need to grow up!


Smooches;)
[Edited 4/12/06 5:45am]

GangstaFam said:

No, it wasn't St. Andrew's. It was a club on 8 Mile and Gratiot



Smooches;)